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How do people complete the race at Goodwood without pitting for fuel? And no, don't tell me to use manual gears because it's too difficult for me.

And there in lies the rub. Messing with fuel mapping on the fly is too messy for me.. I run chase mode and rely on the radar. Too many steps to go from radar to fuel mapping and back again *and* focus on the race. The only way I know of is to do exactly what you say you won't do... manual shifting. I've done a few no stops, but I'd never have been able to do it without short shifting and picking taller gears than recommended. Sorry.. I know that doesn't help much. Learning to shift may well be worthwhile. I seem to recall @Sven Jurgens complaining learning manual was too hard, but I believe now he does it too ;).
 
How do people complete the race at Goodwood without pitting for fuel? I cannot go fast enough if I conserve fuel. To me it seems impossible to do this without dropping right to the back of the field. I tried to stretch the range as far as I could, but not enough to make it on one tank. Pitting will not give the me the win unless everyone else does it. I had decent pace when I didn't have to worry about fuel. Whenever I try to reduce fuel consumption, my laps times drop off too much to remain in contact with the leaders. And no, don't tell me to use manual gears because it's too difficult for me.

Unfortunately short shifting with manual gears is a big part of fuel saving. And you don't need to keep up with the leaders, just be close enough that you pass them when they pit.

Certain cars are better on fuel too. The NSX and Citreon GT are good to try.
 
Try the f type, just set my best time in it, smooth and fast


Took your advice and I tried the Jag F-Type for race C.

I like it! :)

Car had less than 100 miles on the clock as hardly use it.

Down to 1:16.481 in it. Deffo got a 1:15 in me with this car.

Feels better under breaking than the Aston I tired yesterday.

Edit: now down to 1:15.935 in the Jag.

Next...... off to Suzuka in the Mini to see if I can dip below 1:07.
 
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2.12.3 so far on Bathurst in the Megane. About to try the Huracan.

2.11.9 in the Huracan! This car is a dream to drive, handles so well and feels like a rocket on the straight.
 
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How do people complete the race at Goodwood without pitting for fuel? I cannot go fast enough if I conserve fuel. To me it seems impossible to do this without dropping right to the back of the field. I tried to stretch the range as far as I could, but not enough to make it on one tank. Pitting will not give the me the win unless everyone else does it. I had decent pace when I didn't have to worry about fuel. Whenever I try to reduce fuel consumption, my laps times drop off too much to remain in contact with the leaders. And no, don't tell me to use manual gears because it's too difficult for me.


It’s tricky, I’ve only tried it once so far with the RC and was as slow as a bad race with 1 stop, still won but kinda boring. BUT I know that the RC can consistently do low 1:16’s on a no stopper because I watched RF7 do it and beat me with a race time of 19:14.

He was short shifting, but not sure what his fuel trim was. I think a mix of fuel trim 2 and 3, but he still kept a lot of speed in corners. I did a test run in a private lobby and could do low 1:16’s with fuel trim at 2-3 and short shifting, but it takes getting used to and honestly......it’s a boring way to win. Cool let me do extreme short shifting and just cruise with no competition. Least with the 1 stop I can push the whole time and have some exhilaration.

Bit late I know but... the fuel load during qualy shows a full tank. I too notice there is often a discrepancy in handling between race and qualifying, even in races with no fuel consumption or tyre wear.

It throws me off every time. I’ve stopped doing quali runs between races now because the difference in grip messes with me. I end up taking it easy first 1-3 laps then ramp up the pace once I feel comfy. Wish they could just keep it consistent.
 
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I tried something new this morning, instead of just uploading a race vid, I figured I’d go for a different angle this time. I’m still trying to find the best angle in a small room to get best view the pedal/wheel inputs and block out the light from the windows behind the TV, but this was the first attempt. I’ve got it set up a little better for the next run I think, I’ll find out here shortly. :)



I accidentally qualified on my Alt account, so I started on Pole for this race and was ahead by 1.5s by the time I exited T2, hopefully the competition gets better as the day goes on and I earn more SR back, I started this race at B and ended with blue B. :)

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And there in lies the rub. Messing with fuel mapping on the fly is too messy for me.. I run chase mode and rely on the radar. Too many steps to go from radar to fuel mapping and back again *and* focus on the race. The only way I know of is to do exactly what you say you won't do... manual shifting. I've done a few no stops, but I'd never have been able to do it without short shifting and picking taller gears than recommended. Sorry.. I know that doesn't help much. Learning to shift may well be worthwhile. I seem to recall @Sven Jurgens complaining learning manual was too hard, but I believe now he does it too ;).

