2012 European Grand Prix

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DaxCobra
Says the guy who, even if Vettel does really crappy, still says "Vettel man of the day".
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Never did that. You confuse me with someone else or simply make stupid assumptions, as I am German. I said hunderd times already I am not only rooting for him and am glad to admit that Alonso is without a doubt a better racing driver. So cut your BS.

hornet_burnout
Yes, and one wonders how opinions would vary if it had been with Vettel...
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Here applies the same as above.
 
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So, considering his latest grid positions, and adding a 10 place penalty, where do you think Vergne will be starting from? 3rd in the old straight start/finish line grid? :D
 
That... was... bloody hell, I don't even know what to say :lol:

Alonso! Man of the day no doubt, and Schumacher finally finishes in the podium! Schumacher... on the podium again.

Christ, dear Christ... Valencia! Of all the tracks someone from 11th would win in! It had to be this track. Oh lord that was one of the best (if not, the best) race all year.
 
"Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1
Pastor Maldonado gets 20-second time penalty, in lieu of drive through, for causing collision with Lewis Hamilton"

Ian Parkes ‏@ianparkesf1
And now a 20secs penalty for @pastomaldo. Stewards say he "failed to rejoin the track in a safe manner".
 
Alex p.
Never did that. You confuse me with someone else or simply make stupid assumptions, as I am German. I said hunderd times already I am not only rooting for him and am glad to admit that Alonso is without a doubt a better racing driver. So cut your BS.
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Maybe it wasn't you then, I apologise. Someone who has a similar name.... Didn't even realise you were german...
 
PeterJB
Don't get me wrong, his driving has been excellent. But if others didn't make so many mistakes or have so much bad luck it probably wouldn't look as great.
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Not making mistakes is also what makes a champion, not just driving quickly.

Edit: I mean, Alonso has been in the points for 20 straight F1 races now. The second best driver is Rosberg with six.
 
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F1 is so disappointing now, the tyres may make it more interesting but when someone who you support has their race ruined because of tyre issues it is so frustrating. The winner should be the fastest driver not the fastest without wearing out their tyres and Mclaren certainly made up for that 2.9 second pit stop didn't they?

Alex p.
And people still refusing to look at the SLOW-MO footage and put off their bias towards Lewis Hamilton...
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Maldonado should have backed out, Lewis was on the racing line and Pastor rejoined the track heading straight towards Hamilton. He should have knew better though, Pastor's tyres where clearly better and he is a psycho.

hornet_burnout
"Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1
Pastor Maldonado gets 20-second time penalty, in lieu of drive through, for causing collision with Lewis Hamilton"

Ian Parkes ‏@ianparkesf1
And now a 20secs penalty for @pastomaldo. Stewards say he "failed to rejoin the track in a safe manner".
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So instead of scoring 1 point he scores 0, not really a punishment.
 
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It's fun to see a daft mistake from a guy with no history of it that resulted in two punctures being punished with gridslots, but a psychotic move that resulted in another guy getting airborne from a guy who's already received two penalties in two years for deliberately smashing into other cars is punished with a 20s race penalty.

Mental. Which was the more dangerous offence and who is the more dangerous driver?

Alex p.
And people still refusing to look at the SLOW-MO footage and put off their bias towards Lewis Hamilton...
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Yes. Yes, it's bias towards Hamilton to suggest he should have raced smarter and not put himself in a position to be smashed into.

You can watch all the slowmo you want. It'll show you, really slowly, Badgift leaving the track and rejoining it to ram into Hamilton's sidepod.

Maldonado needs removing from the sport before he kills someone else.
 
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DaxCobra
Maybe it wasn't you then, I apologise. Someone who has a similar name.... Didn't even realise you were german...
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Pretty sure you mean "Alex", simply Alex, yes, I believe it was him, and I know for a fact that I basically called him a biased troll for that.

TyrrellRacing
You're looking for astrosdude.
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Could have also been him. I know there are multiple Vettel fanboys.

Famine
Yes. Yes, it's bias towards Hamilton to suggest he should have raced smarter and not put himself in a position to be smashed into.

You can watch all the slowmo you want. It'll show you, really slowly, Badgift leaving the track and rejoining it to ram into Hamilton's sidepod.
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Famine you're making me laugh. Well, he did ram Hamis sidepot because Ham turned in on him, Maldo had nowhere to go, Hamilton did, to his right, there was still plenty of space. I'm stating the obvious, can't be bothered to bother with you any more.

