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Decided to dip toe back in again, went into the C with what I thought a reasonable time of 1:09.xxx - that put me second to last, car behind 1 second slower, car at the front was 1:05.xxx :eek: Grid was everything DR from S to D (me). SR was all S.
At the start car behind me pulled alongside (probably using manual??) and we collided - my fault (sorry if you're reading!). I went off track and by the time re-set, is there any point continuing in a car that slow??
So decided to get my SR down to C or less by exiting races - looks like you lose 5 each time.
I want to be with rubbish drivers like me, not superstars!
 
Dorofint
In BS it is at least as dirty. I always get rammed off the track in the bends after entering the Nordschleife. Everybody wants to overtake a few cars there before it goes into the fast part. Maybe some have problems to switch from the wide GP course to the narrow Norschleife. But in general, many are very dirty and over-motivated. More than half of the drivers have no qualifying time. I guess many of them do not know the track well at all. It takes some time to know the long Nordschleife. They try to compensate for this lack with extreme aggressiveness. For such a thing the Nordschleife is however the wrong place. The consequence of this are many mistakes and dirty maneuvers. But in a sense, the Nordschleife favors that too. Due to the usually nearby walls and crash barriers, these drivers lose little time on excursions next to the track. Thus, an aggressive behavior for them then appears advantageous again. Vehicle damage would probably work wonders here. At the latest after the 5 destroyed race, these drivers would either rethink or avoid the race.
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I have been doing a lot of race C this week and it's been super clean There have been a few turn 1 incidents with people braking too late but no contact at all on the Nordschleife. From what I've seen people have accepted you can only overtake on the GP circuit and straight so don't try anything too brave.
 
Dorofint
In BS it is at least as dirty. I always get rammed off the track in the bends after entering the Nordschleife. Everybody wants to overtake a few cars there before it goes into the fast part. Maybe some have problems to switch from the wide GP course to the narrow Norschleife. But in general, many are very dirty and over-motivated. More than half of the drivers have no qualifying time. I guess many of them do not know the track well at all. It takes some time to know the long Nordschleife. They try to compensate for this lack with extreme aggressiveness. For such a thing the Nordschleife is however the wrong place. The consequence of this are many mistakes and dirty maneuvers. But in a sense, the Nordschleife favors that too. Due to the usually nearby walls and crash barriers, these drivers lose little time on excursions next to the track. Thus, an aggressive behavior for them then appears advantageous again. Vehicle damage would probably work wonders here. At the latest after the 5 destroyed race, these drivers would either rethink or avoid the race.
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Yesterday I definitively lost faith in human intelligence.

I was doing the N24 race to get my SR up by starting last and going slow to get a clean race with no stop.
1st thing I noticed is how many people don't know the track at all and crash everywhere, but they still try to pass you anywhere.

1st race went like this : (DR B SR B) I started 14th, let few people pass me in the straight and then started going to my speed. by the time I enter on the Nord track, I had passed 3 people that crashed. One guy catches up with me in in the fast section (was saving fuel, SS + fuel map 2 so I can do my second lap full speed), i let him go, and he crashes at aremberg...smh. similar things happened again with other guys I passed afterwards.

2nd race, everything went well, i think I finished 5th or 6th with 12 positions gained but still not a clean race.

3rd race. Starting 18th, One DR D SR S, in front of me one swedish (DR C SR B) behind (matchmaking was weird)
I say in the chat "don't push me, If you are faster I will let you pass".
First turn, the DR D SR S guy brakes early, let the inside open, I also let the inside open and try to pass him on the outside so that the swedish can get the inside... This idiot decided to try to pass between both of us instead of going on the inside which we left wide open...
Later, the swedish catches up again while I was stuck behind a weaving polish, bump me while I was not accelerating on the right of the track and leaving a huge gap for him to pass...