Yeah MT is essential for fuel saving. FM is far too crude and slows you down a lot more. With short shifting you can fine tune it precisely and stay in higher gears through corners. It's not that it's too hard, it was the finger gymnastics that put me off. Shifting with the bumpers is indeed not possible for me, yet with X and [] it's very do-able.

@CLowndes888 Even without fuel saving MT has many advantages. A well timed shift works better than lifting to make the corner. Engine braking or simply shifting down early to hear how fast you are going helps as well. It does take some time to get used to and every car has different shift points, but it quickly becomes second nature. The suggested gear for corners already flashes on screen (although a lot of corners you can easily take in a higher gear) and that big bar on screen is in a prefect place to see when to shift up. Some cars are faster when shifting late, some when shifting early. With MT you prevent shifting up right before the braking point, shifting further down mid corner, shifting right at corner exit.


Another one stop vs no stop today. The one stop was a write off from the get go.

Some people are so easily triggered....

Then I get SR Down for getting run off the road again later.
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Nose sticking ugh. I already started braking later than I wanted.

My no stop went much better, fastest race time yet at 19:52 for the race. No stop is now in the lead by 8 seconds.
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Avg 1:18 laps with fastest 1:18.05 like clockwork.

Expecting fair racing on a Saturday is a folly anyway. Enough Sport mode for today, see you tonight @Pigems.
 
I've tried several times to make a no stop work using the NSX and the Porsche but just can't make it stick. I get drawn into traffic from behind that always ends up with an off track excursion or two. So I went back to what I know best and just drive economically with the Ferrari to make sure I can do a splash and dash. It's a strategy that works for me anyway.

I pitted from 1st position at the end of lap 10 just ahead of a no stopping Lexus. Whaddya know, I manage to catch him back up and race number 640 finally get's me the 20 wins achievement :)

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DR is at 29,919 so no doubt I'll bin it in the next race :lol:
 
I tried something new this morning, instead of just uploading a race vid, I figured I’d go for a different angle this time. I’m still trying to find the best angle in a small room to get best view the pedal/wheel inputs and block out the light from the windows behind the TV, but this was the first attempt. I’ve got it set up a little better for the next run I think, I’ll find out here shortly. :)



The mirror is to keep your eye on your connection? I wish I could set up like that but with a 2nd screen for rear view.

I have spot where the sun shines onto my screen once a day. I just put a plant by the window. Works great.

PS- totally jealous of your rig.
 
The mirror is to keep your eye on your connection? I wish I could set up like that but with a 2nd screen for rear view.

I have spot where the sun shines onto my screen once a day. I just put a plant by the window. Works great.

Haha the mirror is to see when my wife/son sneak up behind me while I’m racing. Too many times I’ve finished a race and went to get up only to find one of them was behind me watching and it scares the crap out of me every time. :lol:

The camera angle just happened to reflect the HDMI plug in the vid. :)

It would be cool if the PS Second screen app worked with GT and could be used as a Rear view mirror for other views than bumper. :)
 
Haha the mirror is to see when my wife/son sneak up behind me while I’m racing. Too many times I’ve finished a race and went to get up only to find one of them was behind me watching and it scares the crap out of me every time. :lol:
Ha. Was not expecting that. Awesome. 👍
 
Just curious as I can't see the cars used on the Kudos Prime world leaderboard only the driver and gap etc.. can anyone from that region say what car/cars were used for the top 2 times please?

