Finished (ATCC) Australian Touring Car Championship | NW48 & Aaroh007 Are Your Driver's Champions!!!

Discussion in 'GT6 Racing Series' started by NW48, Dec 30, 2014.

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Which Day/Time Would You Like This To Take Place?

Poll closed Apr 26, 2015.
  1. Friday 19:00 GMT+10 // 9:00 GMT

    17.9%
  2. Friday 20:00 GMT+10 // 10:00 GMT

    10.7%
  3. Friday 21:50 GMT+10 // 11:50 GMT

    3.6%
  4. Friday 22:45 GMT+10 // 12:45 GMT+10

    17.9%
  5. Saturday 10:00 GMT+10 // (Saturday) 12:00 GMT

    21.4%
  6. Saturday 12:00 GMT+10 // 2:00 GMT

    14.3%
  7. Saturday 19:00 GMT+10 // 9:00 GMT

    35.7%
  8. Saturday 20:00 GMT+10 // 10:00 GMT

    17.9%
  9. Saturday 21:50 GMT+10 // 11:50 GMT

    25.0%
  10. Friday 16:00 GMT+10 // 6:00 GMT

    3.6%
  11. Sunday 10:30 GMT+10 // 12:30 GMT

    28.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. NW48

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    Australian Touring Car Championship

    This series is a throwback to the heyday of Australian Touring Cars with a vision for the future and a modern twist using a slightly modified version of the new "Gen2 Supercars" regulations coming into the V8 Supercars in 2017.

    In this championship, my fellow series organiser's and I are striving to achieve ultimate professionalism while ensuring that everyone who par takes in this series will have a thoroughly enjoyable time with high levels of competition. It is for that reason we will allow up to 26 people to join our series and race competitively throughout.

    There will be 2 categories. The two categories are Group A & Group B;
    Group A;

    Nissan GTR '07
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Flat Floor- Type A
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_3.jpg 0/4 Available (FULL)

    Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) '14
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Flat Floor- Type A
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_7.jpg 0/4 Available (FULL)

    Ford Mustang BOSS 302 '13
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kits- Type B
    Flat Floor- Type A
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_5.jpg
    2/4 Available

    Group B;
    Lexus IS F '07
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Flat Floor- Type A
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_6.jpg 0/4 Available (FULL)

    Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Flat Floor- Type A
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar.jpg
    3/4 Available

    BMW M4 Coupe'
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_1.jpg 2/4 Available

    Hyundai Genesis Coupe' 3.8 Track '13
    Rims-
    OZ Racing Superforgiata
    Aero Kit- Type B
    Custom Rear Wing- F, D, D (Max Height, Width)
    Gemasolar_2.jpg
    4/4 Available


    General Rules & Expectations
    As with all championships, there are rules and expectations regarding all things from track limits to race craft. The following is a summary of general rules & expectations that you can expect when competing in this championship;


    Track Limits
    Track Limits in this championship will be dictated by the white line that surrounds the track. In the case of kerbs & ripplestrips, track limits will be extended to the inside edge of the kerb, or in the case of ripplestrips, the outside edge of the ripplestrip. You will be infringing on this rule if you put more than 2 wheels over that white line or kerb and gain an advantage.

    Track limits will be observed in all races, failure to observe this rule will result in a time penalty added to your finishing time unless you self-adress the infringement by slowing to erase any advantage gained.


    Race Craft (Contact of Cars)
    Rubbing is racing, so contact of cars in this championship will be rather relaxed as long as it does not hinder a drivers progress, it will not result in a penalty. Any contact that hinders progress or is deliberate, will result in a time penalty that will be added to your finishing time.



    Passing (Divebombing, etc)

    Divebombing, is strictly illegal and will not be tolerated. If it is reported or seen that you have employed the said technique, you will be facing a time penalty.

    The 3 quarter car rule will be in place to ensure this does not happen.


    Appeals/Complaints
    Any complaints or appeals over a decision made must be directed to the officials of the round.the series officials will be announced closer to the start of the championship start.


    Safety Car
    In our pursuit for professionalism, a safety car will be in use for some rounds. The safety car will be the BMW M4 Performance Edition with the equipped light bar. We do need a driver for that role for it to go ahead.


