2011 NASCAR Thread

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MÜLE_9242;5313440
You have to take into account the fact that Keselowski was in position late in the race for a top-5, while Edwards was several laps down. That is why Edwards will never get my respect, ever.
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Brad didn't even do anything to Carl early in the race. Carl came down and touched Brad's right front.
 
Not to mention, you could see Edwards trying to wreck BK on the front stretch for a few laps before he pulled it off. His actions were exactly as bad as portrayed. That's not boys have at it, that's just stupid. He should have had 5 race ban and or lost all of his points. He will never have my respect either. Two faced sponsor plugging jack-wagon.

Don't know where that all came from, I just wanted to bash Edwards a bit. That's what we're doing right? :lol:

Edit: I kind of am, but just to keep this going, I'd rather see him win than Edwards. That said, he needs to tighten up his Cup game, quit trying to do everything well, and just focus on the big prize, maybe we wouldn't have Mr. fivetime if he would stick to one seat. As it stands though, there will always be a cup driver to fill his role in the lower tiers if he is absent.

Side note: How funny would it be if Raikkonen comes in and starts winning all of KB bread and butter truck and Nationwide races. Solve the problem for us :lol:
 
MÜLE_9242;5313440
You have to take into account the fact that Keselowski was in position late in the race for a top-5, while Edwards was several laps down. That is why Edwards will never get my respect, ever.
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No retaliating if the driver is in the top 5?
No retaliating with 10 laps to go?
No retaliating during any race of the chase?
No retaliating in the first 50 laps?
No retaliating 1 month after the initial incident?
No retaliating if you're a lap down?

Who gets to make up these rules?
It's absolutely unrealistic to think NASCAR could/would ever compile a complete list of occasions when it is or isn't okay to pay people back; which is my point entirely.

Carl was laps down because of Brad; thus the retaliation. (From his point of view, I can't/don't remember the details of what happened)
So unless we're going to add stipulations to when, where, why and how you're allowed to pay people back, then we have to assume everything is fair game. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime, type of thing.
 
I saw on ESPN this morning that Nascar gave the two of them probation for their pit road actions, not for what happened on the track. It's still "Have at it boys" but only on the track. JJ was quoted as saying the drivers need to know the line so they can toe it but not cross it. It appears that the line is the yellow line on the bottom of the track.
 
Adrenaline
No retaliating if the driver is in the top 5?
No retaliating with 10 laps to go?
No retaliating during any race of the chase?
No retaliating in the first 50 laps?
No retaliating 1 month after the initial incident?
No retaliating if you're a lap down?

Who gets to make up these rules?
It's absolutely unrealistic to think NASCAR could/would ever compile a complete list of occasions when it is or isn't okay to pay people back; which is my point entirely.

Carl was laps down because of Brad; thus the retaliation. (From his point of view, I can't/don't remember the details of what happened)
So unless we're going to add stipulations to when, where, why and how you're allowed to pay people back, then we have to assume everything is fair game. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime, type of thing.
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Cale
Brad didn't even do anything to Carl early in the race. Carl came down and touched Brad's right front.
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Edwards is an idiot.
 
R1600Turbo
Yeah, and the worst part was a crew member got hit by a flying spring from Bowyers car. Crazy ride he took though.
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Did you see Logano's car? Bowyer's front tire was at the back of his seat.
 
MÜLE_9242;5315759
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Cale
Brad didn't even do anything to Carl early in the race. Carl came down and touched Brad's right front.
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Edwards is an idiot.
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Like I said, who gets to make up these rules? I'm fully willing to admit the first incident at this track, was Carl's fault. But on lap 41, Brad had no reason to push the issue. We constantly hear about drivers respecting each other, giving each other room in the early laps. I don't expect Brad to just back out of the throttle and let Edwards go, but I can also understand why Carl would expect a little more leeway than that. Then combine it with all of their history, and anyone can see why Edwards would be frustrated enough to take him out... Daytona for example.

Those 2 have had more incidents than I can count, both in sprint cup and nationwide. It's no secret that Brad hasn't made a lot of friends on track. If you want to play rough, you don't get to play the victim when people return the favor. Fans shouldn't either, but we're all biased towards certain drivers.

My personal opinion on the matter, is that anytime these 2 get into each other, it's justified by something they did to each other previously. I'm a fan of Edwards, but if in tomorrow's race, Brad takes him out, you won't hear me complain, I'll just chalk it up to their rivalry. They both openly dislike the other and that will never fully disappear. So to ever hold any single incident against the other driver, is just being biased. They've reached the point, where they can never really go back. Either one can pay back the other at any time, and it'll never be unjustified.

