2024 US Presidential Election Thread
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Roasted!
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New York City is surely a culture unto itself, no doubt about that. New Jersey is far more easy-going, from a transportation standpoint.
I can't say I've felt unwelcome there, it just all seems so different to me; it's that your expectations get a little stepped upon and the unexpected becomes a boon ...that's the interesting parts of travel.
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Not a ****ing chance. It's difficult enough getting to go on holiday to places I actually want to go to. The chances of my ever visiting Staten Island are slim to none.
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Ron Desantis, at a signing event for his new book "The Courage to be Free", reportedly banned anyone from wearing Trump insignia from being present. It's on.
www.theguardian.com
Ron DeSantis called a ‘tyrant’ as Trump supporters barred from book signing
Far-right activist Laura Loomer denounces Florida governor, who is expected to challenge ex-president for Republican nomination
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Ron Desantis, at a signing event for his new book "The Courage to be Free", reportedly banned anyone from wearing Trump insignia from being present. It's on.
Ron DeSantis called a ‘tyrant’ as Trump supporters barred from book signing
Far-right activist Laura Loomer denounces Florida governor, who is expected to challenge ex-president for Republican nomination
Is there an Aesop's Fable where the two of them battle each other into a Florida sinkhole?
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No, but The Ass & The Load of Salt is probably a fitting title.
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Y'all-Qaeda cyber warfare division is heating up
apnews.com
Or it could be Russia, although their cyber warfare division is probably dead from actual warfare.
Thousands of pro-Trump bots are attacking DeSantis, Haley
WASHINGTON (AP) — Over the past 11 months, someone created thousands of fake, automated Twitter accounts — perhaps hundreds of thousands of them — to offer a stream of praise for Donald Trump. Besides posting adoring words about the former president, the fake accounts ridiculed Trump's critics...
apnews.com
Or it could be Russia, although their cyber warfare division is probably dead from actual warfare.
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I was gonna run for president until I got high...
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Afroman Files Documents to Officially Run for President in 2024
Afroman is officially running for President in 2024.
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Who else is excited to see Trump dunk on DeSantis mercilessly in the debates? DeSantis has grown his stature through his off camera maneuvering and shenanigans, but functioning well in social settings, much less a debate, is not his forte. Trump is a clown with zero ability to prioritize anything beyond promoting himself, but he is genuinely pretty quick witted, funny, and decent at debates (even if he ends up spewing a near-continuous stream of lies and ridiculous hyperbole). My predictions are that he will mostly ignore the rest of the field and make it impossible to see DeSantis as anything other than an awkward dork. The fact that DeSantis is ingratiating himself with Elon Musk only intensifies the dorkiness.
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DeSantis is going to bomb in the debates since he has zero policies outside "woke bad." It's going to be especially bad when he's asked anything about the economy too. Florida pretty much sells itself since it's warm and caters to old people, so it's not like it needs a strong economic policy. Although, given DeSantis and his asinine agenda, he's probably going to blame drag queens for tanking the economy.
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Just for fun I want to share a humourous bit I heard on a podcast the other day:
If QAnon virgins think Trump secretly won the election and secretly is still the President and the Biden administration is all elaborate acting as a facade, why is he running in 2024? If he won, that's his two terms done. If he's running again, you have to admit he lost.
If QAnon virgins think Trump secretly won the election and secretly is still the President and the Biden administration is all elaborate acting as a facade, why is he running in 2024? If he won, that's his two terms done. If he's running again, you have to admit he lost.
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Which is what I said would happen if he had won in 2020. Right after inauguration he would have gotten all of the wheels in motion to try and get the term limit repealed. He has said before that he admires Putin, and countries like China that have Presidents or rulers for life and I'm sure that is what he wants too.
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This seems like when Sony releases internal data at investor conferences that shows they are the only videogame company anyone cares about.
