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I had a chance to get out there and put down a few laps. I tried -2 to +2 and can confirm that +1 is the best. I put in a 2:00.421 with +1. I couldn't get below the mid 2:01's with the other settings. I might have been able to get into the high 2:00 with those settings, but I think I can break 2:00 with it at +1.



Never underestimate how much of a difference the brake balance can have and, as I have mentioned in the past, it's not necessarily linear. The Huracan, for instance, is good at -3, and not bad at 0, but between 0 and -3, it gets awful. I wholeheartedly recommend playing with your brake balance in practice for the races.

I think I was using -4 for the nsx, normally have it -3, haven't tried positive brake balance on it though
 
Somehow managed to improve my Suzuka Q time to 2:01.471. How, I have no idea. Has to be one of the messiest laps I've ever done.

Oh well, least I know I can definitely drop into the 2:00.xxx range.
 
Last one went pretty good so I guessed ....why not ? Jumped in another race C. Started 3rd. And ... Yep .... Pushed into the wall in turn one and the usual spin afterwards. I mean..... Come on !! Really ? And I think the one who punted me didn't even get a penalty for it. (By the way ....no brake check involved. I was aiming for the apex as I should have been)

I know ... I'm not the first to experience this and certainly not the last. But, it's getting ridiculous.

I guess I will concentrate on trying to better my Q time and just avoid the race. The clean vs dirty ratio is too much to handle for now. It's a shame though. I really liked that combo.
 
Thats a lot of Binning. One advice,stop thinking about the result. Just drive and you wouldnt bin it then. Focus on being clean helps as well.

Thinking back to the wins I have, this art of zen driving style was in my mind when I was racing. I just drove. Focused on the opportunities & take them. If it's the lead, great. But, run your race. Let the other drivers beat themselves.

Yay. Its not just me then. #bottledit

Can I join you guys' off road club? :dopey: #SpinCycle

This is PD's solution to the recent exploit:


That'll work.

Yep, leaderboards wiped and barrier put in place. Hats off to PD for reacting to this so quickly 👍 Interesting to see that they can put something onto the track without an update or server maintenance needed.

I agree. And yet there is scheduled to be some maintenance tonight. :boggled:

To all the doubters who assume that people with second accounts don't give a toss about keeping it clean - i don't change my driving style regardless of which account i'm using - i'm absolute filth all the time! :lol::lol: (joke!)

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I don't understand this. There is plenty of grip. Understeer is what happens if you go into a corner too fast, whether in reality of virtual. That old physics law of "a body in motion tends to stay in motion" applies. Yes. some cars will under steer, but it sure isn't at the catastrophic levels that this forum seems to make it. They understeer in the sense that they do not stay on the line you want them to stay on. It's a matter of a small difference in placement on track. In the real world, if I blow my braking point, I 100000% expect to end up under steering out into the grass.

Not to be disrespectful, but given your 2:04 Q time, I am going to say that you are doing something wrong and the game isn't to blame. Do you have the driving cones turned on? It seems like you do not. I know the cones get a lot of negative hype, but the cones help and why not use them if they help you understand brake points and turn in points better? Once you know them like the back of your hand, feel free to turn them off.

You are either overloading the fronts by turning in too fast/braking too late... OR ... you could be UNDER loading the fronts. You'll need to experiment to figure out which it is you are doing.

For instance, I found the R8 needed more weight on the front. I tried -1 and it was good. I tried -2 and it was better. I did a 1:59.7, but I just cold not break through. I finally tried -3 and I got down to 1:59.6 and I think I can get to 1:59.5

You could also be using the wrong car. The difference between my best R8 lap and my best Z4 lap is almost 2 seconds.

