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[Alpha Cipher]

Shoutout to [censored] and [censored]! Met them in the same race
And then there's this guy named TamasToth who qualified P2 behind me. He told me post-race that he was my defender (taking the bumps and penalties). I wanted to thank him for that but the timer expired and his PSN is private, so I'll just give him a shoutout here as well

That said, jesus the M4 is OP... I didn't even have to go beyond fuel map 3 and I even had 3 laps where I was fuel map 1 for the whole lap (one of them no shortshifting even)
I won with an enormous 21 second lead over the rest... and that was an exclusively A/S lobby...

 

[WPF1_1980]

what are the total race times you guys are running when youre doing a fuel saving run and not pitting? how much time do you really save vs going all out and making 1 pit stop?

 

[Nuschel01]

Shoutout

Shhhh

 

[xxxman1]

That said, jesus the M4 is OP... I didn't even have to go beyond fuel map 3 and I even had 3 laps where I was fuel map 1 for the whole lap (one of them no shortshifting even)
I won with an enormous 21 second lead over the rest... and that was an exclusively A/S lobby...

That’s why my TT can’t compete with M4 at all. Though I was not fast enough

I adjust the fuel to 4/5 for curves and 2/3 for straight. 1 for the last two laps. Lost 6s to 2 M4. When I cross the line. Empty tank in the TT.

Hope the OP and shortshift of M4 would be cured in next week update. Otherwise Gr4 race would become M4 one make one day.

 

[Invisigoth]

I fair pretty well in Big Willow. A lot of people don't know how to drive that course, so they either fall in the sand traps or they drive scared and are easy to pass.

The second one would be me. I take it cautious at the S and always worry about centrifugal force spitting me out on the second of the last double curves.

Just finished Race C. I was expecting there to be a whole bunch of M4s. That seems to be the trend for Gr4 races with fuel and tyres (I refuse to call them endurance races). There was only 2 M4s , might have been a sneaky 3rd. Was a nice mix. I managed to qualify 5th with the NSX, a 2:14.something. Mix of DR/A, B and D. For some reason I am rarely matched against Cs. Finished 5th. Was happy with that. Struggled to give a couple of people room and nudged them off. Wasn't happy about that. I expect some might refer to me as a menace.

 

[ststav01]

Well, today was the first time I experienced brake testing .... some guy on the final straight (Suzuka) decided to brake test me and I spun.....the silly thing was I was 4th almost going to overtake the 3rd and then I made a mistake - spun - gone last, and then this guy brake tested me - it was ridiculous... (DR mid A ~39K SR - S)

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Shhhh

Oh okay sorry
OH OKAY I GET IT

That’s why my TT can’t compete with M4 at all. Though I was not fast enough

I adjust the fuel to 4/5 for curves and 2/3 for straight. 1 for the last two laps. Lost 6s to 2 M4. When I cross the line. Empty tank in the TT.

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Hope the OP and shortshift of M4 would be cured in next week update. Otherwise Gr4 race would become M4 one make one day.

It already is on the EU My last race literally only had 3 cars other than the M4 (Huracan, Atenza, and Genesis)
Apparently when everyone else found out that the M4 is better on fuel economy it went from 50/50 TT and M4 to an M4 cup (not that I was helping to cure the problem )

Also, sorry but can you please censor the names you quoted from my post? Hehe thank you

 

[TamasToth]

Shoutout to [censored] and [censored]! Met them in the same race
And then there's this guy named TamasToth who qualified P2 behind me. He told me post-race that he was my defender (taking the bumps and penalties). I wanted to thank him for that but the timer expired and his PSN is private, so I'll just give him a shoutout here as well

That said, jesus the M4 is OP... I didn't even have to go beyond fuel map 3 and I even had 3 laps where I was fuel map 1 for the whole lap (one of them no shortshifting even)
I won with an enormous 21 second lead over the rest... and that was an exclusively A/S lobby...

Was an interesting race... I mentioned the whole thing not that you have to thank anything, or say sorry, it was just happening
We were likely trying to do the same way, but there are always some inpatient racers who wants to do everything in the first lap. I was not slower definitelly than you, just wanted to build some safe space between us, but in the middle of the 1st lap, the 2 behind me started to rush. I was touched 2 times without me anything more to do as left plenty of space for the ones wanted to pit... But I received 1+2 sec penalties. That pretty ruined the chance to go with you - thats why I mentioned (as you couldn't see whats happening behind).
Though it could be interesting to go together, because we are approaching the same goal quite differently: I was not bothering with the fuel map at all, just shifted at 5500 - 6000, and this way there was saved fuel for some more laps, so I could shift a little later.

