600PP 4WD Non-Racing Car and Tuned Car Super Lap: Deep Forest Raceway

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Kossie
I never drive a real car in my life(only karting. So i don't think its talent. Practice is the key i think. With a wheel its talent. But me as a controller driver its pure practice i think. Set me in a real car or behind a wheel and i'm sucks. So i think everybody can set good times.

Wheel: you need talent. DS3: practice youre ass off :cheers:
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Well said brother I'm very fast with pad very but wheel I have so much fun it's great
 
I play with a controller as well, and always use A/T gears. I agree practice is a large part of success with this game, but you guys need to acknowledge that you truly do have talent. There is no shame in it, being good at something is a worthwhile endeavor!
I for one applaud you for it!! :cheers:
 
Wolf68
Well, @fordlaser777 helped me out with his tune as well (thank you so much for that!!!) but it turns out that it's not just the tune, you actually have to have talent!! *Like these guys do*:bowdown::bowdown:
Sigh...I'll have to just be happy with my place in our little race world.:gtpflag:

:gtplanet:I really want to thank everyone here for being so great:gtplanet:
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I myself agree with this. I've used some top tunes kindly supplied by other tuners and racers, including Fordy....and though we were using the same tunes I had not been able to achieve their own times in seasonal TTs (or relatively close to) leaving me with the reality that some racers just have more talent and skill than others do. I'm not too shabby a racer IMO but I just have to be realistic that they are just better skilled and/or have the patience of Job.

And @Kossie I've been noticing your skills also and kudos to you on your achievement on this TT. Damn good time. Cheers bro.
 
davidt33
And @Kossie I've been noticing your skills also and kudos to you on your achievement on this TT. Damn good time. Cheers bro.
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I play with my 2 thumbs. Thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it. But the wheel drivers are the real deal. I always thought that a wheel was faster. But now I got one it is disappointing. Respect to the wheel drivers.

Why other controller drivers not faster than me? I don't know. Maybe i'm sharper in the turns ?
I dont wake up and drive my record time, Its more like : driving 10.000 laps and hope you get 1 good....
 
Kossie
I play with my 2 thumbs. Thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it. But the wheel drivers are the real deal. I always thought that a wheel was faster. But now I got one it is disappointing. Respect to the wheel drivers.

Why other controller drivers not faster than me? I don't know. Maybe i'm sharper in the turns ?
I dont wake up and drive my record time, Its more like : driving 10.000 laps and hope you get 1 good....
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I'm slower with my wheel as well, it's currently put away, I think part of the problem is that I only have a TV tray to set it up on. But that's just me...lol
Practice and talent brother, that's why you are faster!!
 
Kossie
I play with my 2 thumbs. Thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it. But the wheel drivers are the real deal. I always thought that a wheel was faster. But now I got one it is disappointing. Respect to the wheel drivers.
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Trust me,you will be faster with a wheel.But not within a week or 2.
It took me 1/2 year when I made the transition to the wheel.
And it''s way more fun then using DS :lol:
 
Kossie
I play with my 2 thumbs. Thanks for the compliments. I appreciate it. But the wheel drivers are the real deal. I always thought that a wheel was faster. But now I got one it is disappointing. Respect to the wheel drivers.

Why other controller drivers not faster than me? I don't know. Maybe i'm sharper in the turns ?
I dont wake up and drive my record time, Its more like : driving 10.000 laps and hope you get 1 good....
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Wolf68
I'm slower with my wheel as well, it's currently put away, I think part of the problem is that I only have a TV tray to set it up on. But that's just me...lol
Practice and talent brother, that's why you are faster!!
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What kind of jokey wheel is that y'all have? For me it's like chalk and cheese. My G29 driving wheel has made my driving experience much better and my thumbs thank me for it. My thumbs, wrists and hands used to get serious cramp that wouldn't go away. No way I could go back to the thumbs controller again.
 
i think i'm always faster with my DS. The only way i can be faster is learning the manual gears. So first i go learn that. Anyway you wheel guys are great drivers.

Edit: David: Im used to a DS3. I have a wheel and drive with it but im a second slower with it. My hands are strong :lol:
 
Kossie
Well if i drive 1:17 lap here i believe you, But i think im always faster with my ds. The only thing i can more faster is learning the manual gears. So first i go learn that. Anyway you wheel guys are great drivers.
Edit: David: Im used to a DS3. I have a wheel and drive with it but im a second slower with it. My hands are strong :lol:
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You use those hands for other things don't you? :lol: Sonovagun.

