Automobilista 2 - Discussion Thread

[zaxs]

I was playing Time Trials for 2hrs and I'm totally impressed with this game!
In modern times, never played so good fully racing themed simulation...

Here are few screenshots I took:

 

[Beezer215]

Mid-Ohio for AMS2

[ATTACH] Following up on the release of the world's first original track mod for a Madness Engine game, I present the world's second original track...

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[zaxs]

Mid-Ohio for AMS2

[ATTACH] Following up on the release of the world's first original track mod for a Madness Engine game, I present the world's second original track...

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Hope that modders will get better tool, bcs this is not looking good - not taking deserved greets to author.

 

[greenlightning]

P3 - Roco 001

Still one of the best cars in the game. Drivers view is fantastic.

P1 also has some of the best closed cockpit driver views since the driver is centered in the car. Can easily see both right and left mirror for closed cockpit car.

 

[zaxs]

P3 - Roco 001

Still one of the best cars in the game. Drivers view is fantastic.

Didn't tried it yet.
I drive with cocpit camera and there are a lot of great looking cars!

 

[zaxs]

Here are few more screenshots:

Great, great game!

 

[Grestok]

I started playing it 2 days ago. And it's a fantastic game that runs on my Steam Machine in 60 fps 1440p with all the graphics options at maximum ! 🤩

 

[guybo]

It's been a while since I have come to GT Planet. I just kind of stopped coming.

I have to say- I am shocked and appalled that PMR gets a sub-forum and AMS2- a game and a sim that are objectively FAR SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY to that other POS (it is not even on the same level)- gets a couple of threads. WTF?

 

[Beezer215]

It's been a while since I have come to GT Planet. I just kind of stopped coming.

I have to say- I am shocked and appalled that PMR gets a sub-forum and AMS2- a game and a sim that are objectively FAR SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY to that other POS (it is not even on the same level)- gets a couple of threads. WTF?

I hear you. This site is more geared towards the console gamey crowd though. PMR is on console.
Plus there's better sites or forums that exist for more sim oriented titles. For AMS2, Reiza's own forums are tough to beat. Also Overtake get's some traffic for AMS2.
Also, I hate to say it, but Discord is very active for AMS2. Although Discord is completely abhorrent. To me at least. And you can tell that some of the moderators were completely picked on as kids in school because the amount of gatekeeping and pseudo rule "following" is ridiculous, but there's good conversation in there at least.

 

[greenlightning]

Been on vacation for over a week. Currently have my gaming monitor at another table at my place for other reasons. Have done quite a few AMS2 sessions just using steam and big steam or whatever it is called with controller. It actually works decent and good enough that if not enough space etc for a wheel set-up no worries.
Or if you take your gaming laptop on vacation with HDMI cable to get your racing fix.

Caught the last half of Indy at Laguna was a good race.

Turn off opposite lock assist - even with controller for best car control. With the other settings adjusted to your preference. This seems to work best. I would say in general feels good. Hard braking or braking mid corner is most challenging.

Back to my wheel next weekend.

 

[Jezza819]

I've had a bit of difficulty with the AI for a long time now. I've had aggression set at medium. The AI will make late dives into corners. Will make late blocking moves. They will brake check you in the middle of slower corners. Push you over off the track on a straight. If you've out braked them coming into a corner they are likely to just run into you. Just all kinds of nonsense.

Last night it was a big problem. I was trying to run a F1 V10 Gen 2 race at Barcelona 1991. AI strength set at 90, 10 laps, medium aggression, starting in 10th. After 16 restarts and it was nearly midnight, I just gave up trying to finish that race. 2 of those were my fault. I ran too long into turn 1 once and went off track and once I locked up going into turn 5 and slid straight off.

But outside of those two times it was clashes with the AI that ended all of those races. They would run into me after I out braked them into turn 1, they would brake check between 7 & 8 causing a collision, slow down at turn 12 causing a collision, etc.

So today when I went back to the game I thought I would put aggression on low and see what that did. I didn't run that F1 V10 at first so I tried it in some other classes. I ran a Maserati Trofeo race, a GT3 race, and a 90's F1 race. The AI felt much better. Wasn't making those late diving and blocking moves. Didn't crash into me while I was trying to pass. So I went back and ran that same F1 V10 Gen 2 race at 1991 Barcelona. Finished it in one attempt that time. Racing was much cleaner and seemed more fair. So I'm going to leave it on low for the time being to see if it stays good and that wasn't just a one day thing.