I made a post last night after my "not enough grip" comment. Not sure if you got to see it. I improved my Q time to 2:03.755 in a Ford GT & won a race. 👍 I fully acknowledge missing braking points plenty. I also acknowledge being in someone's draft & using my "normal" braking points with the cones (:sly:) & not having enough front downforce to help the car turn. As Bivittavus88 stated, it's when someone doesn't get the turn in that they want or expect. On the flip side, I have more difficulty when I get the speed & turn in right where I want them & go to power out of the corner. Typical racer mentality is get on the accelerator as soon as possible. When you're on the edge of adhesion & you want more grip to accelerate & there is none, you get the understeer blues. I wonder if I can get PD to officially sponsor me with their fictional Understeer brand? :lol:
 
Good to find this forum, first post here! Just got GT Sport 10 days ago. Did a couple of A race last week (best result 3º) and 4 or 5 B races with a Vette managing to get a first win. Now I´m DR D and SR A but I think my ranks raised too quick... I tried Suzuka on monday and got 2:07.x qualifying, last night improved to 2:03.8 but still far off the lap times that my race mates get. Did a race last night to check the pace and finished 13º improving 2 places due to people leaving the race. Is it always like this? Did this gap from newbies to better players seemed way to big for you too?
Yes mate, it absolutely did. I didn't touch Sport Mode apart from occasional attempts for a good couple months. I had only ever really played rally games and basically had to relearn to drive - taking the ideal line, keeping the car planted, slow in fast out, these things aren't a priority in rally, and I was especially bad for not using all the track as on a rally stage getting greedy with corner cutting leads to punctures or worse.

Finding GTP and this thread and signing up was a massive boost. We have some really fast and experienced racers in here who are willing to share their adventures and laps - keep an eye on this thread and absorb what you can.

My chief advice: drive with a fire in your heart and if it ain't fun, don't do it.

There's another massive skill cliff at rank B that I've just hit, so look forward to that. Also if you're in Europe/EMEA region, add me at UnwashedHeathen so we can see each other's laps.
 
Great racing today in A, we’re lapping in the 1:28’s all race. The draft here is huge, gotta break it quick or end up in a battle that never ends lol.

Not sure why they block out BB in the tuning menu, but then allow you to adjust it during the race. Anyways my BB is set at 3.
 
I think I was using -4 for the nsx, normally have it -3, haven't tried positive brake balance on it though

Ya, it just gets worse. As you move the brakes to the front.

Although it's not shown, I am sure weight bias is still a thing in the game. It seems to me that each car has different brake bias to begin with, so its "0" point doesn't necessarily mean equal braking, just the default for the car.

I move the bias forward for a lot of the front engine/rear drive cars so the tires spin less on corner exit, but you have to only do it to the point of not over cooking corner entry. A lot of the mid engined cars oversteer on corner entry, but from engine braking, not the brakes themselves. The Ferrari 458 Gr3 is the perfect example. On top of that, it's brakes are really good and it can go deeper into corners more than most. I only use -1 on it.

The point is, it's good to compare notes and see what others are using.

Righto chaps. Seem to have hit a bit of a plateau. Corvette (not changing, it sounds amazing) TCS 1. BB 0. Manual.

Pointers please.



Second half of Spoon needs work. Obviously.


That's pretty good!! You're already at a point that's fast for the Vette. Obviously, TCS will rob you of a little time. I think I have my Vette at 0 as well.

In general, I think you have to dive for those apexes a little more. You are a bit wide of the apex in a few spots, and that'll cost you a little here and there.
 
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3 Evening races with our new 2.02.999 QT.

Race 1. Start P5... OK... #bottledit #SpinCycle. With a little help from a Beetle. Managed to recover P6...

Race 2. Realised that most of my issues on L1 are downforce related, i.e. there is very little through the esses in traffic. Now I know to compensate. Start P3. P1&2 are Dr/A. They shoot off into the sunset. I've got a decent gap to P4... That is until Mr Dr/A in P2 bins it at Casio L2, resets and unghosts smack bang in the middle of where I'm about to go... Recover P8...

Race 3. Start P2!!! Here we go. P1 & I are 2s quicker than the rest of the field. IT. IS. ON.

Disconnected from the network...

I'm going to bed.
 