Yeah bout learning the manual gears. All the tip top drivers use it and with most assists off.
I've tried using manual couple times but man when the driving is fast a furious combined with turns it's difficult for me to remain focussed hence I return to Auto. Less distraction. But I do know at some point in time I have to master manual gear if I want to improve. No two ways about it.
 
On tsukuba and the mazda race way im using manual. But that are the only 2 tracks where i know how to gearing. With manual gears maybe there is a low 1:13 in it here. But im not used to it.

And yes ofcourse i watch alot of porn to train my hands :lol::lol::lol:
 
Kossie
I never drive a real car in my life(only karting. So i don't think its talent. Practice is the key i think. With a wheel its talent. But me as a controller driver its pure practice i think. Set me in a real car or behind a wheel and i'm sucks. So i think everybody can set good times.

Wheel: you need talent. DS3: practice youre ass off :cheers:

Maybe i can get better lines as other drivers but i'm not sure for that. I'm a simple controller tt driver. Set me behind a wheel against Clifford in a stock car and he rape me....
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Wheel or DS3, this is the same deal, practice, practice and if it's not enough and still motivated, practice again and again.
if you are a DS3 user, the more you'll be used to play with (and the better you are), the worse will be the transition to the wheel, I know that feel :P
I only know one dude who was a beast with a pad and became an alien with a wheel, just like that, poof! :dunce:

like @Rikson , I had to work my a*s off to start to see something happening, and I don't talk about gaining half a sec haha, just being really used to drive with it.
 
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Kossie
i think i'm always faster with my DS. The only way i can be faster is learning the manual gears. So first i go learn that. Anyway you wheel guys are great drivers.

Edit: David: Im used to a DS3. I have a wheel and drive with it but im a second slower with it. My hands are strong :lol:
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Like people have said earlier, it takes time. When I first tried a wheel (I remember this very well, it was a Volvo C30 at grand valley speedway) I was over 2 seconds slower than I was with the DS3. You are on a higher level than I was then, so your transition will be even tougher. IMO if you have a wheel, try to move over now, the longer you wait the harder it will be.
Ofcourse you dont have to move over to a wheel, in many cases a DS3 can be just as fast if you have the skill. but some car/track combos will see you in a great disadvantage compared to wheel users.:)
 
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TRL_Andromeda
Like people has said earlier, it takes time. When I first tried a wheel (I remember this very well, it was a Volvo C30 at grand valley speedway) I was over 2 seconds slower than I was with the DS3. You are on a higher level than I was then, so your transition will be even tougher. IMO if you have a wheel, try to move over now, the longer you wait the harder it will be.
Ofcourse you dont have to move over to a wheel, in many cases a DS3 can be just GTas fast if you have the skill. but some car/track combos will see you in a great disadvantage compared to wheel users.:)
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gt Sport i go with a wheel. i go buy a good setup for it. That is my biggest problem. its not stable.
 
davidt33
What kind of jokey wheel is that y'all have? For me it's like chalk and cheese. My G29 driving wheel has made my driving experience much better and my thumbs thank me for it. My thumbs, wrists and hands used to get serious cramp that wouldn't go away. No way I could go back to the thumbs controller again.
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I had to move to a wheel - like you my wrists and hands got so sore, there was a danger they wouldn't recover (Repetitive Strain Injury according to the doctor).

Strangely, I found the wheel immediately faster than the DS3, took no getting used to at all (probably more natural as a result of driving 35,000 miles a year for 40 years.....).
 
bone_tone
I had to move to a wheel - like you my wrists and hands got so sore, there was a danger they wouldn't recover (Repetitive Strain Injury according to the doctor).

Strangely, I found the wheel immediately faster than the DS3, took no getting used to at all (probably more natural as a result of driving 35,000 miles a year for 40 years.....).
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Thank you. I rest my case m'lud.
 
Wolf68
I'm slower with my wheel as well, it's currently put away, I think part of the problem is that I only have a TV tray to set it up on. But that's just me...lol
Practice and talent brother, that's why you are faster!!
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I am faster with my wheel than my DS3, as you said it just comes down to how talented you are using a wheel or a DS3.
@Kossie must have a very good thumb control :cheers:.
 
bone_tone
I had to move to a wheel - like you my wrists and hands got so sore, there was a danger they wouldn't recover (Repetitive Strain Injury according to the doctor).