 

[Beezer215]

Pay-nose.

Automobilista 2 September 2026 Development Update

[ATTACH] Greetings everyone! We are on the verge of a new update for Automobilista 2, packing many substantial gameplay & simulation improvements as...

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[Alfa Romeo GT]

A free car !
Panoz Esperante GTR-1.

AI updated (even if we will have big improve for 1.7 this year)
New difficulty options.

And other things

Great !
I am looking forward for 1.7.

 

[Alfa Romeo GT]

Update is OUT

Automobilista 2 V1.6.9.95 is Now Live! The new update packs many substantial gameplay & simulation improvements as well as a free new car - the Panoz Esperante GTR-1.

Users who for whatever reason encounter issues with the new V1.6.9.95 upon release or who might have an imminent league race to run may still remain on the previous V1.6.9.91 by right-clicking on AMS2 in the Steam library -> Properties -> Beta and selecting the previousbuild branch.

AI TRACTION & BRAKE SKILL SCALARS


AMS2 V1.6.9.95 introduces the new AI Traction Skill & AI Brake Skill Scalars - like the existing AI Wet Skill Scalar, these serve to scale AI performance specifically in traction and braking zones; users can adjust these settings in order to trim the AI performance to their preference and / or to better suit their own driving style: late brakers might find worthwhile running a higher AI Brake Skill Scalar combined with a lower AI Traction Skill Scalar, resulting in AI drivers tending to brake later into corners and accelerate slower out of them than they otherwise would at the default settings 1.0 Scalar.


Unlike the AI Wet Scalar, the Traction and Brake Scalars are not very sensitive; you may need bigger adjustments to get noticeable results as traction and braking performance are still primarily defined by the main AI Skill setting; the new options serve to trim the AI´s traction and brake performance, rather than define it.

Please beware that running very high or inversely proportionate scalars relative the main AI Skill setting is generally not recommended and may result in an increased rate of AI incidents.


AI DYNAMIC DRY & WET LINES

This is a list of track layouts featuring manually crafted alternative dry paths and / or wet AI paths; the alternative dry path along with the primary path a range of viable dry lines the AI drivers may take when running without interference from traffic, the wet path defines the ideal line when the track is fully wet; these manually crafted paths are generally more organic than the self-generated ones that are used for all tracks not included in the list below:

• Barcelona 1991
• Barcelona 1999
• Barcelona 2001
• Barcelona GP (Modern)
• Barcelona National
• Bathurst (Modern)
• Brands Hatch GP
• Brands Hatch Indy
• Daytona Road Course
• Gateway Oval
• Fontana Oval
• Hockenheim GP (Modern)
• Hockenheim 2001
• Hungaroring
• Indianapolis 2001 Oval
• Indianapolis Oval
• Imola 1972
• Imola 1988
• Imola 2001
• Imola 2005
• Imola (Modern)
• Interlagos 1976
• Interlagos 1991
• Interlagos 1993
• Interlagos GP
• Interlagos SCB
• Jacarepagua 1988
• Jacarepagua Oval
• Kansai GP
• Kyalami 1976
• Kyalami (Modern)
• Laguna Seca
• Le Mans 2005
• Le Mans 2023
• Le Mans Bugatti
• Monza 2005
• Monza (Modern)
• Montreal (Modern)
• Nurburgring GP 2020
• Nurburgring GP 2025
• Pocono Oval
• Road Atlanta 2005
• Road Atlanta (Modern)
• Sebring
• Silverstone (Modern)
• Spa-Francorchamps 1993
• Spa-Francorchamps 2005
• Spa-Francorchamps 2005 EC
• Spa-Francorchamps 2020
• Spa-Francorchamps 2022
• Spielberg GP 2001
• Spielberg GP (Modern)
• Watkins Glen GP
• Watkins Glen Short Chicane

Please note that the logic for when, where and how AI drivers should pursue alternative dry lines is still in development, with little of it being enabled for this release for the sake of reliability; most of the value from this feature will arrive with AMS2 V1.7 later on the year.
The logic for how the AI should use the wet lines is in turn already at a more elaborate state, so dry-wet-dry races are currently a better reference of the improved AI dynamics one may expect once these developments are fully integrated.


