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[Speedy6543]

Interesting FP1 for MotoGP. Looks for some shuffled Qualifying compared to last year if they keep this up.

Also, have gotten another explanation to what the Factory 2 Class is about.
They get to run under Open Class regulations but as this was a Factory Class Team Dorna implemented a rule/penalties which now goes for all Open Class Teams.
If they win a race, come 2nd twice or finish 3rd three times they will get dropped down to 22l of fuel usage for the next races. In the event where they win 3 races they will lose the softer option rear tyre.

Also also, as they (the Open Class) are permitted to run with 24l of fuel, most of them won't. Ducati e.g. will run with just over 23l and the Hondas (RC1000R) only have a 22.5l fueltank.

So having to drop down to 22l won't be as much of a penalty for the Open Class. The reporters also mentioned that the softer option rear tyre, which the Open Class may use, would not be suitable for a race as it wears down and loses almost all grip after just three laps.

With all this in mind I can see some more rule changes in the future.

 

[joetruckv8]

I appreciate photis like this when ever you can?,. Our European racing coverage has been cut to the bare minimun over here in America. I have to rely on news apps, and you guys for early data... 👍

 

[Speedy6543]

Our European racing coverage has been cut to the bare minimun over here in America.

I used to watch only the races on BBC2 but since they have sold the rights to broadcast the races for 2014 ongoing I was in a tight position myself.
Went to do some experimenting and came up with the result that you can share a videopass on MotoGP.com with friends. There's no multi login security because motogp already gives you the opportunaty to login with multiple devices in the same house. So now I'm enjoying my cheap full season multi screen video pass and thus enjoying motogp like never before.

 

[pilmat]

Wouldn't miss a race without my season pass

Thanks for the further rules info Speedy 👍 Looks like Espargaro might be getting a fuel limit sooner rather than later!

 

[joetruckv8]

I used to watch only the races on BBC2 but since they have sold the rights to broadcast the races for 2014 ongoing I was in a tight position myself.
Went to do some experimenting and came up with the result that you can share a videopass on MotoGP.com with friends. There's no multi login security because motogp already gives you the opportunaty to login with multiple devices in the same house. So now I'm enjoying my cheap full season multi screen video pass and thus enjoying motogp like never before.

Didn't know the official website offered that much?, I will have to back to it and check it out! I downloaded the F1 & MotoGp official timing app, but me here in California is the worst for catching European races at there actual start time. Most of the races are while i'm asleep so the timing apps are kind of wasted money in my case since they air during the time I'm sleep (3am - 5am Pst) for me...

 

[joetruckv8]

I used to watch only the races on BBC2 but since they have sold the rights to broadcast the races for 2014 ongoing I was in a tight position myself.
Went to do some experimenting and came up with the result that you can share a video-pass on MotoGP.com with friends. There's no multi login security because motogp already gives you the opportunity to login with multiple devices in the same house. So now I'm enjoying my cheap full season multi screen video pass and thus enjoying motogp like never before.

Didn't know the official website offered that much?, I will have to back to it and check it out! I downloaded the F1 & MotoGp official timing app, but me here in California is the worst for catching European races at there actual start time. Most of the races are while I'm asleep so the timing apps are kind of wasted money in my case since they air during the time I'm sleep (3am - 5am Pst) for me...
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-This makes me happy 2 Brits from WSBK Super Sport & 1 American from AMA Superbike Factory Yamaha. I guess Hayes is way too old,. Naw rally he just needs to just beat out the AMA Superbike's Matt Maldin's records at this point in his life/career!

 

[Speedy6543]

MotoGP Qatar FP2

A little bit of clarification is needed on those top times though.

Espargaro has set the time using the soft tyre. As did Dovi and I assume the same goes for Bautista.
Not a 100% but I believe that Pedrosa and Marquez were using their softer option, the medium tyre.
As far as the Factory Yamaha riders, Rossi and Lorenzo, I have no real idea what tyres they were using during this FP but I did see Rossi coming in after the checkered flag with the hard tyre.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Is it just me or is MotoGP 2014 stupid?.

 

[Speedy6543]

Is it just me or is MotoGP 2014 stupid?.

Well, a lot has changed but I wouldn't call that stupid.
Dorna aimed for more competition across the entire field instead of the races being already decided after turn one and it looks like they are succeeding in doing so, at least for qualifying.
Most of the Open bikes FP'd on the softs so far which indeed gives a bit of a skewed result. We'll have to see what the actual qualifying result and grid order will be.
If you are an Open bike rider and qualified on the soft rear tyre, it will still be your challenge to have a good enough pace over racedistance on the medium tyre. As Collin Edwards stated again, the soft tyre is a qualifying tyre and runs out of rubber after just 3-4 laps.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Well, a lot has changed but I wouldn't call that stupid.
Dorna aimed for more competition across the entire field instead of the races being already decided after turn one and it looks like they are succeeding in doing so, at least for qualifying.
Most of the Open bikes FP'd on the softs so far which indeed gives a bit of a skewed result. We'll have to see what the actual qualifying result and grid order will be.
If you are an Open bike rider and qualified on the soft rear tyre, it will still be your challenge to have a good enough pace over racedistance on the medium tyre. As Collin Edwards stated again, the soft tyre is a qualifying tyre and runs out of rubber after just 3-4 laps.