This kind of stuff happened during all the races, I still managed to get my SR S back without losing too much DR but some people really need to get their brain checked
 
Mistah_MCA
Bro. What are the odds of this happening twice, with both times being .002 seconds apart? :lol::lol::lol:
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Haha thank you. Makes me really happy to know that people are finding the guides useful. :D Have I added you on PSN yet?
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Wicked lap man, that is pretty crazy eh. You must be my long lost twin brotha from anotha Motha!! :cheers:
 
Next races
Race A
Dragon Trail - Gardens 4 Laps 12 Players Car(s): N300 | Specially Provided Car BoP: On Tire: Sports: Medium

Race В
Autodrome Lago Maggiore - GP II 4 Laps 16 Players Car(s): GR3 | Car from Garage Tire: Racing: Hard

Race С
Suzuka Circuit 12 Laps 20 Players Car(s): GRX / ONE MAKE | Car from Garage BoP: On Tire: Racing: Medium
Fuel Cons.: x4 Tire Wear: x15

https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php
 
Hope next week is the SF19. Love this thing.
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gtpierre
Yesterday I definitively lost faith in human intelligence.

I was doing the N24 race to get my SR up by starting last and going slow to get a clean race with no stop.
1st thing I noticed is how many people don't know the track at all and crash everywhere, but they still try to pass you anywhere.

1st race went like this : (DR B SR B) I started 14th, let few people pass me in the straight and then started going to my speed. by the time I enter on the Nord track, I had passed 3 people that crashed. One guy catches up with me in in the fast section (was saving fuel, SS + fuel map 2 so I can do my second lap full speed), i let him go, and he crashes at aremberg...smh. similar things happened again with other guys I passed afterwards.

2nd race, everything went well, i think I finished 5th or 6th with 12 positions gained but still not a clean race.

3rd race. Starting 18th, One DR D SR S, in front of me one swedish (DR C SR B) behind (matchmaking was weird)
I say in the chat "don't push me, If you are faster I will let you pass".
First turn, the DR D SR S guy brakes early, let the inside open, I also let the inside open and try to pass him on the outside so that the swedish can get the inside... This idiot decided to try to pass between both of us instead of going on the inside which we left wide open...
Later, the swedish catches up again while I was stuck behind a weaving polish, bump me while I was not accelerating on the right of the track and leaving a huge gap for him to pass...

This kind of stuff happened during all the races, I still managed to get my SR S back without losing too much DR but some people really need to get their brain checked
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I'm BS and it's the same with me. The races are full of me superaggressive drivers who know the route only rudimentary. In contrast to GOTMAXPOWER, his races are super clean. But he is also DR A+ SR S. That makes a huge difference. I have often noticed that races with many DR S and A+ drivers are very clean. There the general level is simply much higher. But already in DR B there are many drivers with bad racecraft. It is amazing how different the behavior in the respective classes are. But especially at the Nordschleife that makes sense. No S or A+ driver would race there if he barely knows the track. To be successful in the long term at this level you have to train and act smart. In DR B, on the other hand, there are probably many drivers who are in principle fast but also over-motivated and thus take such a risk. For us, this means that both in DR and SR we have to reach the highest possible level to increase the chance of clean races. Actually, a high SR should guarantee clean races, but that does not work. For this the penalty system is too bad and SR S too easy to reach. Only in combination with a high DR it separates the clean from the dirty drivers. But that's a big hurdle for players like me. Since I have family and consequently little time to play, I have not been going beyond DR B for months. This denied me and other players who are clean but not so fast this possibility.
 
05XR8
Hope next week is the SF19. Love this thing.
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I aggree, that car is so much fun to drive. I love the fact that you have now also that overtake button, so even in the F1 car you can now decide when KERS is being used. On which button did you set these function? Using the G29 put it on L2 but it's still a bit weird
 
Only managed two races this week, both last night. The first one was a bit of a disaster, made a mistake early on and got battered about. My second race was much better and very clean although I did get very late on the brakes coming into Dunlop but recovered well. Went on a charge and went from 14th to 6th doing a zero stop on the mediums. I even remembered to hit the record button this time. My racing buddy Bass-Design from Mt.Panorama was with me for much of the race. Also GOTMAXPOWER was the winner but I am a mile off that kind of pace just yet. Need to improve my qualy time as I can shave some more time off it, although I do enjoy starting near the rear at the Nurb.

