Anyone became a NASCAR fan after playing GT5?

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maciej908
I know what you mean, watched the testing yesterday and only by drafting in pairs got around 195mph average, whereas single runs got around 186mph average...

PD got the speed wrong though 200mph should really be the limit...
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PD got the speed right. The cars in the game are plateless.




I'm a fan of every motorsport imaginable, but will always lean closer to NASCAR, Grand-Am, and ALMS/LMS. The game didn't make me a fan of anything since theres nothing left for me to be a fan of..

except maybe golf cart racing :/
 
I'm a fan of all types of motor racing but NASCAR is just something to watch when there is nothing else on TV. Petite LaMans is my favorite followed by F1.
 
Wedge598
I'm a fan of all racing but started as a NASCAR fan.

You should know however that the NASCAR racing depicted in GT5 is very unrealistic. I ran a NASCAR sim league for 6 years on the Papyrus game platforms on the PC. The physics in those sims are much more realistic. GT5 does a decent job of making the car feel heavy but the drafting is highly exagerated. In real life the cars at Daytona only reach about 198 MPH in a draft with the restrictor plates. In GT5 you can get up to 230 with a good bump. It's also a lot harder to wreck in GT5. At Indy the GT5 cars stick way too easily in the turns. You need to slow down a lot more in reality.

Despite all that, the overall experience of racing door to door is depicted well enough to convey the thrill of the sport. And I'm glad it's made you a fan!
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Not that it makes much of a difference but the NASCARs in GT5 do not have restrictor plates. They push 900hp in the game and in real life with restrictors they run roughly half that.
 
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Wedge598
I'm a fan of all racing but started as a NASCAR fan.

You should know however that the NASCAR racing depicted in GT5 is very unrealistic. I ran a NASCAR sim league for 6 years on the Papyrus game platforms on the PC. The physics in those sims are much more realistic. GT5 does a decent job of making the car feel heavy but the drafting is highly exagerated. In real life the cars at Daytona only reach about 198 MPH in a draft with the restrictor plates. In GT5 you can get up to 230 with a good bump. It's also a lot harder to wreck in GT5. At Indy the GT5 cars stick way too easily in the turns. You need to slow down a lot more in reality.

Despite all that, the overall experience of racing door to door is depicted well enough to convey the thrill of the sport. And I'm glad it's made you a fan!
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(In bold) That's probably because the cars don't have restrictor plates.
 
DMoss84
GT5 portraits NASCAR as a 200+mph motorsport. This is not the case anymore, as with the restrictor plates they are limited to roughly 190mph. I've seen faster street cars, by far, and owned a Grand Prix that would be capable of that speed. The 'sport' is boring to the informed viewer enthusiast with no misconceptions, unless he/she digs team-strategy over situational driver ability, or likes to see a good wreck (everyone - $$$). Indy/F1 series is real racing in my opinion (Boo on Danica for rolling over to the bucks offered by the lower end NASCAR league), and there's more 'skill' involved with lapping Laguna Seca in a 120hp Miata.
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I don't want to get into a long winded argument but, in my opinion, Indy racing is NASCAR without fenders.

Again, just my opinion.
 
Console racers having the audacity to think that their time spent playing a video game affords them the skill and knowledge to denigrate NASCAR race car drivers - too funny. Put yourself in an actual two-ton race car, actually going 190+ mph, actually racing, drafting, swapping, rubbing, bumping at that speed, with actual barriers and walls, and actually run a race for 500 miles. Even compared to ALL other forms of racing, NASCAR is a high skilled motorsport.

PD does a good job with their first stab at stock car racing. Some points to note:

-GT5 is a video game
-Racing Mediums and Softs have way too much grip to be considered realistic, but the game's tire model in general is so-so
-there aren't restrictor plates in GT5
-drafting in the game is completely unrealistic
 
One thing that bothers me is if they got the NASCAR 2010 license why not make more cars, as they're all either a ford, toyota, chevrolet or dodge... just with different paintjobs... :S
 
I don't mind Nascar despite the terrible handling (it's because of the ballast weight, so it's realistic). I really don't like Jeff Gordon anymore. After the special events i'm sick of his voice!
 
maciej908
One thing that bothers me is if they got the NASCAR 2010 license why not make more cars, as they're all either a ford, toyota, chevrolet or dodge... just with different paintjobs... :S
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They got the license to use the NASCAR brand name, all the nascar models in the game came from:

Stewart/Haas Racing
Hendrick Motorsports
Joe Gibbs Racing
Roush/Fenway Racing
RPM/Yates Racing
Dale Earnhardt Incorperated/Chip Ganassi Racing

With permission by the drivers. Why theres no fantasy models, I don't know but maybe NASCAR's stipulation was that only real 2010 stock cars be used in the game.
 