Newman and Montoya, Harvick and Busch fall into the same category.
No matter what happens between either of the 6 drivers mentioned, or which one of them I like or dislike, any future wreck between them will just be considered the side effects of racing with rivals. Just my .02.
 


That was one of the scariest looking wrecks I have seen. Glad everyone is ok. Safer Barrier did it's job. Any news on the predicted weather for the Cup Race? Will it be dry?
 
Hopefully they can get the race in today because the national weather service shows that area getting rain all week long.
 
Who else thinks that Kyle Busch keeps nearly driving (pun unavoidable) you away? No way he could have gone from 43rd to 4th in a 400 lap race at Dover unless he goes all out starting lap 1. No offence to him and his fans.
 
Stormtrooper217
Who else thinks that Kyle Busch keeps nearly driving (pun unavoidable) you away? No way he could have gone from 43rd to 4th in a 400 lap race at Dover unless he goes all out starting lap 1. No offence to him and his fans.
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I'm not sure I understand the question, or how it would offend his fans.
Kyle drives the **** out of his car every lap. I don't think I've ever seen him 'conserve' or be patient. That's why I don't really consider him a championship contender yet. Sure this year is looking up and he's made improvement as he matures as a driver and as a human in general (He's only 20 something right?) he's getting closer. But every week we still see him be so aggressive, that his luck is bound to run out eventually. He drives like he wants to lead every lap and win every race. A lot of people don't like him, I'm not a huge fan myself, but to not respect him for his driving skills(isolated) is hard to do.
 
Stormtrooper217
Who else thinks that Kyle Busch keeps nearly driving (pun unavoidable) you away? No way he could have gone from 43rd to 4th in a 400 lap race at Dover unless he goes all out starting lap 1. No offence to him and his fans.
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Thats just Kyle. I can recall two Nationwide races where he got penalised and even went a lap down and ended coming all the way back to win. He even started dead last in the Truck series race at Bristol Last year and won the race. Kyle just drives his heart out every lap.
 
So, yeah, finally saw the Darlington race. They should have tossed both of those idiots out of the next few races. None of this sissy probation crap. If those two want to do stuff that can get each other seriously hurt (driving down the entire track to put someone into the outside wall, stopping in the middle of pitlane so you can go take swings at each other, pushing cars out of the way instead of driving around them), they don't need to be doing it 900 horsepower cars that weigh 3600 pounds.

And if NASCAR wants keep this crap from happening, they need to stop throwing cautions that are so transparently designed to bunch the field back up.
 
OH YES!

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MrMulsanne


That was one of the scariest looking wrecks I have seen. Glad everyone is ok. Safer Barrier did it's job. Any news on the predicted weather for the Cup Race? Will it be dry?
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Reminds me of GT5.
 
Wait, wasn't that 15 one of the Vision Racing Trucks?(Formally, Billy Billew Motorsports) I'm assuming KBM has now aquired that number?


Anyhow, can't wait to see it in the flesh.
 
Bad news about Bayne.

Jayski.com
No racing for Bayne this weekend:
Roush Fenway and the Wood Brothers have decided to withhold Trevor Bayne from NASCAR competition this weekend, including Sunday's Nationwide Series race at Iowa Speedway and Saturday night's Sprint All-Star Race at Charlotte Motor Speedway. "Although we would like for Trevor to be on the track this weekend, we want to make sure that he is fully back to prime condition before he goes out to compete with the best drivers in the world," said Roush Fenway president Steve Newmark. "He has been undergoing tests and out of his routine for almost a month now. With that disruption in his schedule, he has not been able to take part in our daily training activities and he's going to need a little more time to get acclimated to the strenuous demands of a NASCAR racing schedule," added Newmark. "Obviously we would love to have him back out on the track, but we are not prepared to do that until we are sure that he's 100 percent. His symptoms have improved tremendously, but we're still not all the way back to where we want to be."
"We knew all along that there was not a timetable for his return," said Eddie Wood, co-owner of Wood Brothers Racing. "We knew it would be a process and we continue to work towards his return. Trevor really wants to be back, and we remain hopeful that we'll have him competing again soon." Neither the Roush Fenway #16 Nationwide Series entry, nor the Wood Brothers #21 Sprint Cup entry, will participate in the NASCAR races this weekend. The Wood Brothers, however, do intend to participate in the Pit Crew Challenge this evening
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At least he is locked into next year already.
 
R1600Turbo
Here's Kimi Raikkonen's livery for this weekend's Truck race for those that will be looking out for him:

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Too bad it wasn't a perk in Call of Duty :lol:.

Dang. Bayne isn't going to be in the All-Star race...
 

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