 
Managed to get in another race last night. Not much track time this week. Raced C from the back again in the Vette. Didn't finish as high as last time. Ended up 9th with a time of 17:54. Did a no stop, FM1 the whole race on Mediums with super short shifting. Got the .1 lap warning coming into the final corners. I need to get used to the gears I'm using now. I usually have a prefered gear for every corner, which helps me set my corner speed, but now I'm 1 or even 2 gears higher in some corners. I had some close calls being to hot into corners, but stayed on track for both laps. I hope to get some laps this weekend and find some speed, maybe qualify and see if I can steal a podium or 2. I have yet to get the opertunity to draft past anyone. Bad timing I guess.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I have been doing a lot of race C this week and it's been super clean There have been a few turn 1 incidents with people braking too late but no contact at all on the Nordschleife. From what I've seen people have accepted you can only overtake on the GP circuit and straight so don't try anything too brave.
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It depends on the time you race or the luck of the draw. Last night the backfield was pretty good, however earlier, everything @Dorofint fint describes happened in the fast mainly A/S room as well. It was sometimes advantageous to me, passing a ton of ghosts all the way from T1 to Flugplatz, making it from last to 9th in the process, or I would end up in the wall somewhere, not being able to avoid all the aggressive driving, someone serving a penalty in the wrong place, braking in the wrong place in tight traffic, or straight up getting bumped and spun. I've had races where I was over 10 sec behind the entire field at Flugplatz as a result of the chaos in the first section.

The race after Flugplatz is usually very good, before is a gamble and better not to dwell on it. Luckily the ones that don't really know the track drop out early. I've had many races where 6 or more quit during the race.
 
Wow! Suzuka next week, if it's with SF I think it might be fun thou. :lol:
Unless PD makes the setup like every other car in game... I mean understeer, as much as possible :odd:
 
Warmed up with the new Autopolis CE.
(All gold. took me about 35 mins)

Race A tonight. Jumped right in. Q-time 1'06"7xx
Started 2nd fell back to P5 after contact with either a Japanese or an Australian.
Finished 2nd.

If I had pushed instead of just playing it safe, I think I could have at least had a shot at the win.
But most probably I would have put myself off the track and finished P6 ish...



All the action happens at lap 1 and lap 4 ~ lap 5.

 
Last night I did some qualifying laps with the M6, and was struggling. The car itself was fine, but I kept making mistakes, which lead to more mistakes as the level of frustration went up, so I gave up and went and acted like a hooligan in the Gt lounge, bought a new car and took a rest because my hands were unhappy. After midnight I did DTSII a couple of times from the back with the M4. The car was awesome, but the field was not. starting from the back, it was Huracan city with mostly a DR/B grid. Each race I gained a few places, but after 2 races only gained 2SR and lost about 900 DR. One more race and it's down to DR/D again.

They must have done a few tweaks with the update. I did one lap qualifying with the M6 tonight and I had this thing dancing. I was cornering and changing gears without really registering it was happening. At the end of the lap I was 5s faster than my M3 time, and that had taken me 6 laps to do. Kinda hope they don't screw everything up with the next update :crazy:.
 
Alright, so I finally broke into the 13s in qualifying at the Ring. My next lap would have been in the low 12s if I hadn't done the bottle job in the turn prior to the second carousel (sorry don't know the names...). I'm really liking this Corvette. It carries good pace through the corners. I just need to improve.

Got some things to do around the house, then racing.
 
Hello racers, due to vacation and my PS+ that has expired, i see that there's an update today. Just have my PS+ renewed and updated the game. I would like to ask if there are significant changes to some things, or is it just a minor update? Grtz
 
Invisigoth
Last night I did some qualifying laps with the M6, and was struggling. The car itself was fine, but I kept making mistakes, which lead to more mistakes as the level of frustration went up, so I gave up and went and acted like a hooligan in the Gt lounge, bought a new car and took a rest because my hands were unhappy. After midnight I did DTSII a couple of times from the back with the M4. The car was awesome, but the field was not. starting from the back, it was Huracan city with mostly a DR/B grid. Each race I gained a few places, but after 2 races only gained 2SR and lost about 900 DR. One more race and it's down to DR/D again.