V1.7 PHYSICS REVISIONS

As of V1.6.9.95, most classes have either had their full V1.7 physics revisions or have them at a very advanced state; the exceptions that (either only partially revised or not revised at all) are listed below:

• GT Classics
• TC Vintages (Tier 1 & 2)
• TSI Cup
• Caterham 620R
• Caterham Academy
• Karting classes
• Rallycross
• Opala 1979 Stock Cars
• Opala 1986 Stock Cars
• Opala Old Stock
• Omega 1999 Stock Car
• Super Trophy Truck
• Copa Truck

V1.6.9.91-> V1.6.9.95 CHANGELOG

CONTENT

• Added Panoz Esperante GTR-1 to GT1 Class

GENERAL

• Added 'Same Class' private qualifying option for all game modes
• Made qualifying rules user configurable for single race and Multiplayer events without requiring presets
• Improved CPU performance during transitions between weather slots
• Fixed live track state during in-game Instant Replay
• Fixed a couple of CTD sources in Multiplayer mode

UI & HUD

• Added Parc Ferme and Qualifying Session Rules blocks to in-game pre-event screen
• Fixed Live Track Preset help text incorrectly stating that the default starting preset Green (default is Medium)
• Added a HUD message to remind drivers it's the last legal lap of a qualifying stint
• Fixed missing Velopark STT UI string
• Fixed McLaren MP4/12 Low Downforce variant showing default model name
• Added Maserati Trofeo 2005 to 'GT & Touring' class filter

PHYSICS

• Further V1.7 tire tread & aero adjustments for classes previously under revision
• Fixed issue where hybrid batteries would continue to recharge when the engine was off

AI

• Introduced new AI track edge logic allowing AI drivers to see, explore & stay within race track boundaries with much improved accuracy
• Added new AI Traction & Brake Skill Scalars (see release notes)
• Added AI alternative dry & wet paths for several Grade 1 & 2 circuits (see release notes)
• Improved new AI wet lines behaviour and enabled them to work also in Multiplayer mode
• Different classes now may have distinct primary lines depending on the class performance properties
• Improved AI ability to chase the draft of a car ahead to gain speed on straights
• Adjusted AI drafting distance scalars for tracks with longer straights
• Fixed an issue where the AI wouldn't try to draft the player car if the race started with rolling start and player had manual gears
• Reduced AI hesitation when moving to inside lanes and improved AI corner entry when holding a lane away from the fastline
• Increased the time AI will remain in blue flag mode after letting a car pass (applies to Race, Qualy, and Practice)
• Slightly increased the AI speed in the alternate garage extension paths
• Prevented AI from trying to draft the car ahead when too close to a corner
• Fixed AI wet distances being miscalculated when the player was on a drier part of the circuit
• Further AI dry & wet calibration pass for all classes with V1.7 physics revisions (including oval variants)

AUDIO

• Fixed suspension sounds continuing to be heard after returning to garage in some vehicles
• Ligier JS P4: Fixed starting sound loop issue
• Porsche 911 991 Cup: Prevent spectated car going mute in monitor
• BMW M3 Group A: Fixed chase cam sound going silent when viewing it from front
• F-V10 Gen1: Adjusted replay onboard sound parameters
• Disabled safety car sounds when it is parked in pits

TRACKS

• Road Atlanta 2005: Fixed a tire wall with a flipped physical barrier near the Esses
• Silverstone 2001: Fixed an issue where a timed lap would be incorrectly invalidated if the player car crossed into a region near the pit exit
• Bathurst Modern: TV cameras adjusted to fix triggering at multiple parts of the track
• Snetterton: Adjusted TV cameras for 300 layout to fix triggering at multiple parts of the track

VEHICLES

• LMP1 2005: Fixed Wet tyre related CTD for all models
• McLaren MP4/12: Fixed missing intermediate compound
• Dallara SP1: Fixed rear damage models
• Lister Storm GTM: Adjusted driver animations
• Audi R8 LMP: fixed LODB and LODC mirrored paint mapping on right side
• Fixed mirrored driver head leaning in various vehicles
• Aston Martin Vantage GTE: Fixed red bonnet bug when using livery overrides
• Lola B0540 LMP2: Removed unused second page from the display
• TVR T400R GT2: Mesh fixes, detail improvements, headlight adjustments, fixed interior shadow casting

Let's gooooo

 

[Beezer215]

For those of you that have asked, yes you can still get the Mod Tracks through the Wayback Machine.

AMS2 Tracks

AMS2 Tracks. All tracks are conversions from Project Cars 2. Installation instructions: - Requirements : Either - AMS2CM (an easier and preferred way now: read mod installation instructions at...

web.archive.org

Click to get to the mediafire link and then It will redirect you to this page.

