Cars of 2007

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Yes, but that's what makes it so attractive (apart from the gorgeous cars, proper glamour etc.)! The danger! The speed! The excitement! Repeat that part ten times...

You're telling me you WANT to see people crash and be in danger? That's pretty sick.
 
Spyker F1 will launch on Monday 5th of February, not the 7th as previously suggested.
The team’s first official test will be held in Barcelona from 12 – 14 February, with a further three days in Valencia the proceeding week and a third and final test in Barcelona in the final week of February.

Jamie.
 
With no internet and next to no F1 coverage on TV, I bet you’d love it.

Would that classify as being pwned? :dopey:

Granted there are things attractive about various time periods of Formula 1, but this is the way it is, and if you don't like it, change the channel. Simple.
 
The Honda RA107 lasted only half a lap in the hands of Jenson Button, good signs I think.. :nervous:
 
Well, the RB3 looks shiny. Looks a little bit simple by current standards, but it is very easily a big step up from the RB2. I’ll be interested to see how it performs in Melbourne.
 
Oh yeah, you can easily tell that the RB3 is a Newey designed car. Looks like a huge improvement over the RB2, and with the new engines should be poking the front runners a bit.
 
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Thats a hella nice car, beautiful nose too:D
 
The curves look so nice along with that paint job. I also love the blue rims :)

So is STR gonna be using this same chassis or what?
 
The RB3 I can see inspiration from two previous cars.

A) Most obvious the McLaren. Being designed by former McLaren designer Adrian Newey, the car was always going to have similar traits.

B) Ferrari inspired sidepod mounted mirrors.

Certainly it is a nice looking car, and the livery suits it well. From looks and information we have about RB's engine deal, I predict a good season for Red Bull Racing..... now the interesting thing will be STR's launch.
 
You guys can quote me from when I posted it last year; I remember saying that I had no idea why nobody thought of putting the mirrors where ferrari had them on their 2006 car. Now, it looks like the entire grid has followed suit. I should've patented that design or something. I would've made some moniez.
 
I reckon that F1's dead rubbish nowadays. This is what F1 should be like...

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See, I think that's better looking than a lot of modern F1 cars. Back then (1967 was my favorite season) there was none of this traction control rubbish and there was tons of skill involved. Back in the day, these gorgeous beasts would be sliding around all over the place (Jimmy Clark could hold a perfect drift around some corners) and there would be noise and fumes, sights and smells. Heck, they even filled them up with fuel through a metal funnel from a tank. The modern F1 cars are just... kind of boring to watch. They drive like they're on rails and there are rarely crashes and spins. It just isn't as exciting as in '67. Oh, sure, there is glamour in modern F1, but of the wrong type. Back then it was glamour glamour, but today it's the kind of glamour you'd find in rubbish mags like OK! and Heat.

I just wish I was 12 in 1967 rather than 2007.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and that was mine... 👍

Do you perhaps race GPL? :sly:


Oh, and that's not a '67 Lotus, but a '65 Lotus 33.
 
RB3 looks like the love child of both Renault and McLaren.

Deffinatley a dark horse.
 
Just wanted to weigh in on a few issues here:

I reckon that F1's dead rubbish nowadays. This is what F1 should be like...

Pic removed because it was designed by Colin Chapman... :)

See, I think that's better looking than a lot of modern F1 cars.
The difference was; there were no restraints on car design then, the only rules on design were that FIA-spec Formula One cars had to 1) be single-seaters 2) have no enclosed bodywork over the wheels 3) have a rollover hoop that pretended to save a driver's head in a rollover.

That's it, save the technical (3.0-liter NA/1.5-liter supercharged, no aviation-gas) and sporting (no shared drives, shortcuts, etc. ) regulations. More importantly, there were virtually no aerodynamic influences on the cars until late in the 1967 season, they weren't seen in full force until the Monaco GP the next year. The wings, and later on, ground effect, changed the sport a lot.

Lastly in 1967, sponsorship was limited to small areas of the cars: Fuel, oil, tire manufacturers, and the marque itself were the only words on a car. Color schemes were chosen by the national origin of the car, entrant, or driver, and not based on marketing departments, focus groups, or the corporate colors of the team's sponsors. Do you think Ferrari and and Maserati squabbled over who's shade of Italian Racing Red was better? Did Cooper and BRM argue about which shade of British Racing Green was more attractive to the TV audience? Of course not.