I could not say i am/was a fan of NASCAR to me it looks like 12 duckilings stuck up each others gluteus maximus going around a circuit trying to avoid the big bad wolf. Each trying not to be last and picked off. I can't find any enjoyment in an unpleasurable waddle even on a lazy Sunday morning with nothing else to do.
 
I used to think they're boring, and doesn't need half the talent you'd need for open wheel racing. Also, I never thought the cars would actually be relatively fast in tight corners.

After GT5, I still think it's very boring to watch but I understand that they're actually hard to drive. Still not close to how hard open wheel race cars are to drive, but harder than I thought. The cars also turned out to deliver decent performance on tight tracks..
 
Bring quantifiable tech with claims such as, "doesn't need half the talent you'd need for open wheel racing." This is debatable and ultimately not true.
 
freight48
I don't want to get into a long winded argument but, in my opinion, Indy racing is NASCAR without fenders.

Again, just my opinion.
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LOL!! I can't believe you posted this. I say that to my wife all the time!! LOL That's just too funny! I used to be a hard core nascar fan, was for about 20 yrs.
Nascar has kinda ruined nascar!! That's all I'm saying other than the game didn't make me wanna be a nascar fan again..
 
Actually having nascar in the game didn't do anything for me at all. After racing all the races including three of the A spec endurance races I'm getting bored with the game. GT5 just wasn't what I was expecting it to be. I mean you have to play an entire B Spec section in the game? C'mon. that's very boring.....
I've been playing GT since GT1 and this one is the worst.....Just saying
 
maciej908
I started watching the race recaps and yesterday stumbled on the winter testing free streaming live on NASCAR.com...

I know more about the rules and stuff... it's different than F1 but it's racing like no other...

Best thing about the cars though - the sound... I've got a surround system in my room... and when the Ford Fusion NASCAR is started OMG... I can listen to it all day...
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macie you need to see it in person, i was brought to NASCAR races as a kid but I never turned into a fan. (I'm an F1 fan) But yes, the in person sound of a NASCAR blowing by you at 150 MPH is like no other, I definately love the throaty sound of that v8 at 9,000 rpm.
 
I just turned on the TV and to my amazement there was a NASCAR documentary on...I think it was called Talladega Nights or something (I didn't know Alonso drove NASCAR!). Suddenly I understand. NASCAR is amazing. Bake 'n' Shake. Go Bobby Ricky Go!!

Seriously. That was the best bit of self-ironic American comedy I've seen in a long time! The timing (with this thread) was great. Kudos NASCAR. The cast list could have been from a documentary, with Dale Earnheart Jr etc appearing as themselves, and even David Lowe as an uncredited Bar Patron...lol

Seriously worth watching if you really want to understand NASCAR.
 
If you want a proper nascar parody, watch stroker ace.

If you want to understand most of how the sport works, watch days of thunder.


Talladega Nights, like all Will Farrell movies about any given sport, is just funny for the sake of being funny. It doesn't really parody anything.
 
Shinzah
If you want a proper nascar parody, watch stroker ace.

If you want to understand most of how the sport works, watch days of thunder.


Talladega Nights, like all Will Farrell movies about any given sport, is just funny for the sake of being funny. It doesn't really parody anything.
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I get that...but I'm not really a fan, on the contrary, but I do have a new respect. Talladega Nights seems about at our level...Zen and the Art of NASCAR driving...lol. I wasn't out to insult anyone.
 
maciej908
One thing that bothers me is if they got the NASCAR 2010 license why not make more cars, as they're all either a ford, toyota, chevrolet or dodge... just with different paintjobs... :S
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In order for PD to do that, they would have to spend a bunch of time trying to get the licenses/copyrights of each of the sponsors for more/every car.
 
If anything GT5 makes Nascar seem more shallow than it really is imo.

In the special events you are told to draft in order to win, that was really fun until you realize you are only being hold back by some aids, turn it off and you are passing cars here and there, PD didn't do the franchise justice.

I am a road racing fan and I enjoy watching Nascar on Montreal or the Glen, however oval is never my thing.
 
In reply to the OPs question; yes, I am a fan of NASCAR now and I wasn't before I played GT5.

I HATED NASCAR and was of the opinion (as most English/British/Europeans are) that NASCAR is just driving round in circles.

"durr, stoopid mericans going round and round for 10 hours hurr durr durr"

Not anymore though. I have a good respect for NASCAR now and can't wait to catch it when it's on TV over here.
 

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