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It's like I'm watching the Twilight saga. Stupid artificial sparkling.
 
Kvyat 19th. While his less experienced and theprically slower new teammate Sainz got Q2 access with a 12th... And here people said he didn't deserve to get "deteammied" from Red Bull to Toro Rosso for Verstappen...
 
Tired Tyres
In practice fining the team is the only way to hurt the TEAM.
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We have seen drivers willingly abuse track limits to gain an advantage. How long is it before teams willingly commit infractions to gain an advantage, safe in the knowledge that they can only ever be fined? Mercedes got a €10,000 fine, but that's small change to them. Going by the way it was reported, Mercedes went out of their way to take responsibility for the release - no doubt because they knew that Hamilton was facing the possibility of a grid penalty for a reprimand. Now maybe that was a perfectly honest call, but it sets a pretty poor precedent.

What if this was qualifying and a team mis-timed a driver's run, and so performed an unsafe release to try and get a better track position?
 
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SuperDiscoDaz
From what I just heard on Sky it sounds like that some or all of the teams are dictating the rule changes regarding track limits which is totally wrong. It's about time someone bashed all the teams and FIA's heads together until they agreed on a set of uniform rules which don't have loopholes in them.
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Yes indeed they are, it's quite ridiculous.

Ferrari team boss Maurizio Arrivabene had said: “We discussed [in the Strategy Group] that we will try to have a 'wild' weekend because this track has adequate run off areas.

"But then they ended up recording everyone who went over the white lines as if we hadn't agreed anything yesterday. So we have gone to Bernie."

This means drivers will be able to use the full width of the kerb – which is what the Strategy Group wanted – rather than being forced to keep part of their car on the track.
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Arrivabene wanting Vettel to pick up a few more incredibly dangerous punctures from going waaay off track, so he can use it to beat up Pirelli, by any chance?
 
Samus
Yes indeed they are, it's quite ridiculous.
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I don't understand why the kerbs have to be so wide in the first place.

Famine
Arrivabene wanting Vettel to pick up a few more incredibly dangerous punctures from going waaay off track, so he can use it to beat up Pirelli, by any chance?
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It's easier to force the FIA to change the rules than it is to talk to Vettel when he's cranky.
 
Did Sky actually blame Grosjean for Hamilton's unsafe release? I read it on Twitter so it has to be true, right?:O
 
There is only one way to stop the debate on track limits: GIVE US BACK GRAVEL AND GRASS!
I always found that these concrete/tarmac/false grass overcurbs are just stupid. They say "it's for safety" because give drivers more "error gap", but the problem is that they actually use them to go even faster, which is somehow even worse safety talking. And to stop them doing that, they put additional vertical curbs that destroy suspension or can make the car fly (look at what happened at Red Bull Ring).
Also, think of Silverstone Schumacher crash in 1999, when he had a brakes failure. Tarmac instead of gravel = he dead.
 
Flaren89
They say "it's for safety" because give drivers more "error gap", but the problem is that they actually use them to go even faster, which is somehow even worse safety talking.
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If a car hits a gravel trap at an angle, it tends to dig in and then flip.
 
prisonermonkeys
It's technically allowed, but I don't think that it will be popular.
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I figured. Hope you're right, but if I had to guess this will be wildly popular with the teams, not so much with the fans.


Can't wait for "Use 7th gear Kimi!", "Your teammate breaks later in this corner...", "Use the complete track, stop trying to stay within the white lines!".

But I sure hope you're right.
 
Flaren89
There is only one way to stop the debate on track limits: GIVE US BACK GRAVEL AND GRASS!
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Famine
White line | Kerb | Glue | Crocodile-infested moat | Wall of burning petrol | Pile of cardboard boxes | Paparazzi | Beach | Pit lined with punji sticks | Chinese fingerpuzzle | Escaped leopards | Narnia
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Aren't paparazzi right up there for terrible-ness with lawyers? Why protect them so much, put them right behind the kerbs. That way when the flash goes off and blinds a driver momentarily we'll end up with at least 20 fewer paparazzi hanging around.
 
Line the track with little kittens? :scared:

Kerbs then a very low grip marble type surface, 2-4 metres of real grass, 2-4 metres of gravel and THEN run off.
 
haitch40
Not sure how a Chinese finger puzzle would stop them. :lol:
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They need cooperation and teamwork to escape them. Simply reversing out won't cut it.
GTracerEHTeam
Aren't paparazzi right up there for terrible-ness with lawyers? Why protect them so much, put them right behind the kerbs. That way when the flash goes off and blinds a driver momentarily we'll end up with at least 20 fewer paparazzi hanging around.
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The drivers won't want to go anywhere near the paps and have their pictures splashed all over the redtops with headlines like "HAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM", so they'll give them a wide berth - keeping them on the track.
 
Flaren89
Kvyat 19th. While his less experienced and theprically slower new teammate Sainz got Q2 access with a 12th... And here people said he didn't deserve to get "deteammied" from Red Bull to Toro Rosso for Verstappen...
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Apart from the incidents with Vettel, he was doing more than fine compared to Ricciardo pace-wise. I think its purely his motivation, and confidence in his own skill take took a huge dive since he got demoted to Toro Rosso. You cannot really blame the guy, for his sake I hope he can regain his strength.
 
Bram Turismo
Apart from the incidents with Vettel, he was doing more than fine compared to Ricciardo pace-wise. I think its purely his motivation, and confidence in his own skill take took a huge dive since he got demoted to Toro Rosso. You cannot really blame the guy, for his sake I hope he can regain his strength.
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As @sems4arsenal says he looks mentally destroyed and as you say you can't blame him, the demotion was a huge blow to his confidence and morale. Anyone demoted in the workplace is going to suffer similarly, no matter what the profession.
 
Tired Tyres
Line the track with little kittens? :scared:

Kerbs then a very low grip marble type surface, 2-4 metres of real grass, 2-4 metres of gravel and THEN run off.
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What about 2 metres of like convention centre smooth concrete? It won't let them roll but it surely won't give them more grip.

The old Toyota F1 didn't exactly grab it very well.
 
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Bram Turismo
You cannot really blame the guy, for his sake I hope he can regain his strength.
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I think he's got another problem to worry about - Sergey Sirotkin. He just demolished the GP2 field despite being forced to make a second pit stop, and he's got backing from SMP Bank. If Kvyat needs to look elsewhere for a drive in 2017 and it comes down to funding, I would say Sirotkin could sweep it out from under him.
 
Liquid
For what it's worth, I found the longer version of that battle. Panis was carving his way through the field with some lovely OBC and that Honda V10 sounds fabulous.

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So glorious.

:(
 
GTracerEHTeam
What about 2 metres of like convention centre smooth concrete? It won't let them roll but it surely won't give them more grip.

The old Toyota F1 didn't exactly grab it very well.
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Forgot how gorgeous this car was.
 
Is there a word for topping every practice session then Grand Slamming a race? Rosberg could do it this weekend.
 

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