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But Nurburgring and COTA don't look the same do they? :sly: They aren't THAT cookie cutter...to like the exact design. *coughCharlotte/Texas/Atlantacough* :lol:



I jest I jest, cut me some slack I'm not being 100% serious...maybe. :lol:
 
All is relative. A race is a race. However, the show is becoming more important these days.... (Which is why the Tilke tracks are destroying what is left of other racing series.....)
 
TRLWNC7396
All is relative. A race is a race. However, the show is becoming more important these days.... (Which is why the Tilke tracks are destroying what is left of other racing series.....)
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At least 99% American tracks have no money...can't possibly afford to do it. :p

But COTA is AMAZING. :drool:
 
MustangManiac
Cookie cutter: I don't think it means what you think it means.
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I never thought of the term cookie-cutter as the way it means for ovals specifically. I don't follow NASCAR so the extent of boredom went over my head.
 
Carbonox
Kinda sad to think this weekend will be the last street course race of the whole season, and it's just a single event as opposed to the dual races at Toronto last year.
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Yeah, not sure why they didn't do two races this year. Unless it has to do with the Pan-Am games being held when the race is usually held.
 
Another thing about this weekend's Toronto race... it is the ONLY non-American venue this season. Considering the history of the Indy Racing League and the Champ Car World Series, this is rather disappointing to have only one non-American round of the championship. Toronto is going to be its usual tricky self. You get tripped up rather easily taking on this tricky street course. So it will be interesting to see who'll tame Toronto best.
 
TRLWNC7396
More events would be nice. We shall see.
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Didn't the announcers talk about Houston making a comeback for 2016? That, along with the Boston street course, would be exciting.

I'd still like to expand it even further. Surfers Paradise, which was just mentioned above, is quite an awesome venue and would fit IndyCar well, it'd be a nice throwback to the good ol' CART days too. That, and Road America. If there's not enough space for those, they can always drop NOLA, Indy Road Course and Texas, which I wouldn't mind. :p
 
Carbonox
Didn't the announcers talk about Houston making a comeback for 2016? That, along with the Boston street course, would be exciting.

I'd still like to expand it even further. Surfers Paradise, which was just mentioned above, is quite an awesome venue and would fit IndyCar well, it'd be a nice throwback to the good ol' CART days too. That, and Road America. If there's not enough space for those, they can always drop NOLA, Indy Road Course and Texas, which I wouldn't mind. :p
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The Houston track is terrible and an embarrassment (it's a parking lot circuit) but I would love to see Surfers Paradise and Road America return.
 
If it were up to me and if I were trying to bring IndyCar back to Houston, I'd have the series race around Motorsport Ranch Houston down in Angleton, TX. The New Orleans course is a motorsports park, so why not another? I do like the course around Reliant Park, so I'm not going to hate on it all that much. I am very much in agreement with racing around Surfers Paradise. On the same end, I maybe wouldn't mind seeing Motegi (oval, road course, or both) return. You could have an illegitimate World Championship if you have a European or African venue to go with any rounds in the Asia-Pacific in addition to the Pan-American courses. So I was thinking maybe IndyCar around... Rockingham (as in England's Rockingham), Donnington Park, Brands Hatch, or a venue that Champ Car once raced- Zolder. More European options? Here are some ideas: Mantorp Park, Zandvoort, Mugello, Misano, or maybe even Monza?

But again... Toronto is the only non-American round of the 2015 championship for a series that famously took on various other venues outside of America and Canada. It's sad, really. I actually consider Surfers Paradise a staple of Indy/Champ Car racing. About as much of a staple as the series racing at tracks like Mid-Ohio or Burke Lakefront Airport in Cleveland. Toronto is a staple of the series in its own right. Hoping this weekend's race will be as classic as any other on the streets of Toronto...
 
Maybe they can only support a certain number of big events per year. I think I've heard a vague mention of that somewhere.

It went something like this: Once you hit a certain saturation, the people who will come don't have the money or time to support ALL of them.
 