After this, copy and paste that link in the middle to a new tab and you can download.

 

[guybo]

The AI in AMS2 has been a trainwreck since June when they started to "fix" the problems with AI. They have made AI pit maneuvers twice as bad as they used to be.

Simione first admitted AMS2 has this problem a year ago in patch notes and has come out with a statement recently about the problem. A year has gone by and they still can't fix their AI pitting issue. They came out with the useless sliders to move the problem on to the end user but they do no good at all, the AI still brakes too late, comes in, swoops to the side and hit the human from behind causing them to spin out. Admitted by Reiza, so don't argue that it doesn't happen. They have made statements about it happening.

That's why the AMS2 AI is so horrible now. It used to be a strength of the game but it's straight trash now

 

[Beezer215]

The AI in AMS2 has been a trainwreck since June when they started to "fix" the problems with AI. They have made AI pit maneuvers twice as bad as they used to be.

Simione first admitted AMS2 has this problem a year ago in patch notes and has come out with a statement recently about the problem. A year has gone by and they still can't fix their AI pitting issue. They came out with the useless sliders to move the problem on to the end user but they do no good at all, the AI still brakes too late, comes in, swoops to the side and hit the human from behind causing them to spin out. Admitted by Reiza, so don't argue that it doesn't happen. They have made statements about it happening.

That's why the AMS2 AI is so horrible now. It used to be a strength of the game but it's straight trash now

I have some of the best races I've ever had against AI in AMS2. 🤷‍♂️
Different strokes.
Just this past weekend was the same way if not some of the best yet. Seems to be the theme on their forums too.
I haven't been pit maneuvered once. Are you just running into the AI, because I try not to get that close. I know rubbing is racing but at least trying to pretend it's a real race with real cars usually negates a lot of that behavior.

 

[MagpieRacer]

It's decent AI to race against generally, it's not perfect and a lot of it depends on the car/track/weather combo. Some are definitely much better than others.

They'd do well to get it out ahead of iRacing and LMU getting their AI and career modes out properly.

 

[Jezza819]

The AI in AMS2 has been a trainwreck since June when they started to "fix" the problems with AI. They have made AI pit maneuvers twice as bad as they used to be.

Simione first admitted AMS2 has this problem a year ago in patch notes and has come out with a statement recently about the problem. A year has gone by and they still can't fix their AI pitting issue. They came out with the useless sliders to move the problem on to the end user but they do no good at all, the AI still brakes too late, comes in, swoops to the side and hit the human from behind causing them to spin out. Admitted by Reiza, so don't argue that it doesn't happen. They have made statements about it happening.

That's why the AMS2 AI is so horrible now. It used to be a strength of the game but it's straight trash now

It's not quite "trainwreck" level for me but it's still not good. I put aggression down to LOW and I'm still having problems with the AI making very late moves to dive in front of me causing me to hit them. But even more frustrating is how they brake check in slower corners. I don't know if speed into corners or out of corners needs to be increased.

 

[guybo]

I have some of the best races I've ever had against AI in AMS2. 🤷‍♂️
Different strokes.
Just this past weekend was the same way if not some of the best yet. Seems to be the theme on their forums too.
I haven't been pit maneuvered once. Are you just running into the AI, because I try not to get that close. I know rubbing is racing but at least trying to pretend it's a real race with real cars usually negates a lot of that behavior.

A year ago in patch notes Simione mentioned the pit maneuver problem. The guy who runs AMS2- THAT GUY. It was mentioned by name as pit.mameuvers and as a bug. Last month he mentioned it again. HE mentioned it in another release. I'm just acknowledging what I've observed. It's not me, it's not a lack of skill. It's a bug in the game that they have admitted to and many of us have experienced.

 

[Jezza819]

Another thing about the AI that annoys me is how they will get into these 3 or 4 car bumper to bumper groups separated by about a few seconds and it is very hard to break them up without physical contact. It's like they are magnetically attached to each other. Today I tried to run a Formula V10 Gen 3 race at Imola 2005. I always start in 10th and very quickly the 9 AI cars divided into groups of three. The lead three got about a 5 second lead, the 2nd group was 3 seconds behind them and the 3rd group about a second behind group 2 with me behind them. That's where I stayed for the entire 10 laps. Anytime I thought I had out braked one or two of them they would bash their way back in front or make an alien level braking effort to get back in front.

It doesn't seem to be across all classes but it's a lot of them. I ran another race in USA Stock Car Gen 1 and they all spread out normally.