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Pigems
One thing I haven't seen anyone mention in the Daily/Weekly debate is that, in theory anyways, the racing should be at least slightly cleaner with week long races, with new races each day it wouldn’t give anyone much time to practice before going out to race, leading to more incidents on track would it not?
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In theory yes, but it kinda backfired. Monday and also Tuesday already are just a free for all mess. Then again on Saturday when those who only have time to race in the weekend jump in without practice.

At least with dailies you had a level playing field and while yes, it was also messy early, it cleaned up much faster than it does now without having this huge disparity in the weekend between week long drivers and those just jumping in.

But it is true that racing on Friday (before people start drinking) is cleaner than dailies ever were. Not all combos though. The ones where it's easy to cheat the penalty system, or where the SR budget is too high only get worse. People get more skilled in cheating and getting away with things as well :/

Why not compromise and have a staggered set up with one new combo every day, lasting 3 days each.
 
Bivittavus88
Righto chaps. Any tips for driving these MR things? I seem to be spinning on entry to the corner, mid corner, and on exit, in anything other than the RSR.
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I like the Genesis, runs right with the Porsche’s, a bit of short shifting and you can make it a no stop. Nice solid stable car with good brakes and turn in. 👍

Edit: I guess maybe I misunderstood the question. Just have to be smoother with the inputs on those MR cars, slower down shifts seems to help with some of them.
 
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Pigems
One thing I haven't seen anyone mention in the Daily/Weekly debate is that, in theory anyways, the racing should be at least slightly cleaner with week long races, with new races each day it wouldn’t give anyone much time to practice before going out to race, leading to more incidents on track would it not?
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You know also, it takes a race or three to start to get dialed in with what’s happening during the race, or at least it does for me.
A person like me with less than 350 online races under his belt is now starting to find what the game accepts and doesn’t accept.
At least on Brands, I have found it pretty good as far as pens etc. After doing several races I don’t have the indecision of should I defend this inside or can I attack at this time as much...
I like that it’s weeklong for many reasons.
Time spent in country for me has been valuable. Learning to battle a bit specifically on Brands has been fun...
I always get mad in the moment, like the brake checker guy waiting up for me wtf, bad day dude?
But after time I like the balance the game is striking on pens right now on Brands.
Brands at first to me was a track where I felt I was at the mercy of my opponents, anymore I am getting stronger at making assertive defenses when required. Like lap one...if I am starting say fifth and sixth decides to not try to run away with the leaders, it’s best to assertively defend and let that guy get gobbled up by the hungry pack behind...
People sometimes look at it (I am looking at you people named in many of my replays lol) as the first lap is their best chance to make a move, and guess what I don’t get a penalty from shutting the inside line completely if I am ahead...
I have learned a lot about defending this week and it’s been good.
Without a weekly I’d be like I love diving Brands but racing on it is lame or whatever...
Daily I’d be stuck where I was yesterday evening pissed off....
Brands is a fantastic track too...I’ll race there anytime for a week.
 
I just woke up and the clock said 7:30. I'm thinking that's weird. I don't usually sleep that late. Anyways, I made coffee and took a shower. Went outside with my coffee, and wondered why it was so damn warm this early in the morning. It reminded me of Bangkok. I also thought it was weird that I went to sleep without eating anything. Oh well. I turned on the computer, because I always check to see what you guys are up to in the morning, and saw that it was p.m. :O

Obviously I had too many beers. :cheers:

I guess I can do some night racing.... smh
 
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Really liking Sardegna in the Corvette. I tried a race and my 1:20.6 qualifying time only put me 18th on a grid full of A and A+ drivers. Ran the whole race on FM3 with short shifting and only finished with half a lap to spare. Managed to finish 11th though.
 
Decided to see how the M4 would do in Race B. Spent some time trying to beat my qualifying time with the Viper and managed to take 2 tenths off. Started a race after that and it was only good enough to put me 8th on the grid. 9 cars of which were Megan Trophy's. :rolleyes:

Only passed two cars because they messed up and went off. Finished 6th. Clean race though, and enough DR to rocket me past 50k to A+ status...

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praiano63
I was in the same 1:25 first but using the new option to load any top ten ghost , i've used the leaderboard 10th pos 1:23,9xx , stick to it checking where i could be faster and perform a 1:24.1xx .
This is a very good help.
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Please would you be able to tell me how you can download and use top ten leader board lap as a ghost?. Thank you
 
Please would you be able to tell me how you can download top 10 leaderboard lap time and use it as a ghost on your screen
 
Rotskeedy53
Please would you be able to tell me how you can download top 10 leaderboard lap time and use it as a ghost on your screen
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Go into the qualifying time trial and then go to the top 10 times. Click on the player you want and choose load ghost.
 
