Automobilista 2 - Discussion Thread

[r_outsider]

Being slow isn't the problem...

It's the brake pedal, I know it's not a real car yet the all pedals feel so wrong, especially the brake! Like you say the haptics in a controller are so good you can modulate so easily and get right to the edge of locking... I struggle to do this with a pedal, I either brake way too early or far too late. Practice I guess, lots of! Also I seem to play about with the throttle a bit when braking on a controller to steady the car, especially on rally games. This comes naturally, I don't even realise I'm doing it, this doesn't seem to happen when I'm on pedals... 🤷‍♀️

Absolutely. Even with load cells the feel you get from them vs. real brakes is just not the same. And although modern electronic throttles don't really have much feel themselves, not being in a moving car creates a disconnect between ylthe brain and the right foot. There's some haptic pedals out now that look really good and might help but I have a budget. Despite lots of practice and careful setup braking is far and away the place I and probably most of us struggle with. All that said, I still prefer driving with my wheel though.

What setup did you go with, anyway?

 

[Beezer215]

I don't know. My Heusinkvelds feel exactly like race car brakes. They're pretty nice. Lots of customization too. The load cell is just how the pressure being applied is calculated, it's the springs and compression pads that affect the actual feel of the pedal. With a brake that has a lot of push back and stoutness, it becomes more muscle memory than anything. I had Thrustmaster T300 pedals and then Fanatec V3's, neither one comes close to the Velds. A good pedal will help you a lot more.

 

[greenlightning]

My take on controller verse wheel. Is with sim wheel you get to feel the force feed back. With controller there is essential no forcefeed back. Even if slower, I would think it would have to feel more natural. Granted it is hard to over come 10 or 20 years of just using a controller.
Just have to ease into it. Find simple to medium length track and maybe mid tier cars like GT4. Then either hot laps until starts to feel okay or set A.I at achievable difficulty not to struggle to much.

Likewise - I used to think that direct drive wheel and pedals verses entry level wheel would not be that big of difference. I was way wrong on that. Way better in all aspects with direct drive wheel. I am perfectly fine with my entry level Moza R5. My pedal connector at the pedal base broke completely last November. Switched to Sim Lab entry pedals and plug just into connector on computer.

Still not sure what would be better for casual sim racer. A full sim ring or quest 3 and go VR. Have rock solid wheel stand and office/game chair with locking casters. The locking casters work great, actually only need to lock 2 out of 5 wheels

Alpine GT4 is great even if might be underdog.

 

[Beezer215]

Finally had a great night free to try all the new stuff. Just wonderful. Probably shouldn't of took out the Valkyrie on the new Nords right off the bat but take chance, right? lol
Great car and super fast. I didn't have too much of a problem with the rear getting loose like others have reported. But I also do some preliminary setup changes that seem to suit my style in AMS2 and it alleviates a lot of that slide feeling.
AMR GT3 was good, Peen GT4 was good, Ligier GT was good and looking forward to that series being filled out more. All real good.
Looking forward to the other new tracks coming down the line!
🏆🏎️

 

[greenlightning]

I have generally stayed away from the higher tier cars on purpose. In fact do not really use GT3 or GTE that much either. The main reason is, I basically know they are going to be good. Meaning that want to save perhaps some of the best for proper race weekends or when have vacation time. Did use Valkyrie and Alpine cars today. Did not race just some time laps. Will be very fun to race in the future.

August 4th 2025 - ran a few 15 minuet races at Jez Moto in LMP2. Really like that track. Prefere medium length tracks. I would easily take 3 or 4 other race courses instead of the long Germany track. I know these days it's like a must have for any race game.

I do think the graphics keep getting better each time. Running ultra or high all options with all the other visual settings also on. Looks really great.

Managing tire wear is going to be a must. Makes a huge difference to have most of the braking done before the turns.

 

[Jezza819]

I always run in cockpit camera mode. Tonight I ran one race and it was in cockpit camera. But the second one I started was in bumper cam mode. I've tried everything I know to get the camera back into cockpit mode. I've pushed every button on both of my wheels but nothing changes the camera and there's nothing in the settings I've found to change the camera view.

 

[greenlightning]

I always run in cockpit camera mode. Tonight I ran one race and it was in cockpit camera. But the second one I started was in bumper cam mode. I've tried everything I know to get the camera back into cockpit mode. I've pushed every button on both of my wheels but nothing changes the camera and there's nothing in the settings I've found to change the camera view.

I always run in cockpit camera mode. Tonight I ran one race and it was in cockpit camera. But the second one I started was in bumper cam mode. I've tried everything I know to get the camera back into cockpit mode. I've pushed every button on both of my wheels but nothing changes the camera and there's nothing in the settings I've found to change the camera view.

This is easy to solve. Go to options, controls, camera & view. Then make sure change view is mapped to your preferred button. I generally like to use square button on my Moza wheel.

You should be able to do this any time the game is paused or right before starting a race. If you do not do it before selecting a race.