They must have done a few tweaks with the update. I did one lap qualifying with the M6 tonight and I had this thing dancing. I was cornering and changing gears without really registering it was happening. At the end of the lap I was 5s faster than my M3 time, and that had taken me 6 laps to do. Kinda hope they don't screw everything up with the next update :crazy:.
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Stop Qualifying and get out there and start racing!! ;) :cheers:
 
Looks like Australians still get to race with just 3 orange bars ... after the server fixes etc. ... oh well, I don't think I'll race then ... driving the Nord with 3 orange bars is not at all fun ... two upgrades ago, you if you got a bad connection, the next race was 5 green bars ... now for Aussies and Kiwis, its 3 bars and the best quality is yellow ones. I liked racing Asia, absolutely ... but not with random lead weights swinging around the front of the car, causing the car to leap forward and left and right and then come back instantly onto the black top ...

PD ... stop any penalties for dropping out of a race before the start if your connection is worse than 5 green bars. Then maybe one day I will see some green bars and then I'll race ...
 
Ok. I'm venting.

The Nurburgring (24hr) appeared in this game with GT5. That's 2010. Now, let's forget for a moment that the Nurb showed up in GT in 2005. Let's forget that it was in Tourist Trophy. Let's focus on 2010.

it's 2019.

How in the (I'm censoring myself) is it possible, that in NINE YEARS since the introduction, or even in the 18 months since GTS was released, people STILL cannot clue in to STOP for the first corner? Does it come as a shock EVERY TIME? And how does that work exactly? "Hmmmm....I wonder what's at the end of this pit straight. There should be a corner around here somewhere. I vaguely recall...OH THERE IT IS!"

SCREEECH!!! BOOOM!! CRASH!! SCREEECH!!!

it's the start of a 17+ minute race and this is the FIRST thing that you need to do after the start, because you are already on the throttle before the race starts. ONE job. Don't crash at the FIRST CORNER. Never mind that there are constant reminders to NOT CRASH AT THE FIRST CORNER.

Also "I hate this track" is the sentiment that should indicate to yourself to not participate in this event. I'd go so far as to say that if your qualifying time is more than 8:25, consider trying again. Consider a little practice so that you know where the corners might be. At 8:30+...just don't. Try again. I actually respect the folks with no time a little more because they know that they will gain positions through the mistakes of the others.

Yes, yes, I know, it's a big track with a lot of corners, but it's also an iconic track that should be somewhat known to anyone who likes racing, in the same way that people who love the NFL know who Joe Namath is, or how soccer fans know Diego Maradona. This is a track for the faithful. Only the faith need apply. Or, just learn the FIRST CORNER!

But seriously...NINE YEARS...NINE.....YEARS. ....9......


So, for those who haven't qualified at the front of the pack, just wait. Hang back. Benefit from the failure of others. If there was ever a track that did not have a "golden lap" this is the one. If someone is ahead of you, they are better than you. If someone is 10 seconds faster in qualifying, dive bombing them is not the tactic to take. This is a race craft track. Pace yourself. Conserve your fuel.

Oh, and if you are pitting for tires and fuel, you are doing it wrong. This is a NO STOP race. Going for broke and a 1 stop strategy is just annoying. I understood this happening on Monday. We didn't know. I made that same mistake, but, it's now Thursday. If you aren't on the front row, 1 stop isn't going to benefit you.

Oh, and stop for the first corner.

I feel better now....somewhat
 
Voodoovaj
Ok. I'm venting.

The Nurburgring (24hr) appeared in this game with GT5. That's 2010. Now, let's forget for a moment that the Nurb showed up in GT in 2005. Let's forget that it was in Tourist Trophy. Let's focus on 2010.

it's 2019.