    Australian Touring Car Championship Season Calendar

    1. Tokyo 200 (Tokyo R246) // 2x 23 Laps // 1 Mandatory Pitstop

    2. Indianapolis Road Course // 2x 19 Laps

    3. Midfield Raceway 150 // 2x 20 Laps // 1 Mandatory Pit Stop

    4. London & Brands Hatch GP 250 (London Street Circuit & Brands Hatch GP) // Double Header // TBA

    5. Circuit di Roma // 2x 24 Laps // 1 Mandatory Pit Stop


    7. German Grand Prix // Nurburgring GP/F // 1x 90min Sprints // 1 Mandatory Pit Stop

    8. British Grand Prix // Silverstone Grand Prix // 1x 90min Sprints // 1 Mandatory Pit Stop

    9. Suzuka Dash for Points // Suzuka Grand Prix Circuit 2014 // 5x 7 Laps

    10. Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit // 2x 16 Laps // 1 Mandatory Pitstop


    11. Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca // 2x 28 Laps // 1 Mandatory Pitstop

    ENDURO CUP

    1. Motegi 620 // ATCC Enduro Cup Round 3 // 6hrs

    2. Gran Turismo 500 // ATCC Enduro Cup Round 1 (Apricot Hill) // 4.5

    3. Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 // ATCC Enduro Cup Finale' // 1x 1000km Enduro // 2 Mandatory Pitstops

    Series Officials
    Series Manager/Founder: @NW48
    Co-Series Manager: @David Talle
    Stewards: @NW48, @David Talle, @Timlour


    Points System (Drivers/Manufacturers/Teams)
    Group A;

    1st: 16pts
    2nd: 12pts
    3rd: 10pts
    4th: 8pts
    5th: 6pts
    6th: 4pts
    7th: 2pts
    8th/DNS/DNF: 0pts

    Group B;
    1st: 16pts
    2nd: 12pts
    3rd: 10pts
    4th: 8pts
    5th: 6pts
    6th: 4pts
    7th: 2pts
    8th/DNS/DNF: 0pts


    Driving Aids/Room Settings
    For Group A;
    Skid Recovery Force (SRF)- OFF
    Active Stability Management (ASM)- OFF
    TCS- Max. 1
    ABS- ON
    Tyres- Will vary between events
    Driving Line- Optional

    For Group B;
    Skid Recovery Force (SRF)- OFF
    Active Stability Management (ASM)- OFF
    TCS- Max. 1
    ABS- ON
    Tyres- Will vary between events
    Driving Line- Optional

    Wildcard Entry
    A Wildcard Entry is able to use a car that is FULL but cannot do more than 50% of the season. This is the perfect option for people who cannot commit fully to the season. As they are able to use a car that is FULL, they are ineligible for Manufacturer Points.​

    Team Championship
    Teams of up to 2 are allowed to be formed to compete in the Teams Championship. Teams must be 1 manufacturer and not mixed. To start a team, please leave your team entry like this;
    Team Name // Who's In It


    Manufacturers Championship
    There will be a manufacturers championship, but to keep it fair, only the highest finishing car of each manufacturer will get points.


    Independents
    An independent, or a single-car team, does not have a multiple-car team and is unable to score points for the team championship but can score points for the manufacturers championship. If you wish to be an independent, please state so in your driver entry.

    If you are interested in joining this series as a racer, please leave your interest I the following;
    GTP ID // PSN ID // No. Of Car // Car of Choice // Colour // Your Timezone​
     