 

[Jezza819]

This is easy to solve. Go to options, controls, camera & view. Then make sure change view is mapped to your preferred button. I generally like to use square button on my Moza wheel.

You should be able to do this any time the game is paused or right before starting a race. If you do not do it before selecting a race.

But how do you do that for multiple wheels? I have a Fanatec Formula v2.5 and a Universal Hub. If I set that to a button on the Formula rim then it happens again when I have the Universal Hub connected, now I don't have that particular button that was preset earlier.

 

[greenlightning]

But how do you do that for multiple wheels? I have a Fanatec Formula v2.5 and a Universal Hub. If I set that to a button on the Formula rim then it happens again when I have the Universal Hub connected, now I don't have that particular button that was preset earlier.

Sorry - have no information regarding changing wheels and keeping buttons mapped. I only have one wheel and doubt if will have more then on wheel at a time. Would be nice to have more then one. Would not mind having the wheel for ATS with turn signal stocks.

 

[Beezer215]

You save different profiles. That's what they're there for.

 

[Jezza819]

Tonight I tried mapping the buttons but it didn't work. The only button that will map on the Universal Hub is for pause. I tried putting camera view on every other button and even though it shows on the settings page, it doesn't work in game. For the Formula rim I actually got the camera position to switch ONCE. The offset squares button switched it once during a practice session. Quit that session and tried it again and once again the camera stuck in bumper position.

Someone on the Reiza forum suggested to do a race, then go into the replay, select cockpit view, then exit the replay and the default camera will return to cockpit view. That didn't work either. The only three recognized camera views in the replay are chase, trackside, and bumper.

So right now the game is only running in bumper camera.

 

[Jezza819]

Validating the files fixed the camera issue. It didn't restore cockpit as the default but at least the change view button is now recognized and I could put the camera back in the cockpit view.

 

[Jezza819]

This afternoon I lost the cockpit camera position again but I have traced down the source of the problem. If I try and use one of Fred's mods, the camera goes to the bumper and will not change and the buttons on the wheel do not respond. If I go back to a regular AMS2 car. The camera is still on the bumper but now it can be changed. The mod cars can still be used in the race, but I can't be driving them.

 

[Beezer215]

This afternoon I lost the cockpit camera position again but I have traced down the source of the problem. If I try and use one of Fred's mods, the camera goes to the bumper and will not change and the buttons on the wheel do not respond. If I go back to a regular AMS2 car. The camera is still on the bumper but now it can be changed. The mod cars can still be used in the race, but I can't be driving them.

He updated all the mods. You have to redownload them. 1.6.5 broke the cameras. We had to change out the cockpit.bin on all the cars.

 

[Jezza819]

He updated all the mods. You have to redownload them. 1.6.5 broke the cameras. We had to change out the cockpit.bin on all the cars.

Yeah that's what I figured. I have not done that yet.

 

[Beezer215]

Buckle up Buckaroos!

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[greenlightning]

What's everyone thing of the last content update and additional free cars. I liked them enough to purchase the new car content. Not a huge fan of ring, so in no hurry to purchase that track update.

I think that will race with damage turned down for awhile and just try and have fun over most realistic methods.

Mentionrd this awhile back and may of forgot my self. Believe that adjusting wheel settings where it moves (rotates) without your hands on the wheel. Will help the wheel stay centered after in game crashes etc. I have been frustrated with the wheel not returning to center like it should. I think this solves that issues.

Need to see if there is a way to automatically shut pit house for Moza wheel down when shutting computer off. Sometimes I forget to disconnect the wheel before shutting down.

 

[Beezer215]

It's not even about the content so much to me as the sleeper physics upgrades they did while just calmly saying it was a "slight reduced yaw sensitivity of rear wings in high downforce cars."
The cars feel wonderful. A nice planted feel but overdriving creates that loss of traction that wears out tires and costs more time.
That and their continued work on the tire simulation. The AI is better and doesn't exhibit much stuck together behavior anymore.
I do hour to hour and a half races and it's just sublime. That compiled with a custom version of rFuktor FFB that I made tailored to my liking and it feels just as good as it drives. Been doing a lot of starting from the back of the pack, no qualifying, with the AI in the mid 90's and just seeing how far I can get through a pack of 25-30 cars. It isn't about coming in first so much as the experience. Pushing as far as you can through the pack.
All the content is really good though. Learned modding just to get some of the physics of mod cars where I want them. It's no secret that AMS2 is my favorite but when you can easily blast through 3-4 hours at night to find out it's 2:30 in the morning and you need to go to bed, that's a good sim.

 

[Jezza819]

The AI is better and doesn't exhibit much stuck together behavior anymore.

Yes they still do that. They will get in groups of 3,4,5 cars stuck together nose to tail and just stay there. The AI in general is very slow into and through slower corners but explosive out of them.

 

[Beezer215]

What do you have them set at? I think the higher you set them, the more they even out. But ya, there are still some grouping going on in some classes. Other classes they can do great though.

