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What happened?Joke's on them, it didn't work.
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Dillon bumped Harvick, the 4 whipped around a few times and finally stopped in the path of the 41.
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Best part about it, after he was finished with NBC, Harvick told PRN that the #3 just turned him.
He knows what they're trying to do, and I love how he's stringing them on!
He knows what they're trying to do, and I love how he's stringing them on!
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I don't even think Fox does it, last I watched they didn't anyway. Then again, NASCAR is also favoring NBC heavily over Fox as well
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Probably why they're favoring NBC...because NBC is okay doing that for NASCAR.
They sort've already did even in NBC's first year back (when there was no ESPN-esque sturring of the pot) so I'm not sure its that.
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Just my opinion, but with the shrinking fields it appears that the charters don't really mean much. Also with the shorter fields and the amount of field fillers, I think 12 would be a better number to make the chase. There are at least 10 cars out there every week with no chance at winning, so a driver just has to beat half of the field based on points. The other option would be to shorten fields to 36 cars per race.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind. Do we really need a 40 car field if only the tiniest portion of them have ANY chance?
Also, you're pretty much spot on regarding charters. Would've been understandable in the days of 45 or little more showing up for qualifying every week, but now its barely 40 at times so its beyond meaningless
Also, you're pretty much spot on regarding charters. Would've been understandable in the days of 45 or little more showing up for qualifying every week, but now its barely 40 at times so its beyond meaningless
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I had an opposing view to the field size, but after 30 minutes trying I remembered I'm too much of an idiot to say anything.
I've never cared for the charters. They're an insurance policy for investment in the series spearheaded by the guy who funded MWR. All it does is deter small teams from even trying and allowed big teams to dismiss qualifying, which did change with the damned stages.
I've never cared for the charters. They're an insurance policy for investment in the series spearheaded by the guy who funded MWR. All it does is deter small teams from even trying and allowed big teams to dismiss qualifying, which did change with the damned stages.
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Sooo... There's a new team being founded. StarCom Racing will be run by Derrike Cope and the 00 driven by...the same guy.
NASCAR is reevaluating the practice penalties.
Phoenix has sold it's naming rights and will become ISM Races at.
Monster Energy has requested more time to decide on their series sponsorships.
NASCAR is reevaluating the practice penalties.
Phoenix has sold it's naming rights and will become ISM Races at.
Monster Energy has requested more time to decide on their series sponsorships.
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No, it really is Derrike Cope...
http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017...ches-compete-monster-energy-nascar-cup-series
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My bad. Was at the end of break and didn't realize autocorrect went stupid again.
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No worries, Derrick Cole is about as NASCAR of a name as it gets so it didn't seem out of place to me.
Also, not too keen on Phoenix getting corporate naming but I guess they have to mitigate the cost of all that renovation somehow. And at least it's not some terrible buzzwordy tech firm's name going on there.
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Indeed. They've already withdrawn from Dover.
UPDATE 9-26-2017 per StarComRacing's Twitter Due to personnel hiring & timing, StarCom Racing will withdraw from Dover to ensure a fully staffed quality crew. 00 will hit the track soon
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Indeed. They've already withdrawn from Dover.
UPDATE 9-26-2017 per StarComRacing's Twitter Due to personnel hiring & timing, StarCom Racing will withdraw from Dover to ensure a fully staffed quality crew. 00 will hit the track soon
Who was it who turned up to a Cup Race a few years back with no pit crew and got parked?
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http://www.racer.com/north-american-racing/item/144524-tv-ratings-nascar-new-hampshire-kentucky
Major ratings drop across all three series. I know the NFL probably had something to do with it (and maybe the National anthem debate to an extent), but I wonder why they're so down? Really hope it isn't, but wouldn't be surprised, if some of the decline came from Toyota dominating the field by having a better car this season and triggering the "Murica" contingent of the fanbase.
Major ratings drop across all three series. I know the NFL probably had something to do with it (and maybe the National anthem debate to an extent), but I wonder why they're so down? Really hope it isn't, but wouldn't be surprised, if some of the decline came from Toyota dominating the field by having a better car this season and triggering the "Murica" contingent of the fanbase.
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People are cutting off cable and satellite TV at higher rates every year. The races are only available on non-broadcast channels, and are getting left behind as a result.
If any actual NASCAR fans turned away because of the performance of a foreign car brand, I'm sure it was a very small group of people. Oddly enough, they would be the same people that would come running back to watch NASCAR over the NFL because no one in NASCAR protested the national anthem.
I'm really curious to see what effect on ratings it will have next year when Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, and Dale Jr will all have retired in a very small window of time. Will the fans of those three drivers for the last 15 years continue to watch?
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Man that's gonna be one hell of a fast Texas carIndeed. They've already withdrawn from Dover.
UPDATE 9-26-2017 per StarComRacing's Twitter Due to personnel hiring & timing, StarCom Racing will withdraw from Dover to ensure a fully staffed quality crew. 00 will hit the track soon
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Yeah, the exclusive TV deals that NASCAR worked so hard to secure will ultimately bite them if Dish Network, DirecTV and the like keep ticking off customers like they have. Especially if they continue their yearly trend of having a slapfight with Viacom and causing local channels to be blacked out as a bargaining tool.
I imagine some part of Junior Nation is going to stick around since we know he's going to be in the broadcast booth for at least a couple years.
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Joe Ruttman at the spring Rockingham race in 2002 for Phoenix Racing? I remember back then that there were several start & park teams that would basically show up with a skeleton crew, qualify and them run the car until the first round of pits stops because they didn't have the proper fuel equipment to service the car.
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On the subject of cheating and getting away with it........
A few years ago Harvick's crew chief reminded him over the radio to hit the wall with the back end as he was doing his celebratory donuts after a victory. I and others take this as evidence he was cheating in some way and hiding it by messing things up after the win and before returning to pit lane.
Nowadays, it is standard practice for every winner to perform donuts and violent slewing of the rear end on a victory lap situation. Who thinks this messes up delicate rear end settings having to do with the camber and toe of the right rear tire?
With the dinky spoilers currently specified, rear end grip is at a premium, and the team(s) that get the edge do the winning. Already several teams have been caught with tricky shims and other devices at the rear end which provide as little as a .001" edge over the rules.
Are most of the winners cheating in this way? Who is the most successful cheater of all, the #78?
A few years ago Harvick's crew chief reminded him over the radio to hit the wall with the back end as he was doing his celebratory donuts after a victory. I and others take this as evidence he was cheating in some way and hiding it by messing things up after the win and before returning to pit lane.
Nowadays, it is standard practice for every winner to perform donuts and violent slewing of the rear end on a victory lap situation. Who thinks this messes up delicate rear end settings having to do with the camber and toe of the right rear tire?
With the dinky spoilers currently specified, rear end grip is at a premium, and the team(s) that get the edge do the winning. Already several teams have been caught with tricky shims and other devices at the rear end which provide as little as a .001" edge over the rules.
Are most of the winners cheating in this way? Who is the most successful cheater of all, the #78?
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Since Hamlin won at Watkins Glen last, I cannot recall a winner who didn't shred their tires, and that's ironic to me considering that Hamlin had to walk to victory lane that day because the car had no rear tires and there was debris all down the frontstretch, which by my (admittedly horrible) recollection, lead to NASCAR putting a mandate out that the winners couldn't do that, at least that's what I remember being told. I don't think I've heard of a single fine for it yet, probably because it's almost unenforceable and then the teams could plausibly deny such claims because there's no clean evidence.
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