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  2. NW48

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    Driver List
    1. NW48 // Ninth_wonder48 // #48 // Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) (TBC) // Yellow Tincoat // AEST (GMT +10)
    2.
    3. Pubs16 // pubes16 // 16 // Nissan GT-R // Teal // AEST (GMT +10)
    4. David Talle // ElCondensator // #92 // BMW M4 Coupè // GMT +1
    5. WanganGhost // WanganGhost // 17 // BMW M4 // Alpine White // PST (-7)
    6.
    7. Pringles947 // PSN ID // #94 // TBA // matte light red // AEST (GMT +10)
    8.
    9.
    10. GTPvw_slc // SLC_VR6_V-Dub // 28 // Lexus IS-F // TBD // EST
    11.
    12. Swiftsmith // smith1001 // 6 // Ford Mustang Boss 302 // TBA // EST
    13.
    14.
    15. Timlour // Timlour // Corvette Stingray // 77 // EST
    16. Tijee // Tijee31 // 87 // BMW M4 // Blue // GMT+1
    17. Doomstorm16 // doomstorm16 // Nissan GT-R // #16 // Black
    18. 1996mikey2412 // mikey_2412 // 24 // Nissan GT-R // Jet Black // GMT
    19. Jordiehamz // jordiehamz // #7 // Lexus IS-F // storm black // AEST (GMT +11)
    20. Hayden // Haydenmc14 // #14 // Corvette // Galaxy Blue // +9.30 GMT
    21. Ph1sher // GTP_Ph7shr // #39 // Nissan GT-R // Blue w/ chrome blue rims // Eastern Time
    22. NinjaEvo // NinjitsuEvolved // #76 // Corvette // Black Amethyst // GMT




    Wildcard Entries
    1. FutureF1 // FutureF1 // 54 // Corvette C7 // Yellow // EST
    2. DaGiBUS // BlueXephos22 // BMW M4 Coupe // Matte White // #15
    3. mustafur // Mustafur //#47 // GT-R // Orange // +10
    4. LITTLEBLACKO // LITTLEBLACKO // #__ // Metallic Silver // GMT+10
    5. Beau Albert // BeauAlbert6 // #__ // GT-R // TBC // GMT+10
    6. J_Cameron // Subaru_WRX_622 // 22 // 07 Nissan GTR // Black // PST

    Safety Car Driver/s
    1. @Wavey2014


    --

    GRASS-ROOTS CHALLENGE DRIVER LIST
    1. NW48 // Blue // #48
    2. WanganGhost // Sunburst Yellow // #17
    3. Aaroh007 // Lime Light // #44
    4. DaGiBUS // Matte White // #15
    5. Hayden // Black // #14
    6. Timlour // GT6 Polarised 031 // #31
    7. smith1001 // Brillanot // #6
    8.
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    10.
     
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  3. NW48

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    Car Specs/Parts
    GROUP A

    Corvette-
    Stage 1 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Power Limiter- 82.4%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    76kg worth of Ballast

    597PP // 567BHP // 1321KG

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    Mustang-
    Stage 2 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Supercharger
    Power Limiter- 91.8%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet (Either Body Colour or not)
    Window Weight Reduction
    0kg worth of Ballast

    617PP // 685BHP // 1,319KG

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    GT-R -
    Stage 2 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Power Limiter- 74.8%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet (Either Body colour or not)
    Window Weight Reduction
    0kg worth of Ballast

    597PP // 540BHP // 1394KG

    ---

    GROUP B

    C63-
    Stage 1 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Power Limiter- 84.3%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    49kg worth of ballast

    575PP // 555BHP // 1450KG

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    Genesis-
    Stage 1 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Mid-RPM Range Turbo Kit
    Power Limiter- 93.0%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    139kg worth of Ballast

    551PP // 560BHP // 1400KG

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    IS-F -
    Stage 1 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Power Limiter- 74.4%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    186kg worth of Ballast

    565PP // 505BHP // 1500KG

    ---

    M4 Coupe'-
    Stage 1 Engine
    Sports Computer
    Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning
    Power Limiter: 72.0%

    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    158kg worth of Ballast

    532PP // 455BHP // 1,400KG

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  4. NW48

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    ATCC MEDIA

    'Driver-In-Focus' Interview Archive
    1. @Pubs16
    2. @WanganGhost


    Pre-Race Press Conference Archive
    1. Round 1 | Tokyo


    Post-Race Press Conference Archive
    1. Round 3 | Mid-Field Raceway


    ATCC POINTS STANDINGS
    (After Round 10 of 11)