How in the (I'm censoring myself) is it possible, that in NINE YEARS since the introduction, or even in the 18 months since GTS was released, people STILL cannot clue in to STOP for the first corner? Does it come as a shock EVERY TIME? And how does that work exactly? "Hmmmm....I wonder what's at the end of this pit straight. There should be a corner around here somewhere. I vaguely recall...OH THERE IT IS!"

SCREEECH!!! BOOOM!! CRASH!! SCREEECH!!!

it's the start of a 17+ minute race and this is the FIRST thing that you need to do after the start, because you are already on the throttle before the race starts. ONE job. Don't crash at the FIRST CORNER. Never mind that there are constant reminders to NOT CRASH AT THE FIRST CORNER.

Also "I hate this track" is the sentiment that should indicate to yourself to not participate in this event. I'd go so far as to say that if your qualifying time is more than 8:25, consider trying again. Consider a little practice so that you know where the corners might be. At 8:30+...just don't. Try again. I actually respect the folks with no time a little more because they know that they will gain positions through the mistakes of the others.

Yes, yes, I know, it's a big track with a lot of corners, but it's also an iconic track that should be somewhat known to anyone who likes racing, in the same way that people who love the NFL know who Joe Namath is, or how soccer fans know Diego Maradona. This is a track for the faithful. Only the faith need apply. Or, just learn the FIRST CORNER!

But seriously...NINE YEARS...NINE.....YEARS. ....9......


So, for those who haven't qualified at the front of the pack, just wait. Hang back. Benefit from the failure of others. If there was ever a track that did not have a "golden lap" this is the one. If someone is ahead of you, they are better than you. If someone is 10 seconds faster in qualifying, dive bombing them is not the tactic to take. This is a race craft track. Pace yourself. Conserve your fuel.

Oh, and if you are pitting for tires and fuel, you are doing it wrong. This is a NO STOP race. Going for broke and a 1 stop strategy is just annoying. I understood this happening on Monday. We didn't know. I made that same mistake, but, it's now Thursday. If you aren't on the front row, 1 stop isn't going to benefit you.

Oh, and stop for the first corner.

I feel better now....somewhat
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Wow, what is this?

If you can’t qualify faster than 8:30 you shouldn’t play? You shouldn’t race how you want, and instead stick to no stop only?
 
Voodoovaj
Ok. I'm venting.

The Nurburgring (24hr) appeared in this game with GT5. That's 2010. Now, let's forget for a moment that the Nurb showed up in GT in 2005. Let's forget that it was in Tourist Trophy. Let's focus on 2010.

it's 2019.

How in the (I'm censoring myself) is it possible, that in NINE YEARS since the introduction, or even in the 18 months since GTS was released, people STILL cannot clue in to STOP for the first corner? Does it come as a shock EVERY TIME? And how does that work exactly? "Hmmmm....I wonder what's at the end of this pit straight. There should be a corner around here somewhere. I vaguely recall...OH THERE IT IS!"

SCREEECH!!! BOOOM!! CRASH!! SCREEECH!!!

it's the start of a 17+ minute race and this is the FIRST thing that you need to do after the start, because you are already on the throttle before the race starts. ONE job. Don't crash at the FIRST CORNER. Never mind that there are constant reminders to NOT CRASH AT THE FIRST CORNER.

Also "I hate this track" is the sentiment that should indicate to yourself to not participate in this event. I'd go so far as to say that if your qualifying time is more than 8:25, consider trying again. Consider a little practice so that you know where the corners might be. At 8:30+...just don't. Try again. I actually respect the folks with no time a little more because they know that they will gain positions through the mistakes of the others.

Yes, yes, I know, it's a big track with a lot of corners, but it's also an iconic track that should be somewhat known to anyone who likes racing, in the same way that people who love the NFL know who Joe Namath is, or how soccer fans know Diego Maradona. This is a track for the faithful. Only the faith need apply. Or, just learn the FIRST CORNER!