 

[Mikail Hizal]

2:06.3 with the lexus for me hehe

 

[TamasToth]

Well, today was the first time I experienced brake testing .... some guy on the final straight (Suzuka) decided to brake test me and I spun.....the silly thing was I was 4th almost going to overtake the 3rd and then I made a mistake - spun - gone last, and then this guy brake tested me - it was ridiculous... (DR mid A ~39K SR - S)

Maybe that was me? As I wrote earlier, I received 3s penalties because 2 opponent passed me with touch. At the end of the lap I wanted to serve it on the straight, but someone was getting behind me slipstreaming. I touched the brake pedal first, just to "say" somehow that I will slow down. Then the follower went on the other side, I served the penalty - but didn't notice anybody was spun.

 

[xxxman1]

2:06.3 with the lexus for me hehe

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Was an interesting race... I mentioned the whole thing not that you have to thank anything, or say sorry, it was just happening
We were likely trying to do the same way, but there are always some inpatient racers who wants to do everything in the first lap. I was not slower definitelly than you, just wanted to build some safe space between us, but in the middle of the 1st lap, the 2 behind me started to rush. I was touched 2 times without me anything more to do as left plenty of space for the ones wanted to pit... But I received 1+2 sec penalties. That pretty ruined the chance to go with you - thats why I mentioned (as you couldn't see whats happening behind).
Though it could be interesting to go together, because we are approaching the same goal quite differently: I was not bothering with the fuel map at all, just shifted at 5500 - 6000, and this way there was saved fuel for some more laps, so I could shift a little later.

That's really early shifting! I shift later at around 6500 since I think the powerband drops off at 5000, so I wouldn't last the race without fuel maps
I eventually managed to just adjust it to 3 on the esses though
Yeah, I couldn't see much from behind besides you. Would've loved to race against you if it weren't for those behind you

2:06.3 with the lexus for me hehe

Oh my

 

[TamasToth]

Anyhow, this is a good example why this penalty system is not absolutely OK. I did _everything_ to avoid any incident, I was not significantly slow, left room, etc. I won a race earlier with 10s of gap, started the second race as I will go for a clean one, as a fellow GTP-er was in pole. Didn't want to rush and win again*, just go for another clean one. Ruined. And it seems that the only safe way to build up clean races is "manipulating", in normal circumstances I can not.
* I don't want to say winning or not is my decision, as Alpha was (and others could be) very quick - just wanted to say I was not intended to... (English is not my mothertongue, so I may not use the right expressions.)

 

[Satomiblood]

The second one would be me. I take it cautious at the S and always worry about centrifugal force spitting me out on the second of the last double curves.

I take the inside at that point and do rapid and repeated gas-break taps until I clear the turn. That's what allows me to pass some people because they either dramatically slow down or hit the sand. If I get hit from behind, it's usually not enough to launch me into the sand.

 

[TamasToth]

That's really early shifting!

Yes, definitely. I have no more time to test it, it was the first time to try it, and started it from the safe side. If I'd go on, then maybe should try to shift later, between 6000 - 6500, as there were lot of fuel left this way. But it's enough for me now. (And believe it or not, this was enough to easily win a race. This is not normal, this more of a bug than a feature - I think.)

 

[ststav01]

Maybe that was me? As I wrote earlier, I received 3s penalties because 2 opponent passed me with touch. At the end of the lap I wanted to serve it on the straight, but someone was getting behind me slipstreaming. I touched the brake pedal first, just to "say" somehow that I will slow down. Then the follower went on the other side, I served the penalty - but didn't notice anybody was spun.

Hm, not sure about that, the strangest thing was that the car was ghosted, I was half way through it and then it became "real" again, but no hit was registered - then the brake happened, maybe lag issues, I don't really know.

 

[TamasToth]

Hm, not sure about that, the strangest thing was that the car was ghosted, I was half way through it and then it became "real" again, but no hit was registered - then the brake happened, maybe lag issues, I don't really know.

I was in a green-yellow colorshiFted M4, my name is on the back. If I was the cause, then apologize. First I wanted to switch right-turn-signal, but I thought a tad of brakelight is better warning.
By the way, what is the well known, correct sign in a situation like this?
(added the missing F, sorry.)

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Yes, definitely. I have no more time to test it, it was the first time to try it, and started it from the safe side. If I'd go on, then maybe should try to shift later, between 6000 - 6500, as there were lot of fuel left this way. But it's enough for me now. (And believe it or not, this was enough to easily win a race. This is not normal, this more of a bug than a feature - I think.)

Theoretically you can do this with any turbo and low-revving car. It just so happened that the powerband of the M4 is really flat from 5000 all the way to the redline. But I think the powerband itself is bugged (isn't supposed to be like that. Maybe PD overlooked something there?)