Peasantslayer
Maldonado should have backed out, Lewis was on the racing line and Pastor rejoined the track heading straight towards Hamilton. He should have knew better though, Pastor's tyres where clearly better and he is a psycho.
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:lol: Yeah kinda true. Thing is, Maldo was riding the curb because Ham pushed him there, so being on the curb he had basically no real control of his car, that's how I understand it at least. Why would he choose to ram Ham? (beside being a psycho :lol:)
 
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hornet_burnout
"Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1
Pastor Maldonado gets 20-second time penalty, in lieu of drive through, for causing collision with Lewis Hamilton"
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That's not much, considering Vergne got a lot more for a similar incident.
 
hornet_burnout
So, considering his latest grid positions, and adding a 10 place penalty, where do you think Vergne will be starting from? 3rd in the old straight start/finish line grid? :D
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I'd deduct the positions that you can in the next race and use what's left over for the race after that until all the penalty is used up. :crazy:
 
So instead of Ginsters getting one point he gets 0. WOW WHAT A PENALTY, DEAL THE PAIN FIA!!!
 
Tired Tyres
I'd deduct the positions that you can in the next race and use what's left over for the race after that until all the penalty is used up. :crazy:
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DaxCobra
So instead of Ginsters getting one point he gets 0. WOW WHAT A PENALTY, DEAL THE PAIN FIA!!!
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Yes... no point in this GP will look terrible on his "resume": 0-0-4-0-25-0-0-0 instead of 0-0-4-0-25-0-0-1


mattythedog
Should've got a grid drop a Silverstone in my opinion...
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He deserves more than a grid drop, this isn't the 1st time something like this has happened!
 
If the reason is "failing to rejoin track safely" and thus causing a collision isn't it seriously enough for a grid penalty? Oh, right... because "money". I keep forgetting.

Meanwhile in Venezuela unbiased press will be presenting their national hero and again show how the entire world plots against them and tries to put them down...
 
gorsad
This, Schumi got one in Catalunya, why can't Maldonado get one?
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At least his wasn't intentional, Pastor is the only driver that I have seen intentionally ramming people. He rammed Perez in Monaco and Hamilton, at least when Hamilton hit people last year he was merely trying to squeeze them out instead of aiming his car at them.
 
Right. You can't expect this 'punishment' to have effect to really improve his behaviour at all in the future.
 
Alex p.
Famine you're making me laugh. Well, he did ram Hamis sidepot because Ham turned in on him, Maldo had nowhere to go, Hamilton did, to his right, there was still plenty of space. I'm stating the obvious, can't be bothered to bother with you any more.



Could have also been him. I know there are multiple Vettel fanboys.
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How is it hard to grasp that if you are off-track and coming back on-track, YOU are the one whose responsibility it is to get back on safely? Hamilton has absolutely NO responsibility to adjust his line for him to move back on. It's simple. You could argue etiquette and all that, but this is a race for points and if Hamilton wasn't going to give up the position on entry to the corner then he sure as hell wasn't going to give it up at that stage to a driver who was off track and made no attempt to safely re-enter the track.
 
Alex p.
Well, he did ram Hamis sidepot because Ham turned in on him, Maldo had nowhere to go, Hamilton did, to his right, there was still plenty of space.
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Apart from the massive section of run off area.
 
Alex p.
Never did that. You confuse me with someone else or simply make stupid assumptions, as I am German. I said hunderd times already I am not only rooting for him and am glad to admit that Alonso is without a doubt a better racing driver. So cut your BS.



Here applies the same as above.
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I said and reiterate that some opinions would be a lot different if it was Vettel.
 
hornet_burnout
I said and reiterate that some opinions would be a lot different if it was Vettel.
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I say that is not true. Becaue I am no Vettel fanboy, sorry to disappoint you. Lol, I think I get it now, if you mean by "some" others, well, that's fine, probably true. But it certainly does not apply to me.

dhandes
Apart from the massive section of run off area.
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You, and other agrressive, butt hurt English/British Hamilton supportes fail to see the big picture. Psychology. You realize Maldo feared of "cutting" the track? Yes, after that he could leave Ham through, but he misjudged a situation and at that time he was already riding on the curb, with no real control of the car. It's not all that easy when you sit in the car. Also I'm not saying it's all Hamiltons fault, Maldo was also simply too aggressive and naive, as so often, but the same applies to Hamilton and he showed in that situation.
 
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Alex p.
Famine you're making me laugh. Well, he did ram Hamis sidepot because Ham turned in on him, Maldo had nowhere to go, Hamilton did, to his right, there was still plenty of space.
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Maldonado had EIGHTY FEET of run off to go to and that's exactly where he should have gone - he'd already driven completely off the track... He drove off the track, rejoined it and drove straight into the side of another car. Everyone blames him, except himself. Why are you blaming the other car and talking about other people being biased?

Maldonado is incredibly dangerous. He's driven into two cars on purpose in two years. Today he's driven off the track and rather than using the run off as he should have done, he's red-misted straight back onto the track and drove into the side of a guy, launching him through the air. Oh, and then, without a front wing, he blocked Schumacher for two corners. Remind you of any incidents recently?

He needs his licence revoking for a race before he kills someone.
 
To be fair, it appeared that the curb hindered his steering when he re-entered the track, but he should have taken the run off in the first place rather than coming back on like he did.
 

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