That's pretty good!! You're already at a point that's fast for the Vette. Obviously, TCS will rob you of a little time. I think I have my Vette at 0 as well.

In general, I think you have to dive for those apexes a little more. You are a bit wide of the apex in a few spots, and that'll cost you a little here and there.

Alright, back at it. If I'm already at a point that's fast for the Vette, I'll be happy to break under 2:01.
 
2:00.979. Currently 1064th in EMEA. With that, I'm going to call it a night. Work in the morning, and a meal with Sarah, her Mum, and Stepdad tomorrow evening.



Optimal was 2:00.924.

Hairpin wasn't great, a little too much rotation entering the first half of Spoon (not smooth enough coming off the brakes) and I should have stuck to the pit wall at the end of the lap. But, we're under the 2:01 barrier. At my skill level, I don't think I can get much more out of this car. A couple more tenths, maybe? We'll see on Friday.

Yeah the exit from Spoon ruins all my good Quali laps. It's downhill and off camber and pretty much the toughest corner in the game for me.

Bane of my life.

"Half a second up, are we? It'd be an awful shame if Spoon happened . . Again." :banghead:
 
Yeah the exit from Spoon ruins all my good Quali laps. It's downhill and off camber and pretty much the toughest corner in the game for me.

"Half a second up, are we? It'd be an awful shame if Spoon happened . . Again." :banghead:

I feel you. Took me all day to figure it out. 3rd gear. Hovering between 70-80mph. No faster. Hug that apex.

And you just know, the lap you get it right, altogether with pretty purple sectors across the board you'll get too excited and130R will suddenly eat you alive out of nowhere.
 
I feel you. Took me all day to figure it out. 3rd gear. Hovering between 70-80mph. No faster. Hug that apex.

And you just know, the lap you get it right, altogether with pretty purple sectors across the board you'll get too excited and130R will suddenly eat you alive out of nowhere.

It's all going well. Purple everything. Nail Spoon. Blitz 130R.

"Oh my god! This is going to be amazing!! . . aaaand, I've spun/outbraked myself at Casio."
 
2:00.979. Hairpin wasn't great, a little too much rotation entering the first half of Spoon (not smooth enough coming off the brakes) and I should have stuck to the pit wall at the end of the lap. But, we're under the 2:01 barrier. At my skill level, I don't think I can get much more out of this car. A couple more tenths, maybe? We'll see on Friday.

Bane of my life.

"Half a second up, are we? It'd be an awful shame if Spoon happened . . Again." :banghead:

:banghead: And I thought I was making progress. Geez. My best is now a 2:02.528 & I know there is possibly a half second that I left on the track.

From behind


And you're right, the Corvette sounds menacing. From spectator view.


It's all going well. Purple everything. Nail Spoon. Blitz 130R.

"Oh my god! This is going to be amazing!! . . aaaand, I've spun/outbraked myself at Casio."

Every. Dang. Time.
 
:banghead: And I thought I was making progress. Geez. My best is now a 2:02.528 & I know there is possibly a half second that I left on the track.

Top tips from me would be to brake slightly later, and less aggressively for turn one/two. Say 50%. All the way through, pretty much. Instead if two distinct braking areas, as you are now. That'll let you rotate the car, keep a bit tighter, and you'll get a better exit into the esses. That should be worth a couple tenths.

The last right in those esses, tap the brakes, turn in earlier, and hug the rumble strip. That will save a bit of time, and give you a better line into the uphill left, after it.

When you come to the second half of Spoon, brake earlier, and less aggressively. As with turn one/two. That will let you rotate more, hold a tighter line, and get on the power a bit sooner.

I'd also brake earlier for Casio, and keep it in 2nd gear.

All that said, Suzuka is infuriating. If you're anything like me, don't forget to take breaks when you're wanting to throw things at the TV, because you've binned it at Degner/Spoon/130R/Casio for the hundredth time :lol:
 
Top tips from me would be to brake slightly later, and less aggressively for turn one/two. Say 50%. All the way through, pretty much. Instead if two distinct braking areas, as you are now. That'll let you rotate the car, keep a bit tighter, and you'll get a better exit into the esses. That should be worth a couple tenths.

