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[CAMAROBOY69]

Its official, I am getting a PS3 again so I can see Avatar in Blu Ray. Should be sometime in the very very near future. I would say within a week. Its one of the best movies I have watched in years.

 

[Golfman]

Without 3D it's just a crappy story with blue people running around for 2hour and 30 minutes. I mean just change the colour settings on your TV to make Kevin Costner blue and watch Dances with Wolves.

I don't think most TV's can do the type of 3D that Avatar had in it. You need a display made for it. I'm not sure though.

I sure as hell wouldnt waste money on going to see a film that puts script, character, and story above proper good old fashioned entertainment. I only look for 3 things when i go see a movie - great action, decent FX, and likeable, but not totally believable, characters. Script? Story? Bollocks, who cares these days? I want to be entartained, not educated. Avatar in 3D is the best Cinema experience iv ever had. Even had i not seen it in 3D, it would be up there with the best.

 

[Golfman]

Its official, I am getting a PS3 again so I can see Avatar in Blu Ray. Should be sometime in the very very near future. I would say within a week.

April 26th here in UK. Unfortunately, it will only be the shallow version with nearly no added bonus on the disc. You'll have to wait until later in the year to get the full package. Nice to see you're seeing sense an getting a PS3. Trade your shoebox 360 in, smash up Forza 3, and look forward to GT5, and many enjoyable years thereafter, on a quality system that DOESNT BREAK DOWN.

 

[Sprite]

Just got word my BD version is on its way, I'm glad they decided not to cram as many extras as they can and leave the film with little space, they have taken everything out to give the movie as much breathing space as it can. I didn't see this in the cinema and I don't care for the 3D stuff either so I cant wait to see it, just hope it lives up to the hype.

 

[FoolKiller]

I sure as hell wouldnt waste money on going to see a film that puts script, character, and story above proper good old fashioned entertainment.

But that is what crap like Transformers 2 is for.

I only look for 3 things when i go see a movie - great action, decent FX, and likeable, but not totally believable, characters. Script? Story? Bollocks, who cares these days?

Considering that the script and story are key to making characters of any form... But the problem I have is that you can have script, character, and story be incredible without sacrificing on the entertainment value. As an example I offer up District 9.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

^ I thought District 9 was one of the worst movies I have seen in years. I watched about 30 minutes of it and shut it off.

 

[FoolKiller]

^ I thought District 9 was one of the worst movies I have seen in years. I watched about 30 minutes of it and shut it off.

What was wrong with it?

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

What was wrong with District 9? There was nothing going on besides them talking the entire time. Well thats all I saw for the 30 minutes of the movie that I watched.

 

[TheCracker]

I sure as hell wouldnt waste money on going to see a film that puts script, character, and story above proper good old fashioned entertainment. I only look for 3 things when i go see a movie - great action, decent FX, and likeable, but not totally believable, characters. Script? Story? Bollocks, who cares these days? I want to be entartained, not educated. Avatar in 3D is the best Cinema experience iv ever had. Even had i not seen it in 3D, it would be up there with the best.

You're 12 years old aren't you?

^ I thought District 9 was one of the worst movies I have seen in years. I watched about 30 minutes of it and shut it off.

Having just watched this the other night on Blu-ray i can't disagree more.

 

[FoolKiller]

What was wrong with District 9? There was nothing going on besides them talking the entire time. Well thats all I saw for the 30 minutes of the movie that I watched.

You missed some of the best weapons to ever grace a movie because you didn't like the fact that they didn't cram unnecessary action in where it didn't fit the story? They had gravity guns and energy weapons that just made people and aliens alike explode into a gelatinous mass, as well as full-on mech suits. District 9 is an example of proper fluid and organic action that happens because the story calls for it at that point as opposed to the recent movie trend where it was obvious someone had a couple of action scenes in mind and built a movie around them.

 

[Blitz187]

You missed some of the best weapons to ever grace a movie because you didn't like the fact that they didn't cram unnecessary action in where it didn't fit the story? They had gravity guns and energy weapons that just made people and aliens alike explode into a gelatinous mass, as well as full-on mech suits. District 9 is an example of proper fluid and organic action that happens because the story calls for it at that point as opposed to the recent movie trend where it was obvious someone had a couple of action scenes in mind and built a movie around them.

