2017 Virgin Australia Supercars Championship - Results and TalkTouring Cars

[05XR8]

Giz gets 15 seconds, but Fab is still an extra 35points adrift.

Edit: gets interesting now.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

If Lowndes is out of contract for 2018, someone should give Roger Penske a call about a third car.

 

[05XR8]

If Lowndes is out of contract for 2018, someone should give Roger Penske a call about a third car.

I already got that. Him and Stanaway for a 4 car assault.

And I don't think Craig is going to settle for 4th.

 

[Pete05]

I already got that. Him and Stanaway for a 4 car assault.

And I don't think Craig is going to settle for 4th.

That'd make CL the only Aussie in a default Team Kiwi

 

[LumpiestFish]

I don't really get the masssive hype around Stanaway. Yes he's obviously good, but he wasn't a class above the other co-drivers last year.

 

[05XR8]

I don't really get the masssive hype around Stanaway. Yes he's obviously good, but he wasn't a class above the other co-drivers last year.

He was. In the wet, on slicks at Sandown. Plus, he never drove a V8. I think he was as good as Ekstrom.


Edit: I'll take that DJRTP 1-2.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Ugh.

A weekend to forget.

 

[Spacegoat]

Well, this will end under safety car. Or not.

That'd make CL the only Aussie in a default Team Kiwi

Haven't we claimed McLaughlin yet? We normally claim anything good that comes out of NZ.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Not sure if it has been posted, but Will Davison has a suspected back fracture.

 

[05XR8]

YES!

 

[prisonermonkeys]

That smile takes twenty years off Dick Johnson's face.

 

[Litening1]

Happy for a kiwi 1-2

 

[Pete05]

Congrats to DJRTP on their 1-2. It's been a longtime coming and the writing has been on the wall since Adelaide.
Great to see this team come back from the brink & what looks like being an intense rivalry with RBHRT. Bring it on.

 

[05XR8]

PRA looked strong. Frosty was having problems and Waters was speedy. Don't know why those two kept running high at the turns, but PI could be another high speed duel.

Was looking good for Todd.

Good job for Reynolds.

Holdsworth can't win for losing.

I'm still not ruling GRM out. They'll be right there next round.

Simona held it together. She's not just making up the numbers.

 

[CodeRedR51]

PRA is savage.

 

[legatoblues]

Thought the racing was pretty damn good today. Definitely enjoyed that race.

But I do want to say that I wish they'd do away with the fuel drop rules. It's an unnecessary and convoluted mess that is a poor choice as a parity measure (which was the initial excuse for it's inception) and unreliable as a "mix up the order" variable. If you want to force pitstops, do it with smaller fuel tanks (from memory we actually had this prior to COTF, 75L sprint tank, 120L enduro tank) and let them race and strategize as the teams see fit.

 

[05XR8]

Thought the racing was pretty damn good today. Definitely enjoyed that race.

But I do want to say that I wish they'd do away with the fuel drop rules. It's an unnecessary and convoluted mess that is a poor choice as a parity measure (which was the initial excuse for it's inception) and unreliable as a "mix up the order" variable. If you want to force pitstops, do it with smaller fuel tanks (from memory we actually had this prior to COTF, 75L sprint tank, 120L enduro tank) and let them race and strategize as the teams see fit.

I think, mentioned by Todd Kelly last year, the Altima was still not on par with fuel economy.

 

[legatoblues]

I think, mentioned by Todd Kelly last year, the Altima was still not on par with fuel economy.

Not surprised by that. But my point is that if you want to create parity by trying to take fuel economy out of the equation, then I don't believe that the mandatory fuel drop is the right way to do it.

 

[05XR8]

Not surprised by that. But my point is that if you want to create parity by trying to take fuel economy out of the equation, then I don't believe that the mandatory fuel drop is the right way to do it.

For sure. I gather they'll wait for Roland Dane to determine the rules, when the NG Commodore debuts next year.

 

[TDZdave]

Did I catch somewhere that Fabian Coulthard has been given a 35 point penalty for causing the massive crash?


:EDIT: Found

Yeah, just read that.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/04/09/points-penalty-coulthard-race-3-crash/
Doesn't make sense to blame anyone in this instance.

Can that be appealed?

 

[05XR8]

Did I catch somewhere that Fabian Coulthard has been given a 35 point penalty for causing the massive crash?


:EDIT: Found



Can that be appealed?

I'm sure it could, but Fabs mentioned what's done is done and can't get the points back. Whether that's him being a driver and not caring or leaving it to the team, to make that decision, we'll see.

 

[CodeRedR51]

What I saw during his onboard video was that he turned into 3 and the car skated a bit, so he counter steered to the left to catch the car and that's when Rick tried to go around him so the two made contact. Looked like a total racing in the rain deal to me.

 

[05XR8]

He was also caught in the middle, like at the Northern Territory round last year. I don't think anyone got a penalty for that.

So much for the "play on" rules this year.

 

[Pete05]

What I saw during his onboard video was that he turned into 3 and the car skated a bit, so he counter steered to the left to catch the car and that's when Rick tried to go around him so the two made contact. Looked like a total racing in the rain deal to me.

And yet if that had of been SVG, Whincup or Lowndes, all the 888/Roland Dane haters would've been screaming that it was done on purpose & for a ban and large fine

 

[ScottPuss20]

No different to any street circuit and definitely no different to Bathurst. Wanting to take those off of the calendar too? I wouldn't say it's the worst accident ever, severity wise. The Davison-Kelly hit was massive, and the Douglas-Courtney hit was pretty hefty, but most of the other hits weren't too extraordinary. It's just the amount of cars in the accident was like something we've never been used too.

Well I guess that's the risk you take when racing at these circuits.

 

[05XR8]

April 29, KOFM Newcastle, will give away rides on the Newcastle circuit.

 

[Spacegoat]

Simona held it together. She's not just making up the numbers.

Definitely. She's showing legitimate pace. Really impressive stuff so far. 👍

 

[Nismonath5]

Although I'm a Holden guy, it's nice to see RedBull knocked off their "We dominate everything" perch this season. DJR are putting up a solid fight, and with kiwis behind the wheel no less! Go Coulthard and McLaughlin! Hope to see this battle continue throughout the season! (This year's Bathurst 1000 could be interesting!)

 

[05XR8]

http://www.supercars.com/news/championship/race-3-crash-investigation-ongoing/
Really?
How about blame Mother Nature. Or, let's blame the race organisers for having the race so late.

 

[05XR8]

In March, Kia say they are not joining Supercars. Then, this comes out:
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-ne...cial&utm_content=54245&utm_campaign=editorial

Mr Meredith told CarsGuide that although Kia Australia hasn't discussed specific budgets with prospective team partners he did "have a fair idea of what it will cost."

In response to the suggestion that Walkinshaw Racing, dropped by Holden as a factory Supercars team in 2016, may be open to a new brand association, Mr Meredith said, "Who's to say we haven't already had that conversation."

"Kia's never gone racing in Australia before, and we have to substantiate what a program would deliver, but we'd probably go with one team," he said.