2023 September Update Prediction

[Keef]

I'll gladly pay $5 for a 10+ car GT2-style JDM crapbox pack.

So many tracks to choose from but GT4 is the GOAT - Grand Canyon, NYC, Motegi, etc. Honestly I'd rather have any of these tracks from older games than a completely new one.

 

[MoLiEG]

More Scapes.
More GR3 races
No TS020.
No GR2 races.
A Mail truck.
A VGT car.

 

[rsh]

3 cars.
Ferrari 296 GT3. Because the game needs cars that actually race now, and not 10 years ago (hello 458 GT3).
Lexus LfA
Volvo V70 UK Police Car. Would prefer the Dutch version, but that is the S70 saloon.

New track and scapes with Circuit Gilles Villeneuve and Montreal.
I would prefer Brno or Mugello, however not seeing that happen in the foreseeable future.

Some races with a max pay out of 90.000 credits for gt3, 15 laps at the new circuit.

 

[330_D]

A Bobcat
A Caterpillar
A Man dump truck
A Mercedes 220 D taxi!!!!

Track
Whatever Kaz thinks that fits it that update!!!!

I'm an operator for a living. This will be my chance to be on top.

 

[DonRamon1981]

3 cars.
Ferrari 296 GT3. Because the game needs cars that actually race now, and not 10 years ago (hello 458 GT3).

I would love that addition. Along with the McLaren 720S GT3

 

[RACECAR]

A Bobcat
A Caterpillar
A Man dump truck
A Mercedes 220 D taxi!!!!

Track
Whatever Kaz thinks that fits it that update!!!!

Not a single JCB vehicle, smh

 

[330_D]

Not a single JCB vehicle, smh

I'm not a JCB fan but this belongs here.

 

[dacc10]

Is there really a point in making predictions? Not only there is that Toyota obsession with PD, but also their focus seems to be on meme/troll cars.

At this point, we are as likely to get the Lexus LFA or a funeral car in the next update.

 

[TumeK5]

Is there really a point in making predictions? Not only there is that Toyota obsession with PD, but also their focus seems to be on meme/troll cars.

At this point, we are as likely to get the Lexus LFA or a funeral car in the next update.

Or then they give us the Lexus LFC instead.

 

[Techlet]

Is there really a point in making predictions? Not only there is that Toyota obsession with PD, but also their focus seems to be on meme/troll cars.

At this point, we are as likely to get the Lexus LFA or a funeral car in the next update.

 

[Nielsen]

Cars:
2019 Ferrari 812 Superfast
2022 Honda NSX Type S
1998 Mazda Roadster 1.8 RS (NB)

Menu Book:
Mazda Roadsters Cup

Extra Menu:
Ferrari V12 (365 GTB/4, F12 and 812)
Mazda Roadster (NA, NB and ND)

Events:
Mazda Roadsters Cup at Tsukuba
Mazda Roadsters Cup at Goodwood
Mazda Roadsters Cup at Blue Moon Bay
Ferrari Circuit Challenge at Monza

Scapes:
2 new

 

[Hellburner]

After the slightly disappointing last update, I predict that PD will spoil us with the next one. 😏

Cars

Mercedes 190E EVOII
BMW 750i e38
Koenigsegg CCX
Mazda CX-5 Turbo
Peugeot 9x8

Track

Midfield

Events

Trial Mountain 30 laps - <700pp road cars - 1.000.000 cr.
1 hour of Fuji - Gr.2 - 2.000.000 cr.
600pp 4-door event @ Midfield raceway - 50.000 cr.
Engine swap championship - only for non matching number cars - 5 races - 5x 100.000 cr. + 500.000 cr.

 

[Batschisane52]

Not only there is that Toyota obsession with PD, but also their focus seems to be on meme/troll cars.

There are just 4 of what you call "meme/troll cars" in the game, and only two of them came with updates...

How do you get the absurd idea that the focus of PD seems to be on meme/troll cars ???

 

[GT PRO-AM]

Not a single JCB vehicle, smh

I'd even be happy with the unusual and soon forgotten Caterpillar-powered Lola (actually a tuned and rebadged VW V10 TDI engine).

or a funeral car

Someone said funeral car?

Spoiler

Here's a Maserati funeral car... Sometimes called "Ponente", but of course it's not an official name, and probably this name will change if Maserati, as it seems, wants to launch a new car with this name.

