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meekrab
So, a sportsmanship question. Was leading race A just now, was a little bit out of sorts, hit the brakes perhaps a bit early and got tapped going into the first hairpin. Not hard enough to spin me, but hard enough that the tapper easily came through the corner in first, and didn't even give a thought to letting me get the position back.

Fast forward to the other hairpin, first place left their braking too late and wound up well off-line at the exit, and I pulled past them on the exit (we're going identical speeds here and all down the straight):

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Obviously, if I were to move to the left and take a normal line, #1 would have the inside line into the next two corners and more or less easily regain first, so I simply drove straight on from here until the orange marking on the barricade at the end of the straight where I widened my line to brake for the corner. My thinking is I'm in the lead, I've already compromised my exit to leave room on the outside, they aren't entitled to any more track than I'm giving them here, but I could see how the driver of the blue car might feel this is not exactly the cleanest move. Thoughts?
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I agree with sturk, that i see nothing wrong with what you were doing. Different styles though. I would lift just enough to tuck in behind you asap after the turn turn, and try to pressure you into a mistake on one of the next few turns.

Got my time trimmed down a bit for A race. 2.14.028 with an optimal of 13.687. I'm getting better but is a slow and painful process this week.
 
sturk0167
Sounds good to me. As long as you don't hit him, I'd say do whatever you want. I wouldn't mind, if I was the blue car. I would just make sure I braked a touch later than you, and take the position in the corner, forcing you to either lose the spot or hit me. 👍
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Sounds good. To their credit, the blue car braked appropriately and we got through the corner without incident. :cheers:

Dairyworker
I agree with sturk, that i see nothing wrong with what you were doing. Different styles though. I would lift just enough to tuck in behind you asap after the turn turn, and try to pressure you into a mistake on one of the next few turns.
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That's exactly what I expected them to do, but instead they stayed alongside far too long, inched over towards me, then realized I wasn't budging and ended up with a really poor line into the next corner.
 
Had a 4th place finish in a strong field at Maggiore and finally went over 40K DR points for the first time. Spun the car in the uphill esses next race and dropped right back down, sitting at 39,712 again. I don't want to give up with the Vette but the AMG, 911 and Supra seem so superior. No idea how I set my 1:56.8 QT as I can't get anywhere near that in a race.
 
Egghaus,

In gr3 that tracks very tough because the air.
If it were a race c I would enter for sure. This week, I dunno, I haven’t felt in that race mode you know.
40k is a solid solid achievement so you oughta be happy.
I would take vette over 911 all day any day anywhere. The vette over time will be better. It’s easier.
Jmo
 
Got my C qualy to 1:21.9, need to download a ghost to hunt. :lol:
Tryed the Supra on maggiore, 1:57.5, that car feels like 3t kg boat. Just stupid :odd:
 
Pigems
Haha Naw it’s not usually that bad, maybe a crash every few laps or so with fast cars. This is just particularly hard to drive for whatever reason and I have hardly ever used it. After the first few I should eased off a bit or taken a brake, but by that point I was both frustrated and determined(stubborn :lol: ) to get the car around the track so kept at it lol. I’m just glad that when I finally did make it around that it was a better time than the one I was chasing. That would have really sucked to not beat it after all that. :lol:
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I feel your pain man, tried the Supra around Sardegna last week and it was a spin-out nightmare...

A great bit of advice, by the way, from David Perel's lap guide - never restart...
Just keep going. Sounds basic, but I started doing it from this week and it's made a yuge difference to my driving smoothness, frustration levels and lap times!
 
Pigems
Ah, so you’re still “it” then. ;) I have no doubts you’ll hit that mark or lower by tomorrow though. :cheers:

@sturk0167 This is me learning to drive the Supra, I told you I crash I lot! :lol:

I did score a 57.5 in the end though, but man, that’s one wild ride!! :)
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i feel your pain. I gave up with the Supra - stuck to the 911, but have also found the R8 solid to drive round there. I watched a David Perel video the other day and he suggests to not click retry when you're lapping but just get back on track and keep going - I tried that and i have to say, i think it helps you get into a rhythm and also you get to cover all areas of the track every time even if you do screw up some corners 👍

EDIT: just seen the response above... that pesky Perel kid is all over us!
 
Leftcurl
i feel your pain. I gave up with the Supra - stuck to the 911, but have also found the R8 solid to drive round there. I watched a David Perel video the other day and he suggests to not click retry when you're lapping but just get back on track and keep going - I tried that and i have to say, i think it helps you get into a rhythm and also you get to cover all areas of the track every time even if you do screw up some corners 👍

EDIT: just seen the response above... that pesky Perel kid is all over us!
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Great minds... :)
 
Continuing my tour of circuit learning using the Group 3 Ferrari, recent Suzuka and Interlagos events have seen a 2 second improvement in qualy time from previous runnings of the same events (since latest physics and BoP updates).
Kudosprime told me that last time we had Lago Maggiore the time was 1m58.9, I thought 'no way am I getting this below 1m57', but went for it anyhow as any improvement would be good.