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Australia 00.000 +0.000%
2 01:13.795 SG_Kawakana
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Japan 00.111 +0.151%

Thanks in advance and props to anyone running sub 1'14's :bowdown:
 
I tried something new this morning, instead of just uploading a race vid, I figured I’d go for a different angle this time. I’m still trying to find the best angle in a small room to get best view the pedal/wheel inputs and block out the light from the windows behind the TV, but this was the first attempt. I’ve got it set up a little better for the next run I think, I’ll find out here shortly. :)



I accidentally qualified on my Alt account, so I started on Pole for this race and was ahead by 1.5s by the time I exited T2, hopefully the competition gets better as the day goes on and I earn more SR back, I started this race at B and ended with blue B. :)

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great job. I wonder what the ratio of 'leaners' against 'non-leaners' is in the sim racing world? I'm a definite leaner and you're a semi-leaner. Some of those corners my shoulder would've been about 6 inches from the floor :crazy:

Oh and i think it's a 3 second obligatory penalty for the shorts :lol::lol:
 
great job. I wonder what the ratio of 'leaners' against 'non-leaners' is in the sim racing world? I'm a definite leaner and you're a semi-leaner. Some of those corners my shoulder would've been about 6 inches from the floor :crazy:

Oh and i think it's a 3 second obligatory penalty for the shorts :lol::lol:

Thanks, I’d be curious to know that stat as well. I’m definitely a leaner, My neck gets sore at times from leaning so much. :lol:
 
I made a switch to the 86 yesterday. Handles really well around Lavant and Woodcote. Also great on fuel and tyres.

I ended up in a pretty fast DR A/B lobby with most having low 1:15 and several 1:14 times. A good race overall, close and (mostly) clean racing save for a few cat fights that ended with both drivers taking each other out.

Not much else to say other than being immune to making a podium spot.

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I've tried several times to make a no stop work using the NSX and the Porsche but just can't make it stick. I get drawn into traffic from behind that always ends up with an off track excursion or two. So I went back to what I know best and just drive economically with the Ferrari to make sure I can do a splash and dash. It's a strategy that works for me anyway.

Small world, I was in the same race. I thought I recognized your name but wasn't sure. I got punted off several times, dropped to last place and decided to try a no stop in the 86. Kind of worked out and managed a recovery to 12th.

I tried something new this morning, instead of just uploading a race vid, I figured I’d go for a different angle this time.

I see a golf bag, GT Sport but no beer. Almost a complete setting.
 
Avast me hearties! Keel haul, that filthy Hurracan driver. Send him down to the depths below! Make that 🤬 walk the plank. With a bottle of rum and a yo ho ho! Went in with the M4, was about a second off the qualy for the Aston. Started P11/20 on a mixed grid of DR/C and D.

We weighed anchor and I tried my version of launch control. Finger on the hand brake and thumb hammering down throttle. For the previous races I've had the stick pulled back to hold the brake then jammed it forward when the lights went out. That usually had me drop at least 3 places. This time I just let go of the hand brake and off I went! I gained 2 places from the start and another keeping to the inside of Midsomer Wellow, then kept to my plan of trying to save fuel with short shifting and tall gears. I was up to P5 by the end of the first lap. I picked up a 3s penalty and an orange SR when a fellow Aussie went off track and re-enterd across my bow where I T-boned him. Not much I could do, but it was obviously not deliberate, he was just out of control :crazy:.

I served my penalty and looking at the replay, all hell broke loose behind me. As a consequence I only lost 1 position which I regained when the car that passed me Causton Corner. Exit out of the Car Park was sloppy and had me on the grass and down a position getting back onto the start/finish strait. Caught a rear tyre on the kerb at Midsomer Wellow and I spun out :banghead:. By the time I unghosted at the beginning of the penalty zone I had dropped to P12. That kinda took the wind outta me sails. out of sheer bloody mindedness I persisted and was up to P10 by the penalty zone lap 5. I had a couple of Aussies breathing down my neck for a while, but they dropped back for a while. By the end of the lap one was right on my tail and trying little lunges at Badgers Drift and the Car Park. I suspect he thought I was blocking him, but I was just trying to keep the thing under control! The exit of the Car Park had me fishtailing and trying to move aside to let him by. The Aussie that passed me and the guy in front of him got into it and the other guy lost out. He also slowed down so I gained a position again. The Aussie caught his rear tyre on the kerb on exit from the Car Park and spun out, so P9 across the line starting lap 7. By this stage it was pretty evident that the fuel economy of the M4 isn't the greatest. I think it's even worse than it was after it's first nerfing. Hard to imagine it's fuel economy made it the META once :rolleyes:.