 

[Darla Starch]

There are just 4 of what you call "meme/troll cars" in the game, and only two of them came with updates...

How do you get the absurd idea that the focus of PD seems to be on meme/troll cars ???

"Could've been (GT3/4/WEC/WRC/BTCC/proper DTM and not GT3 series #600 DTM)" is a safe bet.

 

[GleepGlop]

As someone who has given up on the game, they are going to have to bring a major wishlist car to the game to even get me to download the update, let alone want to grind the credits to buy the car.
Lexus LFA, I can't think of a single other car that would make me blink.
I'll check out the car and track list at the end of update support I guess, but the credit grind is a complete turn off. Its a shame because there is a whole other game's worth of cars in the game for me still locked behind a paywall or grindwall.
edit: OK i'd play if they had my Honda Element in the game.

 

[BlinkerFluid]

Cars:
BMW G80 M3
Lexus IS300
VW Mk4 R32
Lotus Elise

Tracks:
London
NYC

 

[BangsMcCoy]

As someone who has given up on the game, they are going to have to bring a major wishlist car to the game to even get me to download the update, let alone want to grind the credits to buy the car.
Lexus LFA, I can't think of a single other car that would make me blink.
I'll check out the car and track list at the end of update support I guess, but the credit grind is a complete turn off. Its a shame because there is a whole other game's worth of cars in the game for me still locked behind a paywall or grindwall.
edit: OK i'd play if they had my Honda Element in the game.

What about if they give us the fastest ambulance in the world? The Lotus Evora from Dubai?

 

[RobertHammer]

What about if they give us the fastest ambulance in the world? The Lotus Evora from Dubai?

If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too

Lotus Evora '09

The Lotus Evora '09 is a sports car from Lotus. It first appeared in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue as part of the Spec III update, and later returned in Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 6. Twenty colors are available: Aspen White Ice White Arctic Silver Graphite Grey Quartz Silver Storm Titanium Liquid...

gran-turismo.fandom.com

 

[BangsMcCoy]

If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too

Lotus Evora '09

The Lotus Evora '09 is a sports car from Lotus. It first appeared in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue as part of the Spec III update, and later returned in Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 6. Twenty colors are available: Aspen White Ice White Arctic Silver Graphite Grey Quartz Silver Storm Titanium Liquid...

gran-turismo.fandom.com

Debatable. There’s no guarantee of that. If PD had license to use Lotus in GT7 it doesn’t mean the Evora would be in he game, it just means it could be possible to put in the game without legal woes. There are lots of Lotus models to choose from and PD certainly wouldn’t model them all to put in.

Either way, my question to GleepGlop was whether that car would get them to start playing again, not whether or not Lotus could be in GT7. Ambulance are all the rage in GT7 right now, and the worlds fastest would certainly be a huge hit, no?

 

[Nebuc72]

Debatable. There’s no guarantee of that. If PD had license to use Lotus in GT7 it doesn’t mean the Evora would be in he game, it just means it could be possible to put in the game without legal woes. There are lots of Lotus models to choose from and PD certainly wouldn’t model them all to put in.

Either way, my question to GleepGlop was whether that car would get them to start playing again, not whether or not Lotus could be in GT7. Ambulance are all the rage in GT7 right now, and the worlds fastest would certainly be a huge hit, no?

The Evora and Elise were in the GT Sport beta, they were removed for release due to the licensing issues. They've already been modelled, hence the comment.

 

[BangsMcCoy]

The Evora and Elise were in the GT Sport beta, they were removed for release due to the licensing issues. They've already been modelled, hence the comment.

Yes, this is public knowledge. Most people that follow GT series know this. That information is really irrelevant to the comment I made though. It was a purely theoretical question. My question wasn’t at all “why isn’t Lotus in the game?”.

Still, even if already modeled for GT Sport, that is no guarantee it would be included in GT7.
Likely? Sure.
Possibly? Yes.
Guaranteed? No.

 

[Nebuc72]

Yes, this is public knowledge. Most people that follow GT series know this. That information is really irrelevant to the comment I made though. It was a purely theoretical question. My question wasn’t at all “why isn’t Lotus in the game?”.

Still, even if already modeled for GT Sport, that is no guarantee it would be included in GT7.
Likely? Sure.
Possibly? Yes.
Guaranteed? No.