    OVERALL CHAMPIONSHIP
    1st- @NW48 - 174pts
    2nd- @Timlour - 144pts
    3rd- @Mikey24 - 132pts
    4th- @Aaroh007 - 128pts
    5th- @mustafur - 124pts
    6th- @Pubs16 - 112pts
    7th- @Jordiehamz - 104pts
    8th- @WanganGhost - 82pts
    9th- @David Talle - 82pts
    10th- @gkgamer - 68pts
    11th- @Tijee - 50pts
    12th- @LITTLEBLACKO - 48pts
    13th- @Beau Albert - 36pts
    14th- @Pringles947 - 32pts
    15th- @NinjaEvo - 30pts
    16th- @Doomstorm16 - 24pts
    17th- @swiftsmith - 16pts
    18th- @Matvex - 16pts
    19th- @David Talle (GROUP A) - 12pts
    20th- @Thomas__633 - 12pts
    21st- @Ph1sher - 6pts
    22nd- @J_Cameron - 6pts
    23rd- @Hayden - 6pts
    24th- @RESHIRAM5 - 6pts
    25th- @lxmmy - 6pts

    GROUP A
    1st- @NW48 - 174pts
    2nd- @Timlour - 144pts
    3rd- @Mikey24 - 132pts
    4th- @mustafur - 124pts
    5th- @Pubs16 - 112pts
    6th- @Beau Albert - 36pts
    7th- @NinjaEvo - 30pts
    8th- @Doomstorm16 - 24pts
    9th- @swiftsmith - 16pts
    @Matvex - 16pts
    10th- @David Talle - 12pts
    11th- @Ph1sher - 6pts
    @J_Cameron - 6pts
    @Hayden - 6pts


    GROUP B
    1st- @Aaroh007 - 128pts
    2nd- @Jordiehamz - 104pts
    3rd- @WanganGhost - 82pts
    @David Talle - 82pts
    4th- @gkgamer - 68pts
    5th- @Tijee - 50pts
    6th- @LITTLEBLACKO - 48pts
    7th- @Pringles947 - 32pts
    8th- @Thomas__633 - 12pts
    8th- @lxmmy - 6pts
    @RESHIRAM5 - 6pts


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    ATCC Manufacturer's Championship Points Standings

    GROUP A
    1st - Chevrolet - 354pts
    2nd - Nissan - 274pts
    3rd - Ford - 44pts

    *Remember that WildCards are ineligible for Manufacturer points

    GROUP B
    1st - Lexus - 350pts
    2nd - BMW - 182pts
    3rd - Mercedes-Benz AMG - 80pts
    4th - Hyundai - 6pts

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    ATCC Teams Championship Points Standings

    1st - Russian Roulette Racing* - 318pts
    2nd- Masala Tsunami Racing - 232pts
    3rd - RaceOnOz - 154pts
    4th - Jet Black Mafia - 138pts

    *To maintain a tight championship, only the top two cars from a 3-car team earn points towards their team.

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    ATCC Independent Championship Points Standings

    1st - UNC Motorsports - 112pts
    2nd - R-Sport Ireland - 82pts
    On Strike Racing - 82pts
    3rd - Jordie Motorsport* (*Now Defunct)- 50pts
    4th - Team Chill Racing - 50pts
    5th- Dragon Razer Racing - 48pts
    6th- Pringles Racing - 32pts
    7th- Matvex Racing - 16pts
    8th- DreamCast Racing Services - 12pts
    9th - BMW UK Motorsports - 6pts
    TierOne Racing - 6pts
    Tectonic Taipan Racing - 6pts
    Galaxy Racing - 6pts
     
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  5. Aphelion

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    You really thought this through didn't you! Excellent job! I would love to join in, but i am not sure how reliable i can be. Also, what is BoP testing? Did i miss read something? :boggled:

    For now, i would like to be a racer. If i am an idiot and didn't read something, my bad.

    Chameleon9000 // Chameleon9000 // 13 // BMW M4 Coupe' (probably) // Black/Red // Australian Eastern Standard Time (GMT + 10)

    EDIT: Oh and also, being a safety car sounds awesome.
     