But sponsorship added a completely different wave of fans to the sport, eventually bringing the "circus" into the sport, the TV cameras and production crews, motorcoaches, stages, and PR displays that help defray the costs of the sport as we know it today. Formula One racing didn't exactly sell-out, it needed to pay the bills; nothing's changed in that regard; every team and driver wanted to be faster than the next. While innovation and imagination may be free, staying merely competitive in any form of motorsport costs money; to be in the top tier costs even more.

Back then (1967 was my favorite season) there was none of this traction control rubbish and there was tons of skill involved. Back in the day, these gorgeous beasts would be sliding around all over the place...and there would be noise and fumes, sights and smells.
Traction control exists merely because computers exist to "keep costs down" (theoretically), and since not all computers could be diagnosed to whether they control the car or not, the powers that be basically looked the other way, but at least it was one of the few items in F1 racing that would provide safety in road-going automobiles. But the cars still slide, a little. The tires weren't as wide then, as they are now. That changed a few years in F1, too, as slick tires came to the sport in 1970. The sounds are different, just as the sounds on the radio are different now, the sights are different just as fashion, culture, and designs have changed, and the fumes are probably just as toxic (just ask Mika Salo).

Heck, they even filled them up with fuel through a metal funnel from a tank. The modern F1 cars are just... kind of boring to watch. They drive like they're on rails and there are rarely crashes and spins. It just isn't as exciting as in '67.
These are some of the good things about the sport that have changed; a spin might mean hitting a wall, now the competitor can give chase to make a good race, and push his hardest to make a good race or dice. Without a good race, the fan doesn't watch. Without a fan, there's no professional racing circuit, top-level motorsport; Fernando Alonso has to race in Formula Palmer Audi (not that there's anything wrong with that), karts, or club race in a Ford Fiesta.

A driver needn't fear for his life by worrying about hitting a tree at 150mph; more importantly, neither should he worry about the mechanical soundness of his car while negotiating ess-bends in the rain. He shouldn't have to worry about running into a ditch or hitting a fan that's walked out onto the side of the track while competing in a speed contest. A pit lane shouldn't as dangerous as an unmarked minefield with a lack of safe fuel rigs and no fuel cell bladders and fire-retardant suits. These were real dangers in all sorts of motorsport throughout the world, not just Formula One racing. Drivers, led by Jackie Stewart, stood up against the organizers, and for better (see above) or for worse (loss of Nurburgring/9-mile Spa) it showed how to make racing a bit more civilized.

The drawbacks are that driving ethics have weakened; the addition of sand traps and guardrails meant that some drivers had no problem safely disposing of their competitors into these objects, without much guilt. Car-to-car crashes increased, but it could be said that more competitors and the closeness of competition, as well as increased pressure and prizes could be even more motivation.

With no internet and next to no F1 coverage on TV, I bet you’d love it.
Bah! You're paying for your TV and internet services; likewise, you'd just get involved in F1 the old fashioned way! Reading race reports from car magazines, borrowing or buying books on the subject, and then when you discover the secret of the universe was hidden from you on some obscure basic-cable channel (ESPN)...now fruit is even more sweet and nourishing!

Granted there are things attractive about various time periods of Formula 1, but this is the way it is, and if you don't like it, change the channel. Simple.
[Click], there's the IFC...Just kidding.

Exactly, that's the point. It's not all perfect; just as every race is not a wheel-to-wheel, fight-to-the-flag event now, the results and lap charts of the past tell a similar story. But like all things nostalgic, and as history presses on inexorably, it's just another chapter in the same story.

Sorry to go off the rant; now that I'm getting nostalgic myself, the Renault needs to at least keep the yellow color.
 
Bah! You're paying for your TV and internet services;
F1 is on free-to-air TV in Australia. :D
you'd just get involved in F1 the old fashioned way! Reading race reports from car magazines, borrowing or buying books on the subject
Aha, but I still do that now anyway. ;)
 
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