Not really, you made an explicit comment about if they would choose to model it or not. They have modelled it, hence it being likely we would still have it. Every modelled car in GTS made the jump to 7 unless there were licensing stipulations that prevented it. No reason this would be a sudden exception.

Not sure what is hard to understand about that. I made no inference about whether or not Lotus should be in the game, I responded directly to your comments referencing;
"If PD had license to use Lotus in GT7 it doesn’t mean the Evora would be in he game" (sic) and "There are lots of Lotus models to choose from and PD certainly wouldn’t model them all to put in."

If you knew all that information, perhaps feigning ignorance to double down on a silly point isn't the best outcome for your own perception.

 

[SM_Marti]

But I just saw from the datamined list that there were some Lotus: including the Evora Gr.3 and Gr.4

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Not really, you made an explicit comment about if they would choose to model it or not. They have modelled it, hence it being likely we would still have it. Every modelled car in GTS made the jump to 7 unless there were licensing stipulations that prevented it. No reason this would be a sudden exception.

Not sure what is hard to understand about that. I made no inference about whether or not Lotus should be in the game, I responded directly to your comments referencing;
"If PD had license to use Lotus in GT7 it doesn’t mean the Evora would be in he game" (sic) and "There are lots of Lotus models to choose from and PD certainly wouldn’t model them all to put in."

If you knew all that information, perhaps feigning ignorance to double down on a silly point isn't the best outcome for your own perception.

Start at the beginning. Context is important. Taking things out of context is bad. No part of post #78 was there an explicit comment made by me about whether or not they would choose to model the Evora or not. You should understand the entire conversation before chiming in. The direct response by roberthammer to my initial comment was out of left field and contained information quite irrelevant to my question to someone else, as it was theoretical and had nothing to do with why Lotus isn’t in the game already or not. I clarified because his response went in a completely different direction and inferred something that isn’t fact as if it were a fact.

Where I did make an explicit comment regarding Lotus modeling was after that (which is where you chimed in) and it wasn’t a question of whether or not they would model the Evora, it was intended to make the point that there are plenty of Lotus models to choose from to put in the game and there’s no guarantee that PD would choose to include the Evora (or any other particular model) in GT7 just because it was already modeled for GT Sport. Being modeled for GT Sport is no guarantee they would include it in GT7, which roberthammer suggested as if it were a fact it would be if PD had Lotus license.

It is likely, but no guarantee. Maybe Kaz for whatever reason decides he doesn’t want the Evora in GT7 and only includes other models. This is possible. You never really know what Kaz will do or why he does what he does, therefor you cannot guarantee the Evora would ever be in GT7 even if Lotus license issue is resolved and it was modeled for GT Sport. You can only simply assume it would because all other cars modeled for GT Sport made the jump to GT7.

I don’t know what is so hard to understand about the difference between what is likely, what is possible and what is guaranteed. Perhaps feigning assumptions to double down on a silly point isn’t the best outcome for your own perception.

 

[05XR8]

Any more predictions?

 

[Nebuc72]

Start at the beginning. Context is important. Taking things out of context is bad. No part of post #78 was there an explicit comment made by me about whether or not they would choose to model the Evora or not. You should understand the entire conversation before chiming in. The direct response by roberthammer to my initial comment was out of left field and contained information quite irrelevant to my question to someone else, as it was theoretical and had nothing to do with why Lotus isn’t in the game already or not. I clarified because his response went in a completely different direction and inferred something that isn’t fact as if it were a fact.

Where I did make an explicit comment regarding Lotus modeling was after that (which is where you chimed in) and it wasn’t a question of whether or not they would model the Evora, it was intended to make the point that there are plenty of Lotus models to choose from to put in the game and there’s no guarantee that PD would choose to include the Evora (or any other particular model) in GT7 just because it was already modeled for GT Sport. Being modeled for GT Sport is no guarantee they would include it in GT7, which roberthammer suggested as if it were a fact it would be if PD had Lotus license.

It is likely, but no guarantee. Maybe Kaz for whatever reason decides he doesn’t want the Evora in GT7 and only includes other models. This is possible. You never really know what Kaz will do or why he does what he does, therefor you cannot guarantee the Evora would ever be in GT7 even if Lotus license issue is resolved and it was modeled for GT Sport. You can only simply assume it would because all other cars modeled for GT Sport made the jump to GT7.

I don’t know what is so hard to understand about the difference between what is likely, what is possible and what is guaranteed. Perhaps feigning assumptions to double down on a silly point isn’t the best outcome for your own perception.

