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May I ask you guy's - can I use the pedals on my T-300 on my new T-GT?
Can you buy this (fanatec club sport pedals) separately?
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Best Steering Wheel on the Market for GTS?
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user3392345
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TonyJZX
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I think its even more galling in that the aud $1,299 TM goes up against the G29 which is under aud $300 - i get it... the G29 is subpar in 2018 but is it 1/4 as good?
Its more like Logitech have a decent office peripheral range that subsidises the G29 while Thrustmaster is ONLY a gaming peripheral company.
In contrast, the PS4 slim is like $300 and the game itself is $40 off the store which reflects global pricing.
You can see how $1,200 is quite a stretch, granted its as low as ~$1,100 elsewhere...
Its more like Logitech have a decent office peripheral range that subsidises the G29 while Thrustmaster is ONLY a gaming peripheral company.
In contrast, the PS4 slim is like $300 and the game itself is $40 off the store which reflects global pricing.
You can see how $1,200 is quite a stretch, granted its as low as ~$1,100 elsewhere...
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- routergod24
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- andrewhake
I am definitely much faster and more consistent with blue mode. I don't really get any rattling when understeering but I use the wheel at high FFB settings in-game which I think helps minimize that. For me the wheel doesn't rattle at all when understeering hard, it just gets a bit light like you would expect it to. I think people that run really low FFB settings have this effect exaggerated. I use Max Torque 9 and FFB Sensitivity 9.
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- Nando_deBem
I bought the McLaren wheel and, I don’t know if it’s the wheel or the firmware update... or both... I’m getting a lot less rattling now.
- 1,521
- Seixal
- zefthebestofcour
Firmware and possibly also the last Update from GTS!
These issues are overrated (a lot)... I currently have no issues at all (with the last update from GTS were gone) ... and I have IT!!!! (Fanatec CSL ELite PS4)
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- Alpha_Cipher1
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- TheNorfolkDad
Seeing a few comments about updating firmware on Thrustmasters, is this something that needs to be done when they release an update or something?
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- dawko-san
T-GT definitely.
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- SNAKEMAIO
I think wheel and pedals are both very important to have the best performances...
having the same skills, a person driving with a T-GT and with fanatec pedals will be 1-2 seconds faster than one driving with a T-300 and its pedals...
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- Laguna
- Alpha_Cipher1
Ask mthomas, he doesn't even have a wheel
I don't get why that's the case to be honest. With the wheels, maybe because of force feedback, but pedals no not really (read: not at all). Sure heavier pedals and all can give you a better feel but it won't really make a person faster. And with the wheels, maybe the improved FFB will give the player more info on what's happening on the road, but it's still up for the player to interpret what that means, and a great player wouldn't need the additional info at all
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- SNAKEMAIO
Indeed, i was talking about people with same skills...Ask mthomas, he doesn't even have a wheel
I don't get why that's the case to be honest. With the wheels, maybe because of force feedback, but pedals no not really (read: not at all). Sure heavier pedals and all can give you a better feel but it won't really make a person faster. And with the wheels, maybe the improved FFB will give the player more info on what's happening on the road, but it's still up for the player to interpret what that means, and a great player wouldn't need the additional info at all
Surely mthomas is the new "Neo" for "GTS-Matrix"...
Maybe it's better said like this: a person driving with a T-GT and with fanatec pedals will be 1-2 seconds faster than himself driving with a T-300 and its pedals...
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- TheNorfolkDad
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- TheNorfolkDad
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- Belgium
For GTS, T-GT.
Any other racing simulation (either pc or ps4), also the T-GT, without a doubt.
It is by far the most superior wheel out there atm (excluding its pedals, they ain't what they're supposed to be imo).
A mate of mine who races in a GT3 Porsche 997 purchased a complete simulator worth about 10.000€ to practice at home.
- highend Alienware desktop pc
- Thrustmaster TGT wheel-base & sparco GT3 Porsche wheel.
- load cel pedals with the identical brake pressure as his very own Porsche 997
- big ass 4K TV
- racing seat
- the only thing this sim does not have are the g-forces when braking/cornering (bumps in the road etc can all be felt in the racing seat - I dunno what this mod is called in English).
I'll try to add a photo later on.
Any other racing simulation (either pc or ps4), also the T-GT, without a doubt.
It is by far the most superior wheel out there atm (excluding its pedals, they ain't what they're supposed to be imo).
