Oh wow, congrats on those accomplishments. As I'm not aware because I'm not a mind reader. Oh which what does that have to do with you exploiting the game for cars? Zero maybe. Or did you really think you were going to impress me and what I've do thus far in this game?
And this is why the rolleyes was necessary. When whinging about "legitimate" playthrough, I've just presented you with the fact I've played through the game that way, to a further level than you have (as B-Spec is hardly playing or learning to drive yourself), and you shrug it off.
Again, duplicating cars for ones "own" personal enjoyment is far different then the black market we see happening.
True, but this petition would seek to get rid of both. Not to mention this "black market" you speak of, and the constant mention of cars' worth in it, is nothing more than a user-developed construct. There is no market in GT5, players have created it themselves.
Which again, is what this topic is about correct? It's the trading them off to low level players who haven't earned the right to even have to cars.
They paid their money, they want their cars. Did I enjoy "earning" my X1, by running the Vettel challenge? Yep. But others want to play the game differently. I see no problem with that. And I definitely don't see a problem with someone willing to duplicate cars away, for nothing but "donations" if people deem it necessary, to as many other players as they want (see the large coloured X1 thread in the Marketplace by AsianOnRoute69). They have a sharing attitude, and want as many people to have access to these cars as possible. Mis-representing a duplicated car as something that was hard-worked for is something I don't like, as its dishonest, but that's about the only complaint I can see. And that isn't a game problem, but a problem with the user.
Again, I know I know, watch how many reply not grasping that and just see that someone is telling them what they can and can't do with their game. It's the issue of credits don't mean anything anymore as well.
They do until you hit 20 million
. Not to mention that duplicating is only really beneficial for expensive cars. For anything under a million, it's faster to just buy the car if its available, and earn the money back by racing. The same reason I didn't see much use for the birthday glitch other than the Terrible Trio.
So are you guessing here at my statement or just misreading it.? I don't have one colored X1 as of yet. I have just under 17 million points on hand. I do not trade anything at anytime. So I would fall under the "personal enjoyment" category if I "were" to choice to go that route. Your question has just been answered.
Just was checking if you planned on buying each individual colour without using the exploit. As in, spending 20 million each and every time. Now that you're adding that personal enjoyment is apparently okay, I still ask why you think this petition is good, since it would put a stop to your colour collecting. Unless you really do plan on earning 20 million what, more than a dozen times?
Hmm, just answered your own question. Was it really that hard? Or just hard to come out and say to where the public could read it?
Heh. I did answer it, but you're mis-reading if you think it's in line with your personal opinion on the matter. Duplicating has an easy fix. PD didn't do it. Just like they didn't disallow the Veyron in a race populated by 250hp cars. If they think one's okay...
Funny, you are not using it as well? Maybe because if I am in my 40's and the general population is in their teens and twenties. My assessment would rather be quite correct. But since you think you are so insightful. Then if I do use that word often as you do as well. Then you would have already seen me talk about how long I have been gaming since there was a few threads about it and one about our kids playing. I mean since wisdom and being a mod must go hand in hand.
The syntax here is hurting my head. Again, repeatedly making broad generalizations, and repeating them as often as you desire, doesn't make them any more accurate.
That is correct and the fact remains you should practice what you preach and stay on subject to the thread. This thread is about those who don't like the " oversite by PD ". Not you exploiters who don't want to see a change in your exploiting ways. Where even credits don't mean anything anymore.
The exploit is tied directly to gifting. Therefore, it's the topic. Banning gifting would knock GT back from a community-interaction standpoint. And there are already competitors that offer pretty robust online community environments. Are there people who abuse the system? Yep. But you'll get a small percentage of that with any game. And even given GTP's size, we represent just a tiny fraction of total GT players.
by the way, 4 endurances left in B-Spec is a long long time away from 40. Like 10 24hr races if I'm reading what you are saying here..... 35 is not close to 36, 37 is way away, then 38, 39,40. It's like 13 24hr races and one 9 hr races and one 4hr race is what I did to get there just from level 35 to 40.
You seem fixated more on the leveling system than any inherent "skill" in the game. It's a long amount of
time away from 40, yes, but it's not a lot of events left. And pressing a few buttons to send my B-Spec team around the track is "playing a video game" at the most basic level. I do it for the prizes, that's it.
You are not a level 40 player so just go be what ever it is you can. Because again, you have not rated it to even think you can relate. Now go fix that.
Neither are you. Your computer drones are, though 👍
Again, it seems like your primary criteria for the game is how much time someone has put into it, not whether they're actually good or not.
I lol'd...as I think you are serious. ( it's "then" to btw )
It's
too by the way. And there's the text-speak...
Congrats on all "you've" accomplishment because it doesn't sound like "you've" actually done much of anything on your own.
This, this is delicious irony.
How could you even feel that effort when you haven't given any. Going back to playing now.
*Presses button to start race*
*Comes back hours later to completed race*
Effort? B-Spec is just a much longer dragged-out version of the exploit. That we are now forced to use B-Spec for half the game, when it was optional in GT4, is a step back, to me (though that's another matter for another thread). In addition, since every car is purchasable in the game (bar the carbon X1 and the GT Academy 370Z), there is no "skill" in acquiring any of them in this game. Just time.
/flamesuit on
Not sure if this has been said before or not, [not going to read 12 pages] However, a solution to the duping would simply to be to code some sort of simple unique 'serial number' for every car you own which is tied with your gamer tag for example. That way your career logs all said serial numbers for every car you own and buy...
so when a duped car is traded back into the original save the game can recognise this
I'm not sure if I posted it in this thread, but I brought that up in the chat the other day
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It'd be simple enough to implement: all cars in my game would have a, say, SLIPZTREM_000001 ID, going up for each car that makes it in my garage. Then just program the game to not allow cars with matching ID's to both be in the garage.
The catch is this wouldn't stop duplicating at all, at least in the way people keep complaining (others getting your duplicated cars). Because SLIP_000001 could be sitting in hundreds of garages, but as long as I only have one copy in mine, it wouldn't trip any coding to prevent that. It would mean I couldn't make multiple copies of an expensive car for my own personal use (different states of tune, different looks, etc).
The only way I can reasonably see duplicating fully being eradicated is to not let the user have access to their own save data. It would have to be server-side for anybody who's playing online. Which is a colossally bad idea for a bunch of reasons.