Thank you for the essay about what I responded to.
Prior context is irrelevant when you make an additional point. What you said in Post #78 is not the comment I responded to, so bringing it up is pointless. You made an additional point in response to Robert, and I clarified to that point. People aren't expected to know your backstory to comment on any borderline misinformation you may post, and neither does it negate any later points you make if they are wrong.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

But I just saw from the datamined list that there were some Lotus: including the Evora Gr.3 and Gr.4

The datamine list was a mistake to make public. Every time something is datamined in any game ever, no matter how little of it exists in the files, people take it to mean it's a cut or future feature. These things are hidden from view for a reason. Don't get your hopes up about anything you see in there, it's not PD's fault if you're disappointed because a car they never promised doesn't make it into the game.

That these cars' names exist in the files means there was, at some point, a belief amongst the developers that they might be in the game, or with how much has been carried over from GT Sport, that it might be in that game. As we've seen with plenty of examples recently, those plans can change right up to release. GT Sport did have a Lotus car removed, so it's not unlikely they also planned variants that didn't make it into the game. Removed content leaving traces in the code is not unusual. You are not supposed to see it, and you are not supposed to believe it means anything for the future of the game.

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Thank you for the essay about what I responded to.
Prior context is irrelevant when you make an additional point. What you said in Post #78 is not the comment I responded to, so bringing it up is pointless. You made an additional point in response to Robert, and I clarified to that point. People aren't expected to know your backstory to comment on any borderline misinformation you may post, and neither does it negate any later points you make if they are wrong.

I will leave with this comment so that this thread can get back on track. My apologies to everyone else here for posing a lighthearted theoretical question that led to a misleading comment being posted by another user and getting us sidetracked here for a bit.

On the contrary, context is important.
The actual “misinformation” that exists that I was trying to clarify lies within post #79 “If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too”.

“If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too” is missing a very important word that completely changes the statement, discussion and responses moving forward. Without a citation or verified quote from someone at PD supporting this claim to be true, it’s misleading at best. To my knowledge Kaz never said that the Evora and racing variants would be guaranteed in GT7 if not for licensing issues that arose during GT Sport development. If he did I wouldn’t mind a link to that interview or article as that would be new information to me.

It is likely we would have the Evora in GT7 without licensing issues, but it’s not a guarantee as inferred in the quoted statement.
Just because all other GT Sport cars carried into GT7 does not guarantee the Evora would have. This is an assumption, educated guess at best. It is likely it would have, but it’s not a guarantee.
Just because you agree with a statement doesn’t make it any more of a guarantee or true to the rest of us. It’s nothing more than an educated guess, but educated guesses and assumptions aren’t always right, nor are they guarantees of a certain outcome.

Context makes a world of difference.

 

[Nebuc72]

I will leave with this comment so that this thread can get back on track. My apologies to everyone else here for posing a lighthearted theoretical question that led to a misleading comment being posted by another user and getting us sidetracked here for a bit.

On the contrary, context is important.
The actual “misinformation” that exists that I was trying to clarify lies within post #79 “If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too”.

“If the licence wasn't the issue , we would already had that Evora in the game plus racing variants too” is missing a very important word that completely changes the statement, discussion and responses moving forward. Without a citation or verified quote from someone at PD supporting this claim to be true, it’s misleading at best. To my knowledge Kaz never said that the Evora and racing variants would be guaranteed in GT7 if not for licensing issues that arose during GT Sport development. If he did I wouldn’t mind a link to that interview or article as that would be new information to me.

It is likely we would have the Evora in GT7 without licensing issues, but it’s not a guarantee as inferred in the quoted statement.
Just because all other GT Sport cars carried into GT7 does not guarantee the Evora would have. This is an assumption, educated guess at best. It is likely it would have, but it’s not a guarantee.
Just because you agree with a statement doesn’t make it any more of a guarantee or true to the rest of us. It’s nothing more than an educated guess, but educated guesses and assumptions aren’t always right, nor are they guarantees of a certain outcome.

Context makes a world of difference.

That's still not what I responded to. It doesn't matter what you said before when you made an additional claim that stands on its own. You're roping me into a conversation that I'm not part of. I made a comment specifically on you apparently suggesting they might not choose to model the Evora, by saying they already have.

I have said nothing of the sorts regarding other cars, racing variants, or wishlists.