Voodoovaj
In the real world, yes, but this isn't the real world.

This is a simulation and fuel is just a resource that is consumed based on engine revs. If you downshift early, the engine revs will shoot up, even bounce off the rev limiter, and that fuel is consumed more rapidly.

This is why I also don't understand the desire to pass people if you are on the same pace. Being in someone's draft allows you to achieve the same speeds with fewer revs, thereby saving you fuel. That allows you to have more in reserve to charge away near the end.
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The reason why race cars have fire comming out of the muffler is because gaz still go in the combustion chamber (cylinder) on deceleration on road cars its different gaz go back to the tank on deceleration ;)
 
+1 for weekly races.
Maybe just plus 1 or 2 more races per week?
 
Pigems
Like this. :)
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We're going to start needing to pin that vid somewhere :lol:

Just did 3 morning races around the Hatch as a new DR/C... Heaven know's what I was thinking!

But it actually didn't go too badly...

Race 1. P12 > P9
Race 2. P10 > P8
Race 3. P10 > P10

For a Net DR change of around -250...

And it could have been worse. I went proper amateur around the outside of Hawthornes on that final race and had to recover back up from 15th. P8, P9 and myself were separated by 2 tenths at the line. It was fun.

Now to make some videos of it all...
 
JoeyLeonine
We're going to start needing to pin that vid somewhere :lol:

Just did 3 morning races around the Hatch as a new DR/C... Heaven know's what I was thinking!

But it actually didn't go too badly...

Race 1. P12 > P9
Race 2. P10 > P8
Race 3. P10 > P10

For a Net DR change of around -250...

And it could have been worse. I went proper amateur around the outside of Hawthornes on that final race and had to recover back up from 15th. P8, P9 and myself were separated by 2 tenths at the line. It was fun.

Now to make some videos of it all...
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You gained positions and lost 250 DR? I still don't get it how does this work...:dunce:
 
Finally starting to wrap my head around how the MR cars handle compared to my trusty Lexus. I am soo close to the 19s with the NSX, it’s killing me. I use -5 BB and it feels perfect, it’s also excellent on fuel and tires.

The Supra is really good too, but that turbo spooling up can make it tricky in the low speed stuff.
 
Kuraudo
You gained positions and lost 250 DR? I still don't get it how does this work...:dunce:
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That's something else that needs pinning somewhere! Improving your position from where you start has no bearing on DR. It's all about where you finish compared to the Driver Ratings of those in your race. The below explains it brilliantly. These are not my words but those of @Famine

For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

If you have, say, 20,000 DR and you finish one place ahead of a driver with, oooh, 50,000 DR, you gain 140 DR from them (and they lose 140 DR to you). You also gain that if you finish two places ahead, or three, or five, or 19. If you beat someone with 10,000 DR by one place, you gain 60 DR from them.
 
watto79
That's something else that needs pinning somewhere! Improving your position from where you start has no bearing on DR. It's all about where you finish compared to the Driver Ratings of those in your race. The below explains it brilliantly. These are not my words but those of @Famine

For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

If you have, say, 20,000 DR and you finish one place ahead of a driver with, oooh, 50,000 DR, you gain 140 DR from them (and they lose 140 DR to you). You also gain that if you finish two places ahead, or three, or five, or 19. If you beat someone with 10,000 DR by one place, you gain 60 DR from them.
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Thank you very much :cheers: :) . Copied and saved :) .
 
Sounds like that is why I hate race C this week in the asia region as I did some practice, got consistent, and then got blasted by the same crew of bash to pass I fight way too often. Same names, same tap-tap and side push tactics, all followed by same lack of penalties, or a small penalty that doesn't let me catch them. Still them keeping high to 99 SR.
Hemhorraged 2800 DR in 3 races. Despite finishing in 10th ish as an average. Mostly B drivers killing me with 2 A+ rabbits. Still can't g balance between fuel saving and racing right. Thinking of bailing on the week and practicing for maggiore next week before I drop down to C DR
 
MikeV27
Finally starting to wrap my head around how the MR cars handle compared to my trusty Lexus. I am soo close to the 19s with the NSX, it’s killing me. I use -5 BB and it feels perfect, it’s also excellent on fuel and tires.

The Supra is really good too, but that turbo spooling up can make it tricky in the low speed stuff.
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I managed a 19.7 in the NSX, though it was a lap that came out of nowhere during matching. There is more time in there (late shift at T5) but haven't had a chance to go at it again. I think I was running BB -2
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Egghaus88
Really liking Sardegna in the Corvette. I tried a race and my 1:20.6 qualifying time only put me 18th on a grid full of A and A+ drivers. Ran the whole race on FM3 with short shifting and only finished with half a lap to spare. Managed to finish 11th though.
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My 1:20.6 should give me a decent grid spot on a full B grid, then. Maybe I'll have a crack at racing at some point over the weekend.
 