TRLWNC7396
It's a big state...... :(
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Not big enough for Eddie Gossage's ego I'm afraid... And no track owner in their right mind would want to look at hosting an Indycar race to be honest; It's only the cities with dreams of street circuits looking right now (See: Boston, Dubai, Durban Etc. Etc.).
 
Carbonox
Didn't the announcers talk about Houston making a comeback for 2016? That, along with the Boston street course, would be exciting.

I'd still like to expand it even further. Surfers Paradise, which was just mentioned above, is quite an awesome venue and would fit IndyCar well, it'd be a nice throwback to the good ol' CART days too. That, and Road America. If there's not enough space for those, they can always drop NOLA, Indy Road Course and Texas, which I wouldn't mind. :p
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Are you kidding? You want that disaster of a track back? Was Houston not bad enough for you? Is Belle Isle (Roger Penske's Money and Detroit Butt kissing aside) not terrible enough for you?
 
Scott Dixon's livery for Toronto 👍
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RACECAR
Are you kidding? You want that disaster of a track back? Was Houston not bad enough for you? Is Belle Isle (Roger Penske's Money and Detroit Butt kissing aside) not terrible enough for you?
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Indycar has never raced at Boston, you're thinking Baltimore.
 
RACECAR
Are you kidding? You want that disaster of a track back? Was Houston not bad enough for you? Is Belle Isle (Roger Penske's Money and Detroit Butt kissing aside) not terrible enough for you?
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The two Houston races last year were easily the most fun IndyCar races I've ever watched, as a matter of fact.

Oh and by the way, I saw Baltimore 2013 too. Another fun race. (If you were referring to Baltimore, that is) Same can't be said for certain other courses that have somehow stayed on the calendar for a while now without managing to produce exciting or close racing.
 
I agree with RACECAR on the Jurassic World car. Though I probably would have preferred more a black/silver more than a black/gray combo. It still will look great rocking the streets of Toronto this weekend.

According to Weather Underground, it is said to be mostly cloudy for the race on Sunday. No rain expected. Highs around 70°F. Heck... us Texans can use that 70°F like here in 94°F Houston. So we won't have a rainy mess like with the round in Detroit.
 
TheBook
Indycar has never raced at Boston, you're thinking Baltimore.
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Carbonox
The two Houston races last year were easily the most fun IndyCar races I've ever watched, as a matter of fact.

Oh and by the way, I saw Baltimore 2013 too. Another fun race. (If you were referring to Baltimore, that is) Same can't be said for certain other courses that have somehow stayed on the calendar for a while now without managing to produce exciting or close racing.
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Don't know how I got Boston mixed up but yeah, I meant Baltimore. Houston is a terrible track, Belle Isle is a terrible track. Most of these street courses that Indycar go to are just terrible (Including the one in Brazil they went to). They are exactly the old F1 street circuit formula of Corner-corner-corner-one straight-corner, only made worse by stupid oversights (like the railroad bumps at Baltimore) and bumpier track surfaces.
 
The bumpier street surfaces are mostly due to lousy road build quality in the states. Long Beach is the exception due to that SoCal weather.
 
TRLWNC7396
I wish they could return to Australia.
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The series outgrew Surfers' years ago, and there's not really any other circuit that could handle it. Adelaide and Eastern Creek are too short, they would probably have issues with Formula 1 (and the residents) if they tried to go to Melbourne, and there are safety issues with Bathurst and Philip Island.

If IndyCar really wanted to return to Australia, then their best bet would be to wait for one of the circuits in development to be realised. The old Mitsubishi proving ground at Tailem Bend is getting a complete overhaul, but it is a little isolated and might struggle to draw a crowd. There's another project in development near Toowoomba, but it remains to be seen what the Palaczczuk government does in terms of funding. The third - and probably best - option would be to go to Bathurst; the Bathurst regional council recently purchased seventy or so hectares alongside Conrod Straight to build a second circuit (it would loop around the paddock, go up Conrod in reverse, then turn around and weave back down to the Chase). And one of the conditions of its construction is exploring the possibility of getting international series racing on it; MotoGP has been flagged as a potential championship, so why not IndyCar?
 
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