I have to agree with you 100% here... I had a colleague who also tried to watch it and turned it off after 30 min. He came to work the next day and asked why I had recommended it, because it was crap... He thought he was watching a documentary... Then I reassured him that he shouldve been a bit more patient because the movie gets so freaking good after that first "boring" bit... He listened to my advice and tried again... After that he couldnt agree with me more that this was a great film... Put together very well imo.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

If you both say District 9 gets better after the first 30 minute "documentary" then I will have to give it another chance. Its very rare I give up on a movie but that first 30 minutes was hard to sit through. Reminded me of Cloverfield all over again.

 

[Blitz187]

If you both say District 9 gets better after the first 30 minute "documentary" then I will have to give it another chance. Its very rare I give up on a movie but that first 30 minutes was hard to sit through. Reminded me of Cloverfield all over again.

I had the same when I started watching... I didnt quite understand... but once the "blah blah blah" is over its gets very good imo. Also the way the main character is developed and the difficult postition he is in, is portrayed very well.

 

[TheCracker]

I loved Cloverfield too. Then again, i like a bit of action in my films rather than a bit of film in my action movie as seems to be the trend these days.

 

[DK]

But that is what crap like Transformers 2 is for.

Well, considering Michael Bay considers explosions and big giant robots to be imaginative things (remember Imaginationland?) and doesn't give a damn about the script, Transformers 2 is crap. Especially seeing as a movie that is based on something that originated in Japan has no Japanese cars.

 

[raz_10]

District 9 gets better after the first 30 minute "documentary"

I felt the same... I am glad I stopped myself from doing it, even my GF, who is not into sci-fi movies, was please with the way it turned out.

***I just picked up Avatar, watching it tonight for the first time...never saw it on the theaters..

 

[RUI]

I sure as hell wouldnt waste money on going to see a film that puts script, character, and story above proper good old fashioned entertainment. I only look for 3 things when i go see a movie - great action, decent FX, and likeable, but not totally believable, characters. Script? Story? Bollocks, who cares these days? I want to be entartained, not educated. Avatar in 3D is the best Cinema experience iv ever had. Even had i not seen it in 3D, it would be up there with the best.

👎 Hollywood studio bosses must be reading too many posts like this!

 

[Neal]

Fortunately not all movie producers cater for the lowest common denominator!

 

[Golfman]

^ I thought District 9 was one of the worst movies I have seen in years. I watched about 30 minutes of it and shut it off.

Agree 100%. The setting, for a start. South Africa? I am NOT racist, but white English speaking South Africans have one of the most annoying accents in the world, and the main character was just a geeky little twit who i wanted everything bad to happen to him - luckily it did. I watched it all the way through(only cos i rented it). The special FX werent great, the steadycam approach didnt work, and the aliens were too timid - they should have fought back harder and sooner. To sum it up? A poor man's Independence Day.

 

[McLaren]

Agree 100%. The setting, for a start. South Africa? I am NOT racist, but white English speaking South Africans have one of the most annoying accents in the world, and the main character was just a geeky little twit who i wanted everything bad to happen to him - luckily it did. I watched it all the way through(only cos i rented it). The special FX werent great, the steadycam approach didnt work, and the aliens were too timid - they should have fought back harder and sooner. To sum it up? A poor man's Independence Day.

Not. Even. Close. Watch it again & see if you can't grasp the actual setting behind the movie.

 

[Golfman]

Well, considering Michael Bay considers explosions and big giant robots to be imaginative things (remember Imaginationland?) and doesn't give a damn about the script, Transformers 2 is crap. Especially seeing as a movie that is based on something that originated in Japan has no Japanese cars.

Erm Michael Bay movies are supposed to be fun and dumb, but they offer great leave-brain-at-door-entertainment - exactly why fans of his stuff goes to see them. The Transformers movies: Spielberg, the worlds greatest moviemaker, is only exec producer. I believe this is because that he, like myself, agreed that Michael Bay is the only director who could have pulled this off.

 

[Golfman]

You're 12 years old aren't you?

No, Im approaching 40. Iv seen hundreds of movies. Everything from animated, dramas, comedy, you name it. If got over 800 movies at home, a collection iv built up over 20 years. There is only 2 movies at the cinema that i fell asleep at: Hannibal, and the Da Vinci Code. No chance in hell of falling asleep at the likes of Avatar or Transformers - with stuff like that, you're getting your money's worth.

 

[FoolKiller]

Agree 100%. The setting, for a start. South Africa?

Ignoring the horrible cliche that natural disasters/aliens/whatever should always strike famous landmarks in movies...If you don't know what the significance of the South Africa setting is then you missed the point of the film and none of it will make sense.