The last right in those esses, tap the brakes, turn in earlier, and hug the rumble strip. That will save a bit of time, and give you a better line into the uphill left, after it.

When you come to the second half of Spoon, brake earlier, and less aggressively. As with turn one/two. That will let you rotate more, hold a tighter line, and get on the power a bit sooner.

I'd also brake earlier for Casio, and keep it in 2nd gear.

All that said, Suzuka is infuriating. If you're anything like me, don't forget to take breaks when you're wanting to throw things at the TV, because you've binned it at Degner/Spoon/130R/Casio for the hundredth time :lol:

I'll give some of those tips a try. I'm currently on the computer doing other non-GT Sport related stuff (like uploading GT Sport videos :lol:). Do you have any advice for going easier on the brakes? I use a controller. No wheel here. :scared:
 
^^^Remember you can't win race in T1 but you can definitely end it ^^^
Everyone needs to know this. T1 niiiiice and easy. It's hard from the middle of the pack though- it's always the goobers in the bottom quartile who don't know what they're doing (yet, at least- I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) and torpedo 6 cars. But the front row and the guys in the back who didn't qualify were the only ones unscathed in two races I had.
 
Everyone needs to know this. T1 niiiiice and easy. It's hard from the middle of the pack though- it's always the goobers in the bottom quartile who don't know what they're doing (yet, at least- I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) and torpedo 6 cars. But the front row and the guys in the back who didn't qualify were the only ones unscathed in two races I had.

This has long been one of my main complaints of Sport Mode; the collision physics are inexcusably bad. Since there is no impact absorption, one rear-end collision will just start an indefinite forward chain reaction until someone is punted off.

The way cars ping-pong off each other is straight up unrealistic.
 
Everyone needs to know this. T1 niiiiice and easy. It's hard from the middle of the pack though- it's always the goobers in the bottom quartile who don't know what they're doing (yet, at least- I'll give them the benefit of the doubt) and torpedo 6 cars. But the front row and the guys in the back who didn't qualify were the only ones unscathed in two races I had.
Just wait until we have to deal with turn 1 in the rain. :lol:
 
Race C is a shambles. My experience was truly dreadful, with cars going all over the place and idiot mistakes aplenty. Even I suffered trying to make a no-stop strategy work. I struggle to handle the car with a manual, and I can't get the optimum pace on the hard tyre which means that I go backward. I made many mistakes with the no-stop strategy and I figured that it didn't work. So I switched to the "go-for-broke" strategy and went as fast as I could with the soft tyre and auto gears. No fuel saving and one stop. That worked very well for me and I got second place, despite starting first. I got turned around in the first 50 metres because someone couldn't handle the wheelspin. I don't think I can got through it all again.
 
I'll give some of those tips a try. I'm currently on the computer doing other non-GT Sport related stuff (like uploading GT Sport videos :lol:). Do you have any advice for going easier on the brakes? I use a controller. No wheel here. :scared:
I remember my days on the ds4, my advice on braking... When you are in Qualifying mode, try to only use “half brakes” on every corner, even if you have to increase your braking markers a bit. By doing this you will find that a lot of the time, your braking distance will be shorter by easing on the brakes just using half the pressure, rather than going all out 100%. It will take a while to get a feel for this, but you will learn to keep a bit more momentum improving your lap times.
 

I am finding there a disproportionately large DR spread for race C, which might have something to do with the 3 million CR you have to spend to enter the race.

Was in the same race as Akagi_1942mi last night, but the race had only 14 entrants with a few DR B and maybe one DR C driver. Add in a grid start with a slow T1 and it is a recipe for chaos.

It is still a pretty enjoyable race but I need more practice. Not yet fast enough and it is very easy to light up the rear tyres and spin off.
 
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