But seriously...NINE YEARS...NINE.....YEARS. ....9......


So, for those who haven't qualified at the front of the pack, just wait. Hang back. Benefit from the failure of others. If there was ever a track that did not have a "golden lap" this is the one. If someone is ahead of you, they are better than you. If someone is 10 seconds faster in qualifying, dive bombing them is not the tactic to take. This is a race craft track. Pace yourself. Conserve your fuel.

Oh, and if you are pitting for tires and fuel, you are doing it wrong. This is a NO STOP race. Going for broke and a 1 stop strategy is just annoying. I understood this happening on Monday. We didn't know. I made that same mistake, but, it's now Thursday. If you aren't on the front row, 1 stop isn't going to benefit you.

Oh, and stop for the first corner.

I feel better now....somewhat
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You didn’t know? The race is won by getting to the first corner first!

Lmao

I know the feeling. You even get that on other racing games. You just prey through T1.
 
Voodoovaj
Ok. I'm venting.

The Nurburgring (24hr) appeared in this game with GT5. That's 2010. Now, let's forget for a moment that the Nurb showed up in GT in 2005. Let's forget that it was in Tourist Trophy. Let's focus on 2010.

it's 2019.

How in the (I'm censoring myself) is it possible, that in NINE YEARS since the introduction, or even in the 18 months since GTS was released, people STILL cannot clue in to STOP for the first corner? Does it come as a shock EVERY TIME? And how does that work exactly? "Hmmmm....I wonder what's at the end of this pit straight. There should be a corner around here somewhere. I vaguely recall...OH THERE IT IS!"

SCREEECH!!! BOOOM!! CRASH!! SCREEECH!!!

it's the start of a 17+ minute race and this is the FIRST thing that you need to do after the start, because you are already on the throttle before the race starts. ONE job. Don't crash at the FIRST CORNER. Never mind that there are constant reminders to NOT CRASH AT THE FIRST CORNER.

Also "I hate this track" is the sentiment that should indicate to yourself to not participate in this event. I'd go so far as to say that if your qualifying time is more than 8:25, consider trying again. Consider a little practice so that you know where the corners might be. At 8:30+...just don't. Try again. I actually respect the folks with no time a little more because they know that they will gain positions through the mistakes of the others.

Yes, yes, I know, it's a big track with a lot of corners, but it's also an iconic track that should be somewhat known to anyone who likes racing, in the same way that people who love the NFL know who Joe Namath is, or how soccer fans know Diego Maradona. This is a track for the faithful. Only the faith need apply. Or, just learn the FIRST CORNER!

But seriously...NINE YEARS...NINE.....YEARS. ....9......


So, for those who haven't qualified at the front of the pack, just wait. Hang back. Benefit from the failure of others. If there was ever a track that did not have a "golden lap" this is the one. If someone is ahead of you, they are better than you. If someone is 10 seconds faster in qualifying, dive bombing them is not the tactic to take. This is a race craft track. Pace yourself. Conserve your fuel.

Oh, and if you are pitting for tires and fuel, you are doing it wrong. This is a NO STOP race. Going for broke and a 1 stop strategy is just annoying. I understood this happening on Monday. We didn't know. I made that same mistake, but, it's now Thursday. If you aren't on the front row, 1 stop isn't going to benefit you.

Oh, and stop for the first corner.

I feel better now....somewhat
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Remember nobody is a professional race driver in GT and sometimes it just happens at the end of long straights as people brake at different rates. It'll always happen, unless you're in the top classed races. I love the track, and must have lapped it 1000 times but I still managed to hit someone last night there, neither of us lost places. I apologised afterwards and we got on with the next race. Most of the issues at that corner stem from people braking actually too early, causing the car behind to hit.
 
The one thing is, saying that the guy in front braked too early and it’s his fault a car behind hit him?
I personally think racing is not hotlapping. It is your job as a racer not to hit the guy in front of you.
It’s like certain corners...There’s a racing line and optimum line for qual.
Often the race line is more point to point so that lunging is prevented.
Jmo
 
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