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  6. V8-Johnboy

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    Balance Of Power getting the cars closely matched in other words. :)
     
  7. NW48

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    Thanks, I've still got a bit to go actually! No matter how slow or fast you are, you are more than welcome! I hope to have a bit more added to the OP tomorrow morning in regards of maximum specs for each group and so on. Glad to have you aboard, Chameleon9000!
     
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  8. Aphelion

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    Ah i was wondering about specs. It occurred to me that you could be referring to each car as completely stock, then i saw the 86 in the same category as the M4 and such.
    That actually sounds kind of fun to do! I might sign up for that too then!

    Chameleon9000 // Chameleon9000 // BoP Tester // Group B

    You will have to message me about when this stuff is going to happen, as i have said i could be quite unreliable. :)
     
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  9. NW48

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    I'll wait to gather a few more testers before we begin testing so we can test these cars through a variety of different drivers so we can get the parity right instead if realising it may be a bit off mid-season, tarnishing the championship. As I said earlier, it's great to have you aboard, both as a racer and a BoP tester!
     
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  10. NW48

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    If we do not have at least 5 entries by the end of the week, this series will be postponed until further notice.
     
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  11. Pubs16

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    This sounds sweet! Massive Supercars fan so I'm keen for a replica/spin off championship :). Sign me up (depending on time slot, obviously you haven't decided on that yet forgive me if I missed it), let's hope you can get a few more!

    Pubs16 // pubes16 // 16 // Nissan GTR // Teal // AEST (GMT +10)
     
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  12. NW48

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    Great to have you aboard! Once we have around 10 people signed up, I'll start a poll for time preferences so we can start either late January or mid-February! :)
     
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  13. Timlour

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    @NW48 I'll be a BoP tester for Group A.

    Timlour // Timlour // BoP Tester // Group A
     
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  14. NW48

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    Thanks, Tim!
     
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    No problem! Just one question, when we start testing, will you create rooms where all BoP testers can join, or do we test individually?
     
  16. NW48

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    We'll begin BoP testing sometime next week once I find out the problem with my PS3, I'm suspecting that it is the power cable so it'll be a quick, cheap & easy fix.

    It'll be in one room with some testing done individually if you feel like it. :)
     
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  17. David Talle

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    Group B will be tough to balance I think !
    I'll try to be there for testing.
     
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  18. NW48

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    I'll add you in tomorrow, I keep forgetting to do so! :dunce:
     
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  19. WanganGhost

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    I'd love to be a racer please

    WanganGhost // WanganGhost // 17 // BMW M4 // Alpine White // PST (-7)
    One quick Question. What day/days will you be running the series.
     
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  20. NW48

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    Once we finish BoP testing and get around 10 entrants, I'll start up a poll to determine the day and time. Thanks for joining the series!
     
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  21. NW48

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    We'll begin testing sometime this week with a date and time to be determined.
     
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  22. Pubs16

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    I'm not very familiar with BoP testing, but if it's fits in to some free time I could be keen to give the specs a run with you guys :).
     
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  23. RESHIRAM5

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    I'm very interested. I'll get back to you on it.

    Also, I can't find the time for the races :/.
     
  24. NW48

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    This one is currently a work in progress with times to be determined, my main series, the (GTOR) IFFC (link in my sig) is the one that has a set time in the morning, I should've stated that in my comment, my bad!
     
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  25. NW48

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    I'll be hosting a BoP and general test session on Saturday at 1pm GMT +0/Saturday at 11pm AEST. I'll be hosting it in the Club Lobby of the GTPlanet GT6 Community Club. Hope to see you there!
     
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  26. RESHIRAM5

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    I'll still keep an eye on this to see if the time is suitable.
     
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  27. NW48

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    I'll leave a spot reserved for you if you want?
     
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  28. RESHIRAM5

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    That would be nice :tup:.
     
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  29. NW48

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    Cool, just need you to fill in this entry sheet below and you'll be set to have a spot reserved;
    GTP ID // PSN ID // No. Of Car // Car of Choice (Optional) // Colour // Your Timezone
     
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  30. RESHIRAM5

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    RESHIRAM5//cyan-yoshi5//5//Hyundai Genesis//Black w/ Cyan Rims//AEDT +11
     
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