Automobilista 2 - Discussion Thread

[MrCrynox]

You'll be much slower initially, but give it some time and you'll be beating your controller times.

I'd recommend picking a "slow" car on a short and easy to learn track, to get used to the wheel and pedals - years ago, I started with a Logitech Driving Force GT on Gran Turismo 6. It took me around 40 minutes on Autumn Ring Mini in a GT86 to get used to the wheel - but then again, I didn't have a licence

When I started on a wheel I found it easiest to drive cars with more grip and downforce, as I got a bit better with the feel of it I started getting better with vehicles that needed some slip angle. Hardest part is the pedals, as you've found out, you get really used to the haptics in modern controllers, not to mention the feedback you get in a real car through the brakes from the ABS and such.

It's also going to take a bit of time to dial everything in, depending on the game. AMS2 I don't think I've really felt the need to do much. Other games you'll never get it exactly right.

Being slow isn't the problem...

It's the brake pedal, I know it's not a real car yet the all pedals feel so wrong, especially the brake! Like you say the haptics in a controller are so good you can modulate so easily and get right to the edge of locking... I struggle to do this with a pedal, I either brake way too early or far too late. Practice I guess, lots of! Also I seem to play about with the throttle a bit when braking on a controller to steady the car, especially on rally games. This comes naturally, I don't even realise I'm doing it, this doesn't seem to happen when I'm on pedals... 🤷‍♀️

 

[r_outsider]

Being slow isn't the problem...

It's the brake pedal, I know it's not a real car yet the all pedals feel so wrong, especially the brake! Like you say the haptics in a controller are so good you can modulate so easily and get right to the edge of locking... I struggle to do this with a pedal, I either brake way too early or far too late. Practice I guess, lots of! Also I seem to play about with the throttle a bit when braking on a controller to steady the car, especially on rally games. This comes naturally, I don't even realise I'm doing it, this doesn't seem to happen when I'm on pedals... 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely. Even with load cells the feel you get from them vs. real brakes is just not the same. And although modern electronic throttles don't really have much feel themselves, not being in a moving car creates a disconnect between ylthe brain and the right foot. There's some haptic pedals out now that look really good and might help but I have a budget. Despite lots of practice and careful setup braking is far and away the place I and probably most of us struggle with. All that said, I still prefer driving with my wheel though.

What setup did you go with, anyway?

 

[Beezer215]

I don't know. My Heusinkvelds feel exactly like race car brakes. They're pretty nice. Lots of customization too. The load cell is just how the pressure being applied is calculated, it's the springs and compression pads that affect the actual feel of the pedal. With a brake that has a lot of push back and stoutness, it becomes more muscle memory than anything. I had Thrustmaster T300 pedals and then Fanatec V3's, neither one comes close to the Velds. A good pedal will help you a lot more.

 

[greenlightning]

My take on controller verse wheel. Is with sim wheel you get to feel the force feed back. With controller there is essential no forcefeed back. Even if slower, I would think it would have to feel more natural. Granted it is hard to over come 10 or 20 years of just using a controller.
Just have to ease into it. Find simple to medium length track and maybe mid tier cars like GT4. Then either hot laps until starts to feel okay or set A.I at achievable difficulty not to struggle to much.

Likewise - I used to think that direct drive wheel and pedals verses entry level wheel would not be that big of difference. I was way wrong on that. Way better in all aspects with direct drive wheel. I am perfectly fine with my entry level Moza R5. My pedal connector at the pedal base broke completely last November. Switched to Sim Lab entry pedals and plug just into connector on computer.

Still not sure what would be better for casual sim racer. A full sim ring or quest 3 and go VR. Have rock solid wheel stand and office/game chair with locking casters. The locking casters work great, actually only need to lock 2 out of 5 wheels

Alpine GT4 is great even if might be underdog.

 

[Beezer215]

Finally had a great night free to try all the new stuff. Just wonderful. Probably shouldn't of took out the Valkyrie on the new Nords right off the bat but take chance, right? lol
Great car and super fast. I didn't have too much of a problem with the rear getting loose like others have reported. But I also do some preliminary setup changes that seem to suit my style in AMS2 and it alleviates a lot of that slide feeling.
AMR GT3 was good, Peen GT4 was good, Ligier GT was good and looking forward to that series being filled out more. All real good.
Looking forward to the other new tracks coming down the line!
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