All American Championship

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Which american car can be either won or bought to win the All American Championship race? I've got the late model camaro with 600+ hp and all I've finished in is 2nd place.
 
The Corba R comes to mind, I used that and some good driving. You will have a lot to make up, but you should be able to do it and mine was a 10k model too.
 
If by "late model Camaro" you mean the Camaro LM Race Car, then the reason you're not winning is that you're not driving well enough, to be frank. However, you may have been racing against the Panoz Esperante or Chaparral 2J, both of which are hard to beat. If you enter and exit the championship until you find a lineup without either of them, then you should be able to win in the Camaro.
 
And failing that, stick a Stage 4 turbo on the Camaro, give yourself 900hp and obliterate them for 1pt. each race. ;)
 
AMERICAN HALL

All American Championship

Series Race Prize Money 10,000 cr/Race, 35,000/Series
Prize Car: Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) ’54 (21,249cr)

1) 5 Laps Seattle Rolling Start
2) 5 Laps Infineon Sports Car Rolling Start
3) 4 Laps New York Rolling Start
4) 4 Laps El Capitan Reverse Grid Start
5) 5 Laps Laguna Seca Rolling Start

Having won this a couple of times in the Camaro LM, I decided to attempt it in a non-race-bodied car. Chose the Shelby Series 1 as I reckoned that it had the straight-line speed to do the job. However, the handling was appalling :eek:!

Fitted the following hardware:

Roll Cage and Racing Suspension
Custom Gearbox, Custom LSD, 3-Plate Clutch, Racing Flywheel and Carbon Driveshaft
Racing Brakes and Balancer
Racing Exhaust, Chip and Stage 1 NA Tune (Stage 2 NA Tune from Race 2 onwards)
Racing Tyres Grade 3

After a disappointing first go at the series, which was marred by a couple of spectacular wipe-outs due to the cars predilection for snap oversteer during braking, I settled on the following suspension settings:

Springs: 9.0/7.6
Ride: 99/99
Damper Bound: 6/5
Damper Rebound: 9/8
Camber: 2.0/1.0
Toe: 0/0
Stabaliser: 5/5
Brakes: 3/2
LSD: 10/30/30
Gearbox: Default

The LSD seemed to make a big difference to the car. I was running a 1.5 LSD unit before and simply dialling in the custom kit to an MR style setting made it much better. Also, I decided that the easiest thing to change was the driving style so I simply stopped turning the steering when braking, if at all possible.

Against a grid consisting of Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca ’00, Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II ’04, Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car ’98, Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race car ’63 and Ford GT40 Race Car ’90, I made pole at Seattle by over 3 seconds.

Previous experience has been that you need to pole by five seconds to take the win as the AI qualifies without HP upgrades and actually runs much faster in the race. Try it and see. A-Spec value 200. The Shelby bounces terribly up the hill jumps – I wonder if the front suspension was bottoming out there? Took a tight win over the Esperante with a BL of 1:31.6. The other cars were well back and I think that without the Esperante to introduce stress, this could be an easy ride.

I think the Esperante will be a problem unless I increase the Shelby’s horse-power, so I fit the Stage 2 NA tune, raising HP to 503 from 426. Took pole by 5.8 seconds but found that the increase NA tune made the snap-oversteer during braking much worse – I theorise that that’s simulated engine braking locking up the rears if you drop the throttle entirely? Won 200 A-Spec Race without getting bothered by the Esperante this time. BL 1:29.1

On to New York. Poled by 3 seconds – the Esperante’s speed is going to make it tough to win here, although’ I’m sure I can make it up in the twisty stuff. A-Spec 200. Won by 0.1 seconds with a punt up the backside from the Esperante propelling me over the finishing line :eek:!

El Capitan Reverse. This track gives me some trepidation as it seems full of the type of corners and bumps the Shelby dislikes. Poled by 1.9 seconds despite a little sideways action :scared:. Victory by 0.2 seconds or so. BL 1’42.213.

Laguna Seca. This will prove very interesting in the Shelby I reckon – I might experiment with raising the ride height if qualifying proves too hairy. Poled by 3.5 seconds and, not pushing that hard, the Shelby seems okay. Let’s see if she handles the race just as well. BL 1’24.423 and an easy win.
 
@ sukerkin/TOYO:
I think this needs qualification. I can tell it's copy/pasted from your notes, but newbies probably won't recognise this. There are two reasons why OP cannot expect to replicate these results:

1) sukerkin is an excellent driver and a phenomenal strategist. You'll need to be bloody good to do what he can do. Check the tunes on the ETZ page to see how good he is.

2) This is a 200pt tune. If OP can't do it at all, I don't like his chances of doing it for 200.

Probably don't need to say it, but this is in no way a criticism of your tuning skill, style or competence, sukerkin. It's just that i can imagine OP reading this (thinking it was written for this thread), modding and tuning the Shelby, then entering the first race where his hopes and dreams will be crushed within a minute because he is not (I presume) as talented and dedicated as you are. To summarise:

If you don't like one of sukerkin's cars, just keep practicing. It simply means you're (still) a **** driver.


Wow, I like that sentence, you should put it in your sig
 
Many thanks for the complimentary words, PF and you're quite right in that I should have elaborated more than I did on the background to what I posted in such haste :O.

I should also have realised the truth of how little use a 200pt 'solution' would be to someone just starting out - my apologies, TOYO.

It was a quick copy/paste before bed I'm embarassed to say, not that that is much of a defence. After all, pretty much Rule One on the Net is "Think before you post" :blush:.
 
It is possible in the Chaparral 2D too. You just need to get used to that RIDICULOUS transmission. You can tune it so that it virtually CANNOT be touched in the straights. You might struggle with the handling with speed setups for the 2D though...you can check the three hundred miles an hour setups for the 2D, so you can get help on speed...
 
By "ridiculous transmission," he probably means that it has three gears, as does the 2J, for that matter. But both cars will still accelerate well at low revs and shift pretty quickly. And that's not to mention that the super-tall gearing necessitated by the three-speed actually reduces wheelspin to the point that you can out-accelerate much more powerful cars out of corners, a very handy characteristic.
 
By "ridiculous transmission," he probably means that it has three gears, as does the 2J, for that matter. But both cars will still accelerate well at low revs and shift pretty quickly. And that's not to mention that the super-tall gearing necessitated by the three-speed actually reduces wheelspin to the point that you can out-accelerate much more powerful cars out of corners, a very handy characteristic.

But if you make the gear ratios too wide, it will barely have enough torques to move in first gear. Speaking of which, you could do an entire race in first gear with it! (Acceleration would be terrible, though.)
 
If I remember right, I used a Stock C5R and had very little problems.
In the past I have also used the Camaro LM edition car, the Ford GT LM (Both newer versions)

As with most races, its not a matter of HP, but taking the time to tune your car.
(There are quite a few set ups in theis area of the site) and learning where the fastetest line is on the track.
 
Well, I used the Camaro LM Race car. Bumped the hp up to around 900! Crushed the competition! That car is unbelievable when equipped with a stage 4 turbo!
 
*hums away in the corner in satisfaction of my answer being correct* Figjam boys. FIGJAM!! :D:D

If you don't know what FIGJAM means, google it up. ;)
 
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