Erm Michael Bay movies are supposed to be fun and dumb, but they offer great leave-brain-at-door-entertainment - exactly why fans of his stuff goes to see them. The Transformers movies: Spielberg, the worlds greatest moviemaker, is only exec producer. I believe this is because that he, like myself, agreed that Michael Bay is the only director who could have pulled this off.

No, Michael Bay is the only director that could get away with "I am standing under the robot's scrotum" as a line of dialogue near the climax of a film.

I have said it before and I will say it again: Michael Bay Transformers shares nothing but the names in common with the original TV show and/or comics. Even a kids cartoon understood the importance of continuity.

 

[Joey D]

Agree 100%. The setting, for a start. South Africa?

The more you know!

 

[Azuremen]

Agree 100%. The setting, for a start. South Africa? I am NOT racist, but white English speaking South Africans have one of the most annoying accents in the world, and the main character was just a geeky little twit who i wanted everything bad to happen to him - luckily it did. I watched it all the way through(only cos i rented it). The special FX werent great, the steadycam approach didnt work, and the aliens were too timid - they should have fought back harder and sooner. To sum it up? A poor man's Independence Day.

Oh man, a blissful storm of ignorance and poor taste, all in one! The protagonist was incredibly human, full of flaws, personal issues, and selfish. And while that contrasts grossly with typical "hero" types as protagonists, it certainly made the movie vastly more interesting in relating to the character. Everyone knows someone like him; not many people are willing to fly spaceships straight into the lair of the bad guy, or suicide themselves in some glorious way.

And then their is the whole South Africa bit that you seemed to miss, but others have gone as far as to link you to the Wikipedia article on that.

I guess I can comment on the actual topic as well, which is Avatar. And a few people have hit the nail on the head - blue people running around in a jungle for 150 minutes. There is very few, if any, original plot devices, and this was only reinforced by my roommate getting the Blu-Ray and screening it in the living room. Fern Gully in Space with Blue-Cat-Alien people - "Save the nature, save the world." /Hiro voice

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Watched Avatar for the 3rd time last night. First time was 2d in the theater, second time was 3d in the theater. This time in blu ray on the PS3. Simply stunning and the audio was unreal. Just cant get enough of this movie.

 

[Danoff]

Just cant get enough of this movie.

I got enough of it about 30% of the way through it the first time I watched it.

I think if I ever watch it again it will be with the sound off.

 

[raz_10]

I watched it again on Sunday for the second time...well not really I fell asleep 10 min into it...woke up right before the final battle.
Once was enough...I guess....

 

[Golfman]

I got enough of it about 30% of the way through it the first time I watched it.

I think if I ever watch it again it will be with the sound off.

Yeah well, people like yourself and others in this thread have obviously forgotten what the whole point of going to the cinema is. As i said, i leave my brain at the box office and pay to be entertained, not educated. Avatar is the best cinema experience iv ever had(LOTR comes in a close second), and iv been going to the cinema for over 25 years. Iv seen hundreds of movies. Guys like Cameron and Spielberg know how to give you value for money. Bet your one of these people who likes crap like Dr Zhivago, Gosford Park.....etc. Is your world grey and lifeless?

Oh man, a blissful storm of ignorance and poor taste, all in one! The protagonist was incredibly human, full of flaws, personal issues, and selfish. And while that contrasts grossly with typical "hero" types as protagonists, it certainly made the movie vastly more interesting in relating to the character. Everyone knows someone like him; not many people are willing to fly spaceships straight into the lair of the bad guy, or suicide themselves in some glorious way.

And then their is the whole South Africa bit that you seemed to miss, but others have gone as far as to link you to the Wikipedia article on that.

I guess I can comment on the actual topic as well, which is Avatar. And a few people have hit the nail on the head - blue people running around in a jungle for 150 minutes. There is very few, if any, original plot devices, and this was only reinforced by my roommate getting the Blu-Ray and screening it in the living room. Fern Gully in Space with Blue-Cat-Alien people - "Save the nature, save the world." /Hiro voice

Who in this day and age honestly gives a toss about originality? I hate movie critics who whine on about "oo the screenplay is AWful", or "we've seen this type of thing beFORE a dozen times", blah blah blah. Get a life.

 

[McLaren]

People like originality because it's something new. Avatar was anything but.

Sorry some of us would prefer some movies to actually make sense when it presents a plot. I like entertainment as much as the next person, but I don't want a movie to just go in all sorts of directions or lack anything worthwhile just because I'm expected to leave my brain at the door.