2015 Formula 1 Shell Belgian Grand Prix

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niky
Big disappointment for Ferrari. What the hell happened there?
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I wonder if the quick debrief from Kimi's retirement led to Ferrari turning something down/off on Vettel's car? Didn't see his lap though, could just have been an uncharacteristic mistake.
 
TenEightyOne
I wonder if the quick debrief from Kimi's retirement led to Ferrari turning something down/off on Vettel's car? Didn't see his lap though, could just have been an uncharacteristic mistake.
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Maybe. I've got to go scrounge up the live timing records to see for myself.


Tired Tyres
The battle for 3rd place should be interesting.
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Without the quick starting Ferraris in second row... that's probably all we can hope for.
 
What an impact:

Terrible world feed directing by FOM to cut out from the onboard.

Compared to Burtis crash, the tyre barriers actually had the belts on which meant the driver wasn't in a huge pile of tyres and there was an asphalt runoff area that helped slow the car down.
 
ukfan758
Terrible world feed directing by FOM to cut out from the onboard.
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I don't think it really matters. When a car goes off at Blanchimont like that, there is only one way that it can end: poorly. Especially when you have an amateur like Daniel de Jong - who really has no business being in GP2 - racing an erratic driver like Pierre Gasly. At least with the likes of Sergio Canamasas you know what you're getting into before you try to pass; with Gasly, you'll either get textbook wheel-to-wheel precision racing, or you'll get up close and personal with the tyre bundles, and you'll never know for certain until you're committed to the move.

And when drivers have huge accidents like that, most broadcasters have a policy of not showing an accident until the driver's condition is confirmed.
 
@Furinkazen has posted the non-cutaway version in Motorsport WTF (post link).

Definitely shades of Burti .vs. Irvine. Good to see that the car didn't "submarine" as Burti's did ...and this time the other driver didn't have to organise his own towing operation to help hapless marshalls retrieve the car.
 
prisonermonkeys
And when drivers have huge accidents like that, most broadcasters have a policy of not showing an accident until the driver's condition is confirmed.
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I never knew that, hence probably why they cut out. Here in the states I am guessing that we don't have such laws since they show replays even when the condition of the driver is unknown or unfortunately even dead (replays were shown of Dale Earnhardt and Dan Wheldon's accident post announcement on national news and television unedited). I would just look away.
 
This is what happens when you take Sennas words a bit to close to heart. Sometimes the gap that exists, is a shortcut to the tire wall.
 
I'm pretty sure they didn't cut away from the onboard with Max Verstappen's accident at Monaco.
 
Jann's had a massive crash of his own in GP3 at Spa - and is it my imagination or is his car dropping oil before it happens?

 
Hard to call it but it could have been the bargeboard causing the rooster tail effect.

Maybe a partial failure of suspension or start of puncture caused the ride height to lower, therefore bargeboard into tarmac and loss of grip.

EDIT: The more times I watch it, the more it looks like oil but at least no-one was hurt.
 
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Looks like the car was bottoming out, since it seems to start at the bottom of eau rouge. Hard to tell for sure though. Too bad. :(
 
ukfan758
I never knew that, hence probably why they cut out. Here in the states I am guessing that we don't have such laws since they show replays even when the condition of the driver is unknown or unfortunately even dead (replays were shown of Dale Earnhardt and Dan Wheldon's accident post announcement on national news and television unedited). I would just look away.
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It's not a law, but rather a policy of the broadcaster.
 
ukfan758
Didn't one of the Ferrari drivers in 2013 have an injury accident in practice/qualifying at the same corner?
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There are no hard-and-fast rules, no joke intended. Normally if a driver puts their visor up or if the broadcaster hears the "I'm okay" radio message then it's clear that it should be "safe" to show footage of the scene and replays of the accident.

Sometimes however it just isn't that clear and, unavoidable live footage aside, replays and close-ups are avoided until the condition of the driver is known or until they've been made safe.
 
TenEightyOne
There are no hard-and-fast rules, no joke intended. Normally if a driver puts their visor up or if the broadcaster hears the "I'm okay" radio message then it's clear that it should be "safe" to show footage of the scene and replays of the accident.

Sometimes however it just isn't that clear and, unavoidable live footage aside, replays and close-ups are avoided until the condition of the driver is known or until they've been made safe.
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Ah, thanks everyone for the explanations.
 

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