A mate of mine who races in a GT3 Porsche 997 purchased a complete simulator worth about 10.000€ to practice at home.
- highend Alienware desktop pc
- Thrustmaster TGT wheel-base & sparco GT3 Porsche wheel.
- load cel pedals with the identical brake pressure as his very own Porsche 997
- big ass 4K TV
- racing seat
- the only thing this sim does not have are the g-forces when braking/cornering (bumps in the road etc can all be felt in the racing seat - I dunno what this mod is called in English).
I'll try to add a photo later on.
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- GTP_Superwally, supahwally
While I can't really comment on the boldness of the statement, it's wrong to assume that just because it's not direct drive it can't be a superbly good wheel.
I can say that the added effect of the 'depth feedback' (Thrustmaster calls it T-DFB) puts the TGT on another level in transmitting road, tire, and suspension interactions through the wheel and your driving rig. It's likely direct drive wheels have advantages over the TGT system, but for GTS implementation I doubt the T-DFB sensations are being rendered through even the very best DD wheels, the hardware to represent them simply isn't in there.
Much like GT Sport, the T-GT suffers from the same 'the internet says it, so I will repeat it, because it must be true' reputation. GTS was grossly misunderstood at launch and took time to be appreciated for what it is, and what it is not. The T-GT launch price was very high for a non-DD wheel, and that, plus the inability of other driving sims to utilize some of the special TGT features available in GTS caused a massive initial backlash that few people have taken the time to really get past.
The TGT is not a tarted-up T300, and it's not built like any other Thrustmaster wheel, either. It's touted as the current and future wheel for GT, so it's likely that GT titles from here on will take even greater advantage of the TGT's unique features. If you've never been to the website and read the specs and watched the video, you really don't know anything about the wheel.
It's worth the time to go look/read, and form your own opinion: http://www.thrustmaster.com/products/t-gt
AbeFroman75
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- BaysideTigers63
Fanatec, and it's not even close to overall feel and quality of materials.
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I like the csl elite, had the t300 until it broke which was also really nice. I’d love to just try the T-GT to see what that extra rumble is all about, i have a buttkicker 2 hooked up to my Playseat evo, and it rumbles the whole rig while driving, You can even feel it on the wheel. Has a light rumble while driving, and you can feel when you go over bigger bumps and kerbs. Is that basically what the T-GT does? It’s nice for sure, but I guess a csl and buttkicker is about the same thing, maybe a bit better since you can feel the rumble on the whole rig.
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- Nando_deBem
If it’s possible, could you describe how the butt kicker helps you? I understand how it works, but I’d like to know what you feel and when and how you react to it.
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I don’t think the buttkicker helps in any way, just makes driving in the game more enjoyable. Your whole rig, chair and wheels, and even the pedals vibrate when you go over kerbs, it’s a pretty cool effect. Also, the whole time you get a slight rumble while even just cruising in a straight line, comes from the engine. The v8 cars have a deeper rumble then some of the lower powered cars. It helps make the game feel more alive while driving. On some cars the transmission makes a thud when you shift too, mostly the cars with a deeper engine sound, and of course if you spin out and drive onto the grass or hit a wall, you’ll feel it. It’s very nice overall, not necessary but it does make the game even more enjoyable and makes the wheel you are using seem like it has even more feedback on it.
People say GT Sport can feel a little dull while driving because you don’t feel too many bumps through the force feedback on your wheel, it just feels way too smooth. The buttkicker definitely helps with that. It’s probably similar to the T-GT but it’s on your whole rig not just the wheel.
People say GT Sport can feel a little dull while driving because you don’t feel too many bumps through the force feedback on your wheel, it just feels way too smooth. The buttkicker definitely helps with that. It’s probably similar to the T-GT but it’s on your whole rig not just the wheel.
user3392345
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But the buttkicker are just speakers and generate vibration from sound.
T-gt vibration is a real rumble motor generate vibrations from game output = much more decent and defined effects.
T-gt vibration is a real rumble motor generate vibrations from game output = much more decent and defined effects.
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- Bulgaria
Very good wheel,yes.''The most superior wheel out there'',absolutely not.
There is no T-DFB in PC or other PS4 games.
If you visited more often the Sim Racing Hardware forum(which is very interesting forum) you would know that I'm pretty well informed about T-GT.
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