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This is over a month old but NYT reporter Maggie Haberman quotes the Financial Times here:
She then goes on to speculate that "on hold" doesn't mean those donors will support DeSaster if Trump screws up even more bigly and loses the nomination to him.
She then goes on to speculate that "on hold" doesn't mean those donors will support DeSaster if Trump screws up even more bigly and loses the nomination to him.
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Since Desantis' campaign announcement, Trump's lead over him has only widened, with Trump holding a 25-point lead over Desantis amongst South Carolina republicans.
www.newsweek.com
"Desantis 2024" was doomed from the very beginning and I can't possibly see why Desantis would run in 2024 rather than in 2028 other than being coerced by party leadership. In order for Desantis to eke out a primary win, he would need to successfully convince Trump voters that he is the better alternative. There is simply no other path to victory, as the majority of the Republican party still unambiguously backs Trump.
It's a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't dilemma for Ron. If Desantis largely supports and agrees with Trump, there just isn't enough of a motive for Trump voters to switch Desantis, even if Desantis is perceived as the more electable guy. The cult of personality around Trump is just too fiery and withstanding. However, if Desantis opts to criticize and differentiate himself from Trump, even for legitimate reasons, it will offend and inflame the Trump base, hurting not only his presidential chances but political image in years to come. Curiously, Desantis seems to have veered between both paths, given that he has praised Trump's presidency on numerous occasions, yet is also trying to "out-right" Trump, given that unlike Desantis, Trump does not support a national abortion ban, defunding/privatizing Social Security, and isn't attacking Disney for "indoctrinating children".
And all of this avoids the elephant in the room, that Desantis isn't a charming or charismatic guy, and comes across as too scripted and politician-like, and cannot withstand a debate against Trump. One of the leading reasons why Trump won the 2016 Republican primary was because was able to run circles around his opponents in a clever but humorous way. Desantis has gained popularity in both Florida and nationwide for his swift, decisive ability to pass "anti-woke" laws, not because he is some gifted orator or alpha-male. Given the fervor for an anti-establishment veneer amongst the Republican electorate, even if Desantis is superior when it comes to policy, it doesn't mean much if he comes across as defeated or generic in a debate against the Donald.
Trump leads tight pack in first poll since DeSantis declared for 2024
The former president has a 25-point advantage over the Florida governor in survey of likely South Carolina GOP primary voters.
www.newsweek.com
"Desantis 2024" was doomed from the very beginning and I can't possibly see why Desantis would run in 2024 rather than in 2028 other than being coerced by party leadership. In order for Desantis to eke out a primary win, he would need to successfully convince Trump voters that he is the better alternative. There is simply no other path to victory, as the majority of the Republican party still unambiguously backs Trump.
It's a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't dilemma for Ron. If Desantis largely supports and agrees with Trump, there just isn't enough of a motive for Trump voters to switch Desantis, even if Desantis is perceived as the more electable guy. The cult of personality around Trump is just too fiery and withstanding. However, if Desantis opts to criticize and differentiate himself from Trump, even for legitimate reasons, it will offend and inflame the Trump base, hurting not only his presidential chances but political image in years to come. Curiously, Desantis seems to have veered between both paths, given that he has praised Trump's presidency on numerous occasions, yet is also trying to "out-right" Trump, given that unlike Desantis, Trump does not support a national abortion ban, defunding/privatizing Social Security, and isn't attacking Disney for "indoctrinating children".
And all of this avoids the elephant in the room, that Desantis isn't a charming or charismatic guy, and comes across as too scripted and politician-like, and cannot withstand a debate against Trump. One of the leading reasons why Trump won the 2016 Republican primary was because was able to run circles around his opponents in a clever but humorous way. Desantis has gained popularity in both Florida and nationwide for his swift, decisive ability to pass "anti-woke" laws, not because he is some gifted orator or alpha-male. Given the fervor for an anti-establishment veneer amongst the Republican electorate, even if Desantis is superior when it comes to policy, it doesn't mean much if he comes across as defeated or generic in a debate against the Donald.
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