 

[ststav01]

I was in a green-yellow color****ed M4, my name is on the back. If I was the cause, then apologize. First I wanted to switch right-turn-signal, but I thought a tad of brakelight is better warning.
By the way, what is the well known, correct sign in a situation like this?

if your nick is the same as here in GTP - then it wasn't you - the guy had some numbers at the end of his nickname

 

[Sven Jurgens]

More battery power stored and ready for boosting the car. Brake more but less and fill the battery to get the same boost

Are you pulling my leg? What battery? I thought maybe different timing in shifting gears.

 

[Suntek]

Stuck on "Loading track.." on Big Willow for like 10 mins now...
Anybody had something similar?
I'm 2nd on grid and I'm afraid if I DC my Sr is gonna nosedive from S..

 

[Nuschel01]

Are you pulling my leg? What battery? I thought maybe different timing in shifting gears.

Hybrid power

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Are you pulling my leg? What battery? I thought maybe different timing in shifting gears.

Maybe his braking point was different enough that he stores more charge than you on exit? That might be why his hybrid power is still active whereas yours is depleted

 

[TamasToth]

Theoretically you can do this with any turbo and low-revving car. It just so happened that the powerband of the M4 is really flat from 5000 all the way to the redline. But I think the powerband itself is bugged (isn't supposed to be like that. Maybe PD overlooked something there?)

In theory it is OK. In practice (irl) it should be far less fuel-savvy. But I don’t own an M4, so maybe it’s all that economy class vehicle under 5500

if your nick is the same as here in GTP - then it wasn't you - the guy had some numbers at the end of his nickname

Huh. I feel less shamed. Same name, no numbers.

 

[UnkaD]

Really clicked with the Alfa in yesterday's A-race. Managed a top-10 time that remained hours afterward. Got placed constantly with fields that didn't really challenge me and milked it for all I could.

Gotta get those poles and wins for the psn trophies. Must have gotten maybe 12 or so before I had to leave for something. One race I finished 25 seconds clear of 2nd place.

I know it's not really racing, but these moments are far too valuable for me to let slip by now that I'm in dr.A. I get enough honest racing already. Don't judge me!

But seriously, does the game reward top qualifying times on purpose? I've always noticed that there is often one really quick driver that doesn't seem to belong, and all yesterday I was one of them. Had two races where 2nd place was within a seond of my lap times.

 

[John Crellin]

In theory it is OK. In practice (irl) it should be far less fuel-savvy. But I don’t own an M4, so maybe it’s all that economy class vehicle under 5500

These are the kind of fudged fuel economy numbers your would expect from VW or Audi not BMW

Are you pulling my leg? What battery? I thought maybe different timing in shifting gears.

Apparently the Hybrid cars charge their batteries in braking like in real life. The Toyota hybrid has a battery meter in cockpit view that you can watch these dynamics take place. The Porsche seems to have better battery power/charging characteristics, so the power loss is not as noticeable as the other hybrids which is why it is so strong in the dailies. The guy who passed you must have recharged more power/ saved more power before flooring it behind you

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Maybe his braking point was different enough that he stores more charge than you on exit? That might be why his hybrid power is still active whereas yours is depleted

I guess I'm a noob on hybrid power as I have no clue what you 2 are talking about
You brake differently and then you get more acceleration on exit? That's all new to me. Is there an indication on the dashboard of this charge?

 

[John Crellin]

I guess I'm a noob on hybrid power as I have no clue what you 2 are talking about
You brake differently and then you get more acceleration on exit? That's all new to me. Is there an indication on the dashboard of this charge?

Hybrids ingeniously use kinetic energy to charge their batteries. they transfer the forward momentum into either a set of capacitors or a mechanical flywheel which charges the battery. The longer you brake the more energy you can transfer and the more power you store. IRL its best to use early braking to get the most out of the hybrid engine. This is because the regenerative brakes only apply so much braking force before the friction pads have to take over. I'm not sure what the best strategy in the game is. Im curious as well...

 

[Lord Grey]

Stuck on "Loading track.." on Big Willow for like 10 mins now...
Anybody had something similar?
I'm 2nd on grid and I'm afraid if I DC my Sr is gonna nosedive from S..

That's happened to me twice. After waiting five minutes each time, I just quit GT Sport and went back into it. No repercussions, as far as I could tell.

 

[CurbHog]

Maybe that was me? As I wrote earlier, I received 3s penalties because 2 opponent passed me with touch. At the end of the lap I wanted to serve it on the straight, but someone was getting behind me slipstreaming. I touched the brake pedal first, just to "say" somehow that I will slow down. Then the follower went on the other side, I served the penalty - but didn't notice anybody was spun.

Does it matter if you serve it or if you drive over the line and let it be deducted?