Strangely, I found the wheel immediately faster than the DS3, took no getting used to at all (probably more natural as a result of driving 35,000 miles a year for 40 years.....).
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Surely the wheel is faster. DS3 is very problematic during turns, especially when needing to make minute turns or when trying to avoid a kerb or a barrier. A small flick is required but surely compromises the driving line, speed during the turn or the braking line. Steering wheel gives a smoother approach in all sections.

I've never tried the wheel as my PS3 is in my bedroom & no space to deploy a wheel.
 
I can remember that day as well when i switched from pad to the wheel
I just needed 1h to run the same lap times as i run it before on the pad (tbh, i wasn't really that great using a pad on GT)
But after some couple of weeks later i was a lot faster at that moment compared playing it with my pad and i still improve myself nowadays
So it's always a good choice to play it with a wheel when u got the Chance :)
 
hotsaucer
I use my g27 wheel on my lap and it's really not a problem as I see it. It just takes many many hours to play around with wheel setting to find the most driveable setups
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Hey hotsaucer, are you saying that you change your wheel settings for every track and/or car? I'm guessing that there are multiple settings for a wheel (as compared to a controller that is)
 
TRL LIGHTNING
I can remember that day as well when i switched from pad to the wheel
I just needed 1h to run the same lap times as i run it before on the pad :)
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Yes because you are a great driver. If it was this easy everybody got top times with a wheel. You are in the top 10 drivers i think? In the most tt's im one of the best with the DS. I need more practice then you because i'm not so good as you. Maybe with the next GT and a good wheel standard i can make stable times. I dont know. Just enjoy the game :cheers:
 
Kossie
Yes because you are a great driver. If it was this easy everybody got top times with a wheel. You are in the top 10 drivers i think? In the most tt's im one of the best with the DS. I need more practice then you because i'm not so good as you. Maybe with the next GT and a good wheel standard i can make stable times. I dont know. Just enjoy the game :cheers:
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As i said
I wasn't that great with pad on gran turismo becauce i always have been around 300-500
But somehow i switched over to the wheel, i felt so comfortable with that so :D
And i always say that other drivers being really good with pad can be even better with using a wheel as well ^^
 
Kossie
i think i'm always faster with my DS. The only way i can be faster is learning the manual gears. So first i go learn that. Anyway you wheel guys are great drivers.

Edit: David: Im used to a DS3. I have a wheel and drive with it but im a second slower with it. My hands are strong :lol:
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As the advice you being given turn you ingorant by boast saying thumb controler over racing wheel. The pros dont tolerant the ingorant since you asked/begged what the setup/tuned is. Their advice already being told u but u refuse to believe or even attempt to.
 
wat???

Sinds i have a wheel i'm saying that i'm sucks with it. I tought a wheel was faster before i have one. Now i have one i think its still faster but i need to learn it.

Simple as 🤬. On one day i go make top times with my wheel, I just must to learn it. So whats you'r point??:crazy::crazy:

I have no good stable table or setup for it, Bit patient dudes.....
 
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I've always wanted to do a rant on this s The most important thing I've learned in this game is to not compare yourself to anyone.. only focus on improving yourself and be your own judge. Sometimes you will hit a wall and will not be able to improve, that's when you need to literally just sit and think critically (google critical thinking) of ways to improve and go and literally try them. If one continues to blame external circumstances, and not themselves, all of your efforts to improve will be extraneous. TT's in Gran Turismo are all about self improvement. For me I have been in top ten a few times and every time it was extremely difficult to do, spending multiple hours thinking of wheel settings, car tunes, body rigidity, sector times, driving lines, track limits etc, and the combinations of all those given factors. There are definitely things in the game I personally haven't thought or imagined of yet and the people who are capable of finding and using them are going to be faster players. Plan and simple my advice is to not copy other players, it won't make you better than them. Just do you.
 
hotsaucer
I've always wanted to do a rant on this s The most important thing I've learned in this game is to not compare yourself to anyone.. only focus on improving yourself and be your own judge. Sometimes you will hit a wall and will not be able to improve, that's when you need to literally just sit and think critically (google critical thinking) of ways to improve and go and literally try them. If one continues to blame external circumstances, and not themselves, all of your efforts to improve will be extraneous. TT's in Gran Turismo are all about self improvement. For me I have been in top ten a few times and every time it was extremely difficult to do, spending multiple hours thinking of wheel settings, car tunes, body rigidity, sector times, driving lines, track limits etc, and the combinations of all those given factors. There are definitely things in the game I personally haven't thought or imagined of yet and the people who are capable of finding and using them are going to be faster players. Plan and simple my advice is to not copy other players, it won't make you better than them. Just do you.
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You're right!!
 

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