 
Johnny Dean
A great bit of advice, by the way, from David Perel's lap guide - never restart...
Just keep going. Sounds basic, but I started doing it from this week and it's made a yuge difference to my driving smoothness, frustration levels and lap times!
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This.

Restarting whenever I cock up, always means I learn the track up to the point where I bin it. Get back on track, take the rest of the lap easy (sometimes the whole next lap) and then flat out again.

Mistah_MCA
Shameless plug I'm doing a 1 Hour of Mount Panorama event on 28 July (practice/quali: 4PM PST, race starts at 5 PM PST), and wanted to extend the invitation to you folks. :) Details are here.

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As with @Leftcurl I'm 8 hours ahead. Definitely doable. Need to check a few things, first. Mainly, am I working the day after? :lol:
 
Edit: Double post.

Blame mobile signal in North Wales.
 
Rough morning for me, other people’s mistakes are psyching me out and then I make a mistake lol. I either spin out trying to avoid hitting the guy or someone comes back onto the track in a really ****** way and I cannot avoid them in time.

That’s what I get for not doing qualifying.
 
Groundfish
Egghaus,

In gr3 that tracks very tough because the air.
If it were a race c I would enter for sure. This week, I dunno, I haven’t felt in that race mode you know.
40k is a solid solid achievement so you oughta be happy.
I would take vette over 911 all day any day anywhere. The vette over time will be better. It’s easier.
Jmo
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I really didn't think dirty air was a thing in the game. The Vette already pushes the nose in some corners here and it gets even worse in the race. I don't know if it is more affected than other cars. I really notice it coming out of the uphill esses and the flat out section after the downhill right hander (not sure of the turn numbers), the tires are just screaming when I keep my foot down through these.
 
Bivittavus88
Braking for the final turn is always tricky. Especially in a race scenario. It really depends on whether you want to take a tight, or wide line to the apex.
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Yep, that back half of Fuji is just a nightmare for the first couple of laps if you're trying to take the racing line because of all the morons who have "If You No Longer Go For The Gap, You Are No Longer A Racing Driver" tattooed on their faces. :rolleyes:

I went hotlapping for 20 minutes or so and managed a 1:22.3, but my optimal lap is a 1:21.9. Sigh...
 
Mistah_MCA
Shameless plug I'm doing a 1 Hour of Mount Panorama event on 28 July (practice/quali: 4PM PST, race starts at 5 PM PST), and wanted to extend the invitation to you folks. :) Details are here.

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Oh this could be fun...

I'll be the same as @Bivittavus88 & @Leftcurl - so that'll be midnight Sunday > 2am Monday morning, right chaps?

Wifey will be away, little lad will be in bed, no work the next day... Do-able! Just need to remember to stay awake!
 
Egghaus88
I really didn't think dirty air was a thing in the game. The Vette already pushes the nose in some corners here and it gets even worse in the race. I don't know if it is more affected than other cars. I really notice it coming out of the uphill esses and the flat out section after the downhill right hander (not sure of the turn numbers), the tires are just screaming when I keep my foot down through these.
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I just ran the race first time. Winner was Mercedes who ran 56.9 best lap. I started third behind a Supra and Mercedes. Someone said the Mercedes was bad, nah it’s fine.
I dunno if you run wheel, but on wheel I feel the buffeting of dirty air.
My vette drove well, but I usually go abs weak in race, and went to default, and I run tcs 2. My best lap was 58.5, but I had little mistakes all over.
I cut the inside of turn 1 a bit too much and took a .5.
I find if I’m not perfectly in the line where the grip is on the Pd designed tracks I have to lift or brake tap due to camber of track. Also the car handles really good, but on turn in you gotta be slow and progressive with the wheel.
I kinda feel tcs 2 is maybe not ultimately fastest but over time it’s better for me for a variety of reasons.
I’d rather just be a little slow on mistakes opposed to spinning off or losing control and hitting someone.

@sturk

Yahoo! You’re all clear kid let’s blow this thing :)
 
Groundfish
I just ran the race first time. Winner was Mercedes who ran 56.9 best lap. I started third behind a Supra and Mercedes. Someone said the Mercedes was bad, nah it’s fine.
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That was me, I was wrong, just struggling with the RH and the new grip model. Ran a 1.58.4 in qualy with it which is 2/10ths faster than the 911 for me anyway. Cannot get the Supra to work for me at all, lose way too much time through the esses. Still feel i am missing half a second or so, I am well over 3.5 seconds off the top time, i'd expect to be closer to 2.5%.

Really feel Maggiore needs a wheel, it's so tough with a controller, you either absolutely nail the entry to the esses or there's no recovering it and you lose gobs of time.
 
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