Bivittavus88
My 1:20.6 should give me a decent grid spot on a full B grid, then. Maybe I'll have a crack at racing at some point over the weekend.
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On a full B grid you´re probably on pole. I´ve done 1:21.2 and yesterday started 3 races, all of them on the top 5 (Finished, 3rd, 7th and out of fuel and 2nd)

Redneckchef
Sounds like that is why I hate race C this week in the asia region as I did some practice, got consistent, and then got blasted by the same crew of bash to pass I fight way too often. Same names, same tap-tap and side push tactics, all followed by same lack of penalties, or a small penalty that doesn't let me catch them. Still them keeping high to 99 SR.
Hemhorraged 2800 DR in 3 races. Despite finishing in 10th ish as an average. Mostly B drivers killing me with 2 A+ rabbits. Still can't g balance between fuel saving and racing right. Thinking of bailing on the week and practicing for maggiore next week before I drop down to C DR
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Try to just let them pass and then chase close without trying to overtake. That will allow you to save more fuel by using draft and also avoid losing time battling around. They are probably gonna pit if they approach the race like that. I started 3rd last night, dropped to 7th while driving on FM3 and short shifting then got back to podium position after the stops (I´m not piting) If you do this, the other cars are probably faster on the straight so just brake on the outside and turn in to exit the corners right at their tail. Saw a lot of mistakes last night too, while I was cruising down the track the ones who choosed to fly and battle all the way made some spins and off track
 
Redneckchef
Sounds like that is why I hate race C this week in the asia region as I did some practice, got consistent, and then got blasted by the same crew of bash to pass I fight way too often. Same names, same tap-tap and side push tactics, all followed by same lack of penalties, or a small penalty that doesn't let me catch them. Still them keeping high to 99 SR.
Hemhorraged 2800 DR in 3 races. Despite finishing in 10th ish as an average. Mostly B drivers killing me with 2 A+ rabbits. Still can't g balance between fuel saving and racing right. Thinking of bailing on the week and practicing for maggiore next week before I drop down to C DR
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I too race in Asia. My experience has been that DR/B drivers are the ones most likely to mug you. They have been around long enough to know how to game the system, and with the penalty system the way it is, all that tap tap tapping from behind will serve to drop your SR while having no effect on theirs. Personally I'd like to see things go back to the begining where *both* people get penalised. Granted, it's not very fair on the person who isn't really at fault, but eventually it will get through people's thick heads that if you hit someone from behind, you get a penalty. If you brake check someone, you get a penalty. Most of the idiots will realise there isn't much to be gained by being a dick.
 
sturk0167
2 Japanese races next week, to make up for none this week. :lol:

A - N200 at Autopolis 3 laps
B - Gr.3 at Maggiore GP 4 laps
C - Gr.X at Fuji 14 laps (RS tires)
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What's everyone's guesses for the race A & C cars? I have Monday off work to wait for a delivery so hopefully can make the most of it on the GT Sport front.

For what it's worth, I think Japan for the win (Toyota 86 & Super Formula).
 
QC YALUM
The reason why race cars have fire comming out of the muffler is because gaz still go in the combustion chamber (cylinder) on deceleration on road cars its different gaz go back to the tank on deceleration ;)
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Yes, on my Golf, the "eco" dashboard app specifically gives me more economy when I coast in gear rather than if I put the car in neutral or engage the clutch to coast.

On my motorcycle (BMW 1600B ftw!!!) it's totally different. It snaps and pops when I lift and downshift. I'm hoping to change the exhaust at some point so it's not as muffled and, as a benefit, it will spit flames :D


@Pigems LOL, I had to read your "nails with hammers" comment a few times. I kept picturing you hammering your figernails!! I guess there's a deeper reason why I avoid the META cars :D
 
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Well, it only took me 362 tries, but it finally has happened. I always knew if I got the right car/track combo and got put into the right room after a good week of qualifying it could happen. And I've been close all week, finishing between 4th and 2nd all week.

This race I started 2nd in the Audi TT, was behind a Ferrari and it took me about half a lap to over take him and I eventually built up a 1.5 second lead. But 3/4 of the way through lap 3, he was on my tail and I was able to fend him off. Don't know if he's on here or not, but shout out to him and clean racing, he easily could have tapped me in the back or while trying to sneak on the inside a few times around the 4 right turns, could have just rammed me enough to throw me off the line.


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