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Adam Barber
The sport hasn't exactly got the best reputation outside the US, we just laugh at NASCAR in the UK for a large part, just need to turn right to make it better :lol::lol:

Edit: the cars aren't exactly very advanced either, pretty sure they still use carburettors or at least did until recently
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They're fuel injected, now.
I understand what you meant, and I understand the perception of Nascar on other continents. However, let's see how Formula 1 drivers do with 2,000 lbs added to their car and almost no downforce.
The idea that Nascar drivers aren't real racers is like judging a fish by it's ability to climb a tree.
It's just different. That's all.
 
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The Miata is fun! It’s nice to see an actual new combo for once. :)

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NoStopN
I know my 3rd account didn't show on KP until I had at least 5 days logged into the game. Make sure that you are spelling it correctly.
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I had read about the 5 day delay, so I waited until 11 days had passed before asking. Spelling is correct as far as I can tell. Thanks for the reply.
 
sturk0167
They're fuel injected, now.
I understand what you meant, and I understand the perception of Nascar on other continents. However, let's see how Formula drivers do with 2,000 lbs added to their car and almost no downforce.
The idea that Nascar drivers aren't real racers is like judging a fish on it's ability to climb trees.
It's just different. That's all.
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Further if you’ve never driven a racecar on a banked oval you got no idea of nothin.
The forces sustained by the driver are tremendous. On a little banked oval in a late model v8 I was shocked at the difficulty. Shocked. That’s tube frame under 500hp racecar, prolly tuned pig rich and the forces were astonishing.
Before I ever tried it I laughed also.
Honestly you cant imagine how much skill and strength and concentration it takes to do what they do.
It’s unthinkably difficult to even work the steering and pedals right under those g forces!
(That’s on the baby oval in a late model)
When I went several participants pulled over, couldn’t get back in pits they so scared.
 
Groundfish
Further if you’ve never driven a racecar on a banked oval you got no idea of nothin.
The forces sustained by the driver are tremendous. On a little banked oval in a late model v8 I was shocked at the difficulty. Shocked. That’s tube frame under 500hp racecar, prolly tuned pig rich and the forces were astonishing.
Before I ever tried it I laughed also.
Honestly you cant imagine how much skill and strength and concentration it takes to do what they do.
It’s unthinkably difficult to even work the steering and pedals right under those g forces!
(That’s on the baby oval in a late model)
When I went several participants pulled over, couldn’t get back in pits they so scared.
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Yes, and anyone questioning the difficulty should look at how different drivers fared when they tried it. Juan Montoya, Dario Franchitti, Kimi Raikkonen had a go at their truck series and struggled. It is a different type of racing requiring a drastically different skill set. Just review how everyone did at BMB and how much different it would be running that kind of thing for 30 times longer.
I would still call rally drivers the kings of car control though. They are mental
 
sturk0167
They're fuel injected, now.
I understand what you meant, and I understