Bored of GT5

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Because in my case I bought GT3 on launch day. I did not stop playing it until I got GT4.

I got GT4 on launch day. I did not stop playing it until GT5P came out.

A-spec is the key to doing this. If it is as shallow as GT5 then I can't replay it. I can replay GT3 and GT4 even now and enjoy them.

Same. I think an issue with GT5 compared to those GT before it was the way you grow in GT life. The level system that was obviously inspired by other games like forza was the wrong way to go. GT was unique with the license idea and made it fun because of how it was needed to gain further and further to keep racing and making money. This isn't the only reason GT life to me is boring but I feel it's big for anyone that really knows what I'm talking back.

 

[Morgoth_666]

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Then by a random chance I got a great opportunity and earned myself a fair bit of money which I'm going to drop into my actual WRX, which spurred a want to play GT5 again. I was very pleasantly surprised in my return, when I noticed all of what the updates had changed with the whole standard cars having wheel choices and other nice additions. So after taking a break and finding a reason to play again, its like a tottally new experience for me. If I had more time I would get into the Online scene but I always feel a bit goofy playing a online game with a headset on with my lady sitting next to me. xD

Not the only good thing about online for sure, but it does give you the ability to complain at her while blaming it on the game.

 

[the Interceptor]

Yes, I've been bored by GT5 weeks after obtaining it. Some may say that this is normal, but if you look at the history of GT games, it is unique (for me). I've been playing every GT literally for years, mainly until the next GT came out. Of course I also made breaks, but I always came back and was hooked again for weeks, sometimes months. And that was with games which did not receive updates, extra content and new races on a regular basis. GT5 fails to impress me despite those advantages, and I have a very hard time believing that it is just me.

 

[Conza]

I don't see the point of this thread, there's nothing wrong with GT5, if you don't like playing it, fine, more server bandwidth for the rest of us, if you do, great, get onto the online gaming segment or whatever.

GT5 is a great racing game, the best that has ever been when you sit and think about it for more than 5 seconds, and it isn't perfect, but it's a further step closer to having every car that ever existed being 100% accurate, and a game that is impossible to finish, it keeps trying to get closer and closer to that, so if you don't like this itteration, go on and enjoy COD instead (btw, I hate COD).

 

[1241Penguin]

GT5 is a great racing game, the best that has ever been when you sit and think about it for more than 5 seconds, and it isn't perfect, but it's a further step closer to having every car that ever existed being 100% accurate, and a game that is impossible to finish, it keeps trying to get closer and closer to that, so if you don't like this itteration, go on and enjoy COD instead (btw, I hate COD).

With all due respect, saying that GT5 is the best racing game is an opinion. On the other hand, many people collectively agree that GT5 doesn't live up to the standards set by the previous iterations.

Even for a simulator, if it's no fun, then why bother with it at all? GT5 is not the most realistic driving game out there. Something like rFactor or iRacing is more realistic. Nor is GT5 the most exciting racing game. So what's the point of this half-assed game?

 

[Conza]

With all due respect, saying that GT5 is the best racing game is an opinion. On the other hand, many people collectively agree that GT5 doesn't live up to the standards set by the previous iterations.

Even for a simulator, if it's no fun, then why bother with it at all? GT5 is not the most realistic driving game out there. Something like rFactor or iRacing is more realistic. Nor is GT5 the most exciting racing game. So what's the point of this half-assed game?

I appreciate the 'with all due respect' part. rFactor and iRacing are primitive (yes, imo) compared to GT5, graphics, physics, car selection, value for money, all of which pale in comparison to GT5, GT5s only problem - it's on a console not a PC.

If it were on a PC no one would even question that it's the best, but the elite PC racing sim gamers look down their nose at GT5, and claim its arcade, because its made by a Japanese company called PD, but when you look at what the PC sims, you have to start to ask why?

rFactor has no shadows, no weather effects, and have you seen the 'official' car list? '39' street cars, '18' stock cars, all up it has a massive total of a poorly rendered 368 cars, 125 of which are open wheelers, another 100 odd are touring, and I wouldn't call any of them even a standard in GT5. I know it's only $40, and who knows rFactor 2 might be better, but this is not up to par with GT5 in many many ways. Yes I've played it, it left much to be desired.

iRacing... $90 every year for a kick off, and this with what I would call an inferior game. That $90 subscription doesn't even cover paying for even the entire list of their abizmal car list, the most interesting car there is probably the Volkswagen Jetta, or it may as well be. 'No' I haven't tried it, why would I try it when committing to it would cost me $90 a year? That's beyond idiotic, its pure lunacy, especially for the lack of substance it has.

I like PC gaming and mods, but there has to be something to work with, and even with the (possible) mods, these games don't impressive as much as they should be given the media they use. GT5 has no rivals on the PC.

EDIT: And you call GT5 a half-assed game? Please.

 

[Blackex99]

Well put Conza these Forza and Iracing fanboys in here complaining.I have a better idea instead of making a GT5 is boring forum.Go make an Ebay account and sell your GT5 to those who want the game but can't afford it.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Great, just what this thread needs. More people telling others to go take a hike since they dare have the nerve to say something negative about GT5. Never mind the fact the OP asks a question, so it's common sense to expect a positive, as well as negative response to it.

 

[Crowood]

I am not bored of GT 5, but since i reached 40/40 i play way less then before. There are also moments i just have to put the disc in and drive a few laps.

 

[Scaff]

I appreciate the 'with all due respect' part. rFactor and iRacing are primitive (yes, imo) compared to GT5, graphics, physics, car selection, value for money, all of which pale in comparison to GT5, GT5s only problem - it's on a console not a PC.

Sorry - did you just say that GT5 has a better physics engine than iRacing?

I don't even consider GT5 to have the best overall physics engine on consoles (but that is a whole other topic) let alone PC titles.


Scaff

 

[Conza]

Sorry - did you just say that GT5 has a better physics engine than iRacing?

I don't even consider GT5 to have the best overall physics engine on consoles (but that is a whole other topic) let alone PC titles.

Scaff

It is a bit off topic, but since you brought us there.

Compare them then, GT5 vs the good PC SIM - prove it. GT5 is clearly better then Forza 4's... Who are you talking about on the console?

 

[Scaff]

It is a bit off topic, but since you brought us there.

Compare them then, GT5 vs the good PC SIM - prove it. GT5 is clearly better then Forza 4's... Who are you talking about on the console?

Head to the thread linked and I would be more than happy to discuss it, but only if you are willing to explain in detail and with reference to real world physics, oh and I am most certainly refereing to FM4.

And here's the one for iRacing - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6862085&highlight=iracing#post6862085

Scaff

 

[X-Power]

Great, just what this thread needs. More people telling others to go take a hike since they dare have the nerve to say something negative about GT5. Never mind the fact the OP asks a question, so it's common sense to expect a positive, as well as negative response to it.

Agreed. This is a forum for discussion, both positive and negative. Some people treat this as a place where only GT/PD/Kaz worship is allowed. I'm a long time GT fan, I've been playing the series since the very first GT game... yet, I'm bored of GT5. The shallow A-Spec mode, the idiotic B-Spec AI, the lack of driving missions from GT4, the lack of manufacturer events from previous GT games, the lack of decent reward cars for golding events, the grinding required for credits... these all add up to create a game that is not as good as previous GT games.

The physics, graphics and premium cars are obviously better than previous GT games, but what is the point of them when you don't have a cohesive GT mode to use them in? Now, I do find driving fun, but I need a goal, I liked the progression in previous GT games, GT5 just doesn't have that progression and cohesiveness that previous GT games had. GT5 would have been a vastly better game if PD had focused on creating a smaller, more cohesive game with an extensive GT mode, a balanced premium car list, a nice balanced selection of tracks and an all round more quality feel. If GT5 had been like a modern day GT3, it would have been much, much better.

I hang around here because I'm a long time fan of the Gran Turismo series and I'm hoping PD will listen to us long time fans and provide a better GT mode, a more balanced car and track list and bring back the soul of Gran Turismo in GT6.

 

[Scaff]

Agreed. This is a forum for discussion, both positive and negative. Some people treat this as a place where only GT/PD/Kaz worship is allowed. I'm a long time GT fan, I've been playing the series since the very first GT game... yet, I'm bored of GT5. The shallow A-Spec mode, the idiotic B-Spec AI, the lack of driving missions from GT4, the lack of manufacturer events from previous GT games, the lack of decent reward cars for golding events, the grinding required for credits... these all add up to create a game that is not as good as previous GT games.

The physics, graphics and premium cars are obviously better than previous GT games, but what is the point of them when you don't have a cohesive GT mode to use them in? Now, I do find driving fun, but I need a goal, I liked the progression in previous GT games, GT5 just doesn't have that progression and cohesiveness that previous GT games had. GT5 would have been a vastly better game if PD had focused on creating a smaller, more cohesive game with an extensive GT mode, a balanced premium car list, a nice balanced selection of tracks and an all round more quality feel. If GT5 had been like a modern day GT3, it would have been much, much better.

I hang around here because I'm a long time fan of the Gran Turismo series and I'm hoping PD will listen to us long time fans and provide a better GT mode, a more balanced car and track list and bring back the soul of Gran Turismo in GT6.

Excellent post and one I quite agree with.

Scaff

 

[Conza]

Excellent post and one I quite agree with.

Scaff

Its not about 'Kaz' worship, and GT5 isnt perfect, but it does deserve to be defended from delusions of others. Which is what I and others are doing.

Don't like it, don't play it, but it is categorically the best racing game, so if you're bored of it, it's your problem.

 

[Scaff]

Its not about 'Kaz' worship, and GT5 isnt perfect, but it does deserve to be defended from delusions of others. Which is what I and others are doing.

What delusions would they be?

You are aware that members here are allowed to say both what they like and dislike about GT5 (or any other game for that matter).

Don't like it, don't play it,

Have I said I don't like ?

Nope, what I has said is that I don't believe its the best racing title on console nor in comparison to PC titles.

but it is categorically the best racing game,

Best at what? Fishing?

As a statement that is more than a little vague.

so if you're bored of it, it's your problem.

No its not a problem at all, because choice exists. A factor that may well become an issue for PD and Sony when the next release if GT is out, because as things stand right now that will be the first title in the series I will not be buying at launch (if at all), and as I bought my PS2 and PS3 principally for GT titles that may also put my purchase of a PS4 at doubt.

GT5 has done enough 'damage' for me to know that its an extremely unlikely day one purchase of GT6 and or a PS4 for me; on my own does that make a difference, of course not, but I'm certainly not on my own about this.


Scaff

 

[SuperCobraJet]

Agreed. This is a forum for discussion, both positive and negative. Some people treat this as a place where only GT/PD/Kaz worship is allowed. I'm a long time GT fan, I've been playing the series since the very first GT game... yet, I'm bored of GT5. The shallow A-Spec mode, the idiotic B-Spec AI, the lack of driving missions from GT4, the lack of manufacturer events from previous GT games, the lack of decent reward cars for golding events, the grinding required for credits... these all add up to create a game that is not as good as previous GT games.

The physics, graphics and premium cars are obviously better than previous GT games, but what is the point of them when you don't have a cohesive GT mode to use them in? Now, I do find driving fun, but I need a goal, I liked the progression in previous GT games, GT5 just doesn't have that progression and cohesiveness that previous GT games had. GT5 would have been a vastly better game if PD had focused on creating a smaller, more cohesive game with an extensive GT mode, a balanced premium car list, a nice balanced selection of tracks and an all round more quality feel. If GT5 had been like a modern day GT3, it would have been much, much better.

I hang around here because I'm a long time fan of the Gran Turismo series and I'm hoping PD will listen to us long time fans and provide a better GT mode, a more balanced car and track list and bring back the soul of Gran Turismo in GT6.

Great post, and my sentiments almost exactly.

As you point out so accurately, its only a GT6 waiting game for many of us GT1-4 lovers now, to see if the soul of the game will be resurrected.

Like Scaff's comment, GT6 is likely to be the only GT I wouldn't buy on release, even though I am still convinced it will be on PS3.
If released for PS4 the odds increase exponentially that GT5 will be my last GT, unless that soul is revived.

 

[Thetruth28]

I have to say, i've been playing the GT series since inception and yesterday, I had a spare two hours which I would usually love because I get my GT fix in but after golding the time trails, I started to do the drift trials and got so bored I just turned the system off. This same old same old format is really getting quite boring.
I love the GT series but I have to be honest in saying GT5 is getting old a lot faster then GT4 did.
For one, why is there even a Bspec series? Did anyone request it? Is there a reason to purchase a racing game that 50% of the game, you don't race in directly.
Two, why is Bspec the same capacity as Aspec. It seams like Aspec was an after thought when it should be the main focus. Their should be a graduation system. At least previous GT's made you obtain racing licences to enter certain level races.

There are quite a bit of issues I have with the game, mainly Bspec related as I feel Bspec completely misses the point of the game. Bspec, if included at all should be very limited and in no way, shape or form the same size as Aspec which needs to return to being the main focus of the game. Endurances races I can see but who cares about building up a bob's experience. I am also very, very bored with the seasonals. PD seems to have given up on being creative altogether with them. 400pp, 500pp, 650pp, TT, DT, Bspec, wash and repeat. Not sure what is happening but I purchased a PS3 strictly for the GT series, as I did the PS2, but thus far, I have been a little dissappointed. I still love the game and it's all I play, but the burning desire to get home and play it as soon as I get back from the gym isn't there anymore. Maybe it's my fault for expecting more. We'll see what happens. Maybe things will start looking up in a few months with some more updates.

Again, before the flames start, I am just expressing myself, you are free to express your opinion as well. I am just such a fan of the GT series that being bored doesn't anger me, just leaves me a little disspointed and wanting more.

Simply put;
Larger Aspec (much larger)
Small Bspec
Better Seasonals
Lower payouts and some type of graduation system for career mode

 

[Kobooi]

GT5 isnt perfect, but it does deserve to be defended from delusions of others. Which is what I and others are doing.

You're not defending GT5, you're attacking other games.

 

[Tornado]

GT5 is a great racing game, the best that has ever been when you sit and think about it for more than 5 seconds

I've had well over a year to sit and think about it. It isn't even "the best that has ever been" in the series, let alone the genre.

but it's a further step closer to having every car that ever existed being 100% accurate

No. There's more to accuracy than making the cars look right.



For example, sounds.

go on and enjoy COD instead (btw, I hate COD).

And for the record, using the name of a non-GT series as if it was a pejorative doesn't really do wonders for any arguments you may have.

If it were on a PC no one would even question that it's the best, but the elite PC racing sim gamers look down their nose at GT5, and claim its arcade, because its made by a Japanese company called PD, but when you look at what the PC sims, you have to start to ask why?

Because they are more realistic.

rFactor has no shadows, no weather effects, and have you seen the 'official' car list? '39' street cars, '18' stock cars, all up it has a massive total of a poorly rendered 368 cars, 125 of which are open wheelers, another 100 odd are touring, and I wouldn't call any of them even a standard in GT5.

Look! Things that apparently have to do with physics!


I also happen to own rFactor. You must have a different GT5 than I do, because there isn't a single Standard car in GT5 that looks better than the cars in rFactor. And that is an objective statement, BTW.

iRacing... $90 every year for a kick off, and this with what I would call an inferior game. That $90 subscription doesn't even cover paying for even the entire list of their abizmal car list, the most interesting car there is probably the Volkswagen Jetta, or it may as well be. 'No' I haven't tried it, why would I try it when committing to it would cost me $90 a year? That's beyond idiotic, its pure lunacy, especially for the lack of substance it has.

Clearly an informed opinion.

EDIT: And you call GT5 a half-assed game? Please.

Yup. Even Kaz has said as much regarding certain elements of the game.

Its not about 'Kaz' worship, and GT5 isnt perfect, but it does deserve to be defended from delusions of others. Which is what I and others are doing.

Don't like it, don't play it, but it is categorically the best racing game, so if you're bored of it, it's your problem.

I like how opinions are objective when they are yours, but when they are the opinions of others they are "delusions."

Well put Conza these Forza and Iracing fanboys in here complaining.I have a better idea instead of making a GT5 is boring forum.Go make an Ebay account and sell your GT5 to those who want the game but can't afford it.

I have an even better idea than that: If you don't like a thread's purview to the point of righteous indignation, don't waste your time posting in it or even reading it.

 

[funkymcmonkey]

I am not bored of the game just the people that play it sometimes.

 

[HKS racer]

@ All the bored people: rFactor for the rescue, Seriously. Do yourself a favour.

I still play Gt5, mainly when I have Spa and Nordschleife nostalgia. Now after 16 months from release and pretty much all tracks overused, the lack of a livery editor, the issues we all know, it's physiological you are getting a bit bored. If you are, it's time to have a break. Go play something else, possibly rFactor. If you don't have a pc, go complete the Dirt series, or whatever racing game you are interested to.

GT5 IF used occasionally still does the job pretty well.

 

[1241Penguin]

For reference, I can play NFS Shift 1 for about 5 hours before I get bored. With GT5, there's really nothing left to do after an hour.

 

[Giygas]

I only get bored of gt5 when theres nothing i want in the ucd/ocd to drive. An event creator would add a ton of playability into the game, but the possibility of that happening for gt5 is slim to none, like spongebob and james bond racing stock cars in hell.

Though i would like to ask why dlc cars arent added to events as AI, and why every non super fast racecar AI car is slightly tuned. I think the game would be more interesting if we could race against the stock car so we would have a better time comparing cars to each other. It is kind of annoying having every ferrari you race against sounding like a... i dont know how to describe it, but its not anything ive ever heard coming from a car. I'd appreciate it if someone could prove me wrong.

 

[1241Penguin]

Even with the addition of an event creator, it would still be unplayable due to the AI.

 

[zegrated]

It's called playing online. Some of you should try it. Once you get a good group of people to race with, you won't ever get bored.

 

[Findog10]

It's called playing online. Some of you should try it. Once you get a good group of people to race with, you won't ever get bored.

Maybe some people dont have psn mate. Think about that.

 

[Terronium-12]

That, or they would much rather prefer a richer single-player experience.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

It's called playing online. Some of you should try it. Once you get a good group of people to race with, you won't ever get bored.

I tried online and it's a huge joke IMO. It needs some sort of matchmaking system, like in GT5P. I don't always have time to waste searching for rooms that interest me.

And yeah, it may be great having friends, but realistically, I'm sure you can't race always race them whenever you're online and when it's convient for you.

 

[Samus]

It's called playing online. Some of you should try it. Once you get a good group of people to race with, you won't ever get bored.

I wonder what the people who make this 'excuse' would have used for games lacking in single player content before online existed? "It's called playing blindfolded"?