I guess we'll have to wait til Sunday to get an idea of how weekends will pan out, I just don't want to see weak teams beating the established teams just because they are competing under very different regulations.

 

[Speedy6543]

I guess we'll have to wait til Sunday to get an idea of how weekends will pan out, I just don't want to see weak teams beating the established teams just because they are competing under very different regulations.

Exactly and that's why they will get nerfed if they do too well.

If they win a race, come 2nd twice or finish 3rd three times they will get dropped down to 22l of fuel usage for the next races. In the event where they win 3 races they will lose the softer option rear tyre.

 

[joetruckv8]

I'm getting 341kph to 348kph as the MotoGp trap speeds @ The Losail circuit on my timing app. Is that right guys whom are getting the broadcast? That would equal out to 212mph to 218mph,. Thats fast!

 

[Speedy6543]

341-342kph seems to be correct.

http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistics/2014/QAT/MotoGP/FP3

 

[Mike Rotch]

Kind of bizzare that Aleix is favourite for tomorrow - Honda and Yamaha wont be pleased if he does win. I hope DORNA know what they are doing, because scaring off works teams is not what the sport needs.

 

[Bopop4]

I had no idea the race was tomorrow, this is going to be awesome!

 

[pilmat]

Kind of bizzare that Aleix is favourite for tomorrow - Honda and Yamaha wont be pleased if he does win. I hope DORNA know what they are doing, because scaring off works teams is not what the sport needs.

Dorna are not trying to scare off the works teams. They are trying to figure out how to get 25 four-strokes on a MotoGP grid! If it was 'factory only' we'd be down to 12 bikes by now. The CRT was a good draft formula (it didn't upset the apple cart), but this time Dorna intended on flipping the apple cart. They want everybody under the same umbrella, factory or privateer.

There is a lot of criticism of their ways, but look how good Moto2 turned out Moto3 has gone a good ways to cut into bike elitism (remember how big the performance gap was getting in 125?).

The thing I like in MotoGP versus say F1 is that the organizers, factories and teams all work TOGETHER to further the sport. Sure some arm twisting happens some times, but the players all remain at the table And Suzuki is coming back!!!

Enjoy qualifying! I know I'm looking forward to it

 

[Speedy6543]

Kind of bizzare that Aleix is favourite for tomorrow - Honda and Yamaha wont be pleased if he does win. I hope DORNA know what they are doing, because scaring off works teams is not what the sport needs.

I'm quite confident Aleix won't walk away with the win as he needs to race on the medium tyre and will qualify (and has done all FP's) on the soft tyre.
Bautista on the other hand has done all FP's on the medium tyre, their racing tyre and seems to be right up there on the timesheets.
He's more likely looking to get away with the win IMO.

 

[joetruckv8]

Kind of bizzare that Aleix is favourite for tomorrow - Honda and Yamaha wont be pleased if he does win. I hope DORNA know what they are doing, because scaring off works teams is not what the sport needs.

Im thinking about changing my Fantasy picks because of this'

 

[Speedy6543]

Results of Moto3 Qualifying

 

[Carbonox]

Damn, that was a devastating crash in the Moto2 qually's very last moments.

 

[Speedy6543]

Yeay, saw it too. Hope the rider's going to be alright.

EDIT:

 

[Peasantslayer]

Quali wasn't so bad, very close between the top 12 so we should have some good racing tomorrow.

 

[A2K78]

Awesome to see Nakagami on the front row...hopefully he ends up winning given the fact that he has the speed.

 

[Speedy6543]

Marquez getting pole and Aleix crashing twice, messing up his Q2 was a surprise to say the least.

 

[joetruckv8]

Damn, that was a devastating crash in the Moto2 qually's very last moments.

Yeay, saw it too. Hope the rider's going to be alright.

EDIT:

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Are you guys watching this off of the website, or do you guys have local broadcast for this race FP & QP sessions plus race?

 

[Carbonox]

Are you guys watching this off of the website, or do you guys have local broadcast for this race FP & QP sessions plus race?

Local broadcast.

 

[joetruckv8]

Local broadcast.

tyvm

 

[Speedy6543]

Are you guys watching this off of the website, or do you guys have local broadcast for this race FP & QP sessions plus race?

In my case it's from my videopass on MotoGP.com.

 

[Speedy6543]

This is the closest qualifying I've seen in a long time, if not ever, in MotoGP.

0.6 between pole and 12th

Looks for a promising first couple laps at least.

 

[joetruckv8]

In my case it's from my videopass on MotoGP.com.

I have the app that cost money so ill exploit it and the website a bit.