Between people pitting and people falling off, even after a really crappy lawn mowing effort coming out of the Car Park, I started lap 10 in P4. Entered the pits at the end of lap 10 in P3 for fuel. I was feeling the tyre wear slowing me, but didn't change boots, just fuel. Unghosted from pit exit P6. Was happy with that... but there was still 5 laps to go with unhappy tyres... the chances of me finding grass was still pretty high :scared:. Sure enough, I did a Big Willow at Causton Corner :banghead:. I dropped a position and had the two Aussies from before right up my arse :eek:. One of those was the guy I T-boned, the other was the guy trying to get past me at the Car Park. He had also posted the fastest lap time thus far for the race :nervous:. I went off at Goodman's Land lap 12 so back down to P8 for me. Regained position after he had an off and started the final lap P7. If i could just keep my 🤬 together I might be in for a reasonable finish to make up for the crappy finishes I've had since I started my visit to DR/C. I finished P7 right up the bumper of a red Lambo and the Aussie right up mine.

I apologised to the guy behind me for blocking him while I was out of control. I wanted to apologise to the guy I T-boned because I thought I had nudged him off in the first place. Looking at the replay I didn't see any contact. He sent a friend request after the race :lol:.

SR back up to 99, DR up 450. Day 3 in sunny DR/C :dopey:.
 
Even with the random penalty for that guy trying to squeeze into a space that didn’t exist the overall results wasn’t to bad. :)

I've picked up a penalty or two around there. Some people don't slow down, use you as their braking zone, bump and drive themselves off the track. I'd assume that's how you got one as well (blue car in your rearview mirror). Great videos by the way, hopefully you can make more.
 
Round 2 was a little better, had a go at Suzuka in the Mini, started last. Even with the random penalty for that guy trying to squeeze into a space that didn’t exist the overall results wasn’t to bad. :)


Cool videos, man. 👍

As a lifelong controller user, I gotta say the difference in the amount of time it takes the car to react to steering input is huge. It seems you really have to plan ahead to make your turns. It probably doesn't seem that way to you, because you've been using the wheel so much that it's what you're used to. It's like if you drive a car with lousy brakes, at first it sucks, but after a few laps, you get used to braking a bit sooner and it's not so bad (like the F1 McLaren at Lemans).

That being said, you're really damn good at it. After seeing your videos, I understand why people say that spin recovery and quick avoidance maneuvers are more difficult with a wheel than a controller. An example is at 0:57 when you had contact with the car that slowed in front of you. It seems like you did what you could, but I'm confident that I'd have been able to swerve around him with my controller. Not that I'm any better than you (I'm clearly not), it just seems that I get a quicker reaction with my controller input.

Again, you're doing really great with it, and you're way faster than me. The thing about the steering was just really noticeable to me. :)

@AUTISTICBOYX I'm gonna need a better look at that hood. :lol:
 
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Cool videos, man. 👍

As a lifelong controller user, I gotta say the difference in the amount of time it takes the car to react to steering input is huge. It seems you really have to plan ahead to make your turns. It probably doesn't seem that way to you, because you've been using the wheel so much that it's what you're used to. It's like if you drive a car with lousy brakes, at first it sucks, but after a few laps, you get used to braking a bit sooner and it's not so bad (like the F1 McLaren at Lemans).

That being said, you're really damn good at it. After seeing your videos, I understand why people say that spin recovery and quick avoidance maneuvers are more difficult with a wheel than a controller. An example is at 0:57 when you had contact with the car that slowed in front of you. It seems like you did what you could, but I'm confident that I'd have been able to swerve around him. Not that I'm better than you (I'm clearly not), it just seems that I get a quicker reaction with my controller input.

Again, you're doing really with it, and you're faster than me. The thing about the steering was just really noticeable to me. :)

@AUTISTICBOYX I'm gonna need a better look at that hood. :lol:

Thanks man, it’s starting be kinda fun making them already. I’d say you’re correct, it’s why I can’t drift with the wheel, I just can’t turn it fast enough lock to lock to keep the drift going. Maybe if you could easily adjust the turning radius to be less it would help. Like an F1 car.

Nice job navigating through the chaos! That was thrilling to watch.

Thanks man, it was a fun race, just wish I had made less mistakes. Having another go at it now. :)
 
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