 

[Beezer215]

USF 2000 Pro mod car. Have fun!

 

[greenlightning]

Does anyone have all the premium tracks?

If so do you consider it worth it?

Still not sure why AMS2 does not have a stand alone channel group. Instead of being sub group of PC games. That's is a shame when AMS2 is one of the best racing games on the market. It has also gotten significantly better in all aspects in 2025 and will continue to do so.

I am glad though that PMR is getting quite a bit of attention on this site.

 

[Beezer215]

Absolutely worth it. Especially for all the historic variations. Do you just mean the Premium Track Pack or all the DLCs?
Either way, as far as I'm concerned, I want everything that AMS2 offers as much as I use it. There isn't a single track that I'd say, nah, you don't want that.
Consider me biased though.
As far as forums and discussion, Reiza's own forum is good. Also it's a good idea to get into the Discord groups if you aren't already. Especially the modding ones seeing as there's a bunch of PC2/3 content already added to AMS2. There's plenty of conversation in there.

And I have to add, when they have sales, like they just did, it's even an easier decision. They go on sale a lot.

 

[greenlightning]

Thanks for the reply. Just meant premium tracks. Might check it out on the next steam sale. Have not purchased Lambo pack yet. Have all the other car DLC. Just have not bothered to purchased the premium. Really though only use less then 50 percent of tracks on regular basis.

I know there some good mods out there and tried a few over a year ago. Have not bothered to update them.

I am sure that will pick up PMR since two major holiday weeks coming up. In addition will have Fridays off rest of year. Vacation to burn.
I would prefer if PMR sticks to road racing and sports cars. Make them the best that they can. I know rally was decent for PC2. Also do like open wheel in AMS2. Just so many historic sports cars racing classes that could be covered.

Yes - check out AMS2 web site forums occasionally and on a Facebook group.

 

[Beezer215]

Have not bothered to update them

This is the biggest issue. Mod breaking updates. But, it's a necessary evil for modders. We want to have mods but we want them to update the game in every way they seek to make it better. Even if it breaks the cockpits for all mods. 🤦‍♂️ 😄
I just hard install all the PC2 tracks instead of using Content Manager. And there's a lot more nice PC2 tracks coming out in the near future.
You asked in another thread if PMR will have equal or better physics/FFB than AMS2. No. From somebodies opinion that I trust because we agree on just about all opinions of AMS2, PMR will be great, bit the preference is in AMS2. Physics wise, but more importantly the FFB which he thought was a bit lacking in PMR. But as we've seen with AMS2 just in this year alone. Things can be made better through updates. And with AMS2s 1.6, we saw it can get A LOT better.

 

[Scaff]

Does anyone have all the premium tracks?

Yep, and they are well worth it in my opinion.

 

[greenlightning]

Spending some track time on VIR this weekend. Have not really spent any time on this track.

So they have the presets for race classes, matching tracks, race rules etc. Seems like it would be simple to go ahead have preset race series for all classes. Choose full length, medium length, mini series etc and set race length difficulty.

I am curious regarding how many use the preset race classes and settings.

 

[Beezer215]

I use them. They are just like having a create your own career with the championships.
I don't always use them but they are one of the best features I've seen in a sim. How the whole GUI and pictures transform to that class. Separating out the real tracks those cars raced one. (that's why I don't always use the presets, if you want to race on any track you want.)

 

[Jezza819]

Spending some track time on VIR this weekend. Have not really spent any time on this track.

So they have the presets for race classes, matching tracks, race rules etc. Seems like it would be simple to go ahead have preset race series for all classes. Choose full length, medium length, mini series etc and set race length difficulty.

I am curious regarding how many use the preset race classes and settings.

I use the IMSA and the European Endurance one although it's strange to me why the European does not have Spa as a track choice. So I just make my own for there. I don't use the others because I don't do practice or qualifying and it's just extra steps to go in and turn off those sessions, pit stops, full course yellow each time. So I just run individual races for everything else.

On a side note, I think it was before 1.6.6 update but there used to be a lap counter on top of the leader board in the HUD. It was smaller than the main one and was right above the word "leader". I run almost every race except the IMSA and European endurance as 10 lap races. But there's a bug sometimes where you take the green flag but the main lap counter stays at 0. So you're a lap behind. But that smaller counter was always right and now it's gone. I hope they bring it back.

 

[greenlightning]

P4 - MCR is got to be my favorite currently and has been for a few months. Usually run a few laps or race or two whenever on AMS2 a lot over the weekend.

Adjusted my FOV a little. Adjusted camera motion, lean etc some. At the end of this weekend sessions. Feels/looks better then ever.

My number one suggested fix would be to have offline single race settings reset to default when you exit out of the game. First single race did to day, was on muticlass except it mixed the last 3 cars classes that I used from yesterday. Which were not anywhere close to being used in the same race series. Went ahead and raced it for heck of it. Was interesting to see how A.I. handle much slower cars. They actually did decent job.

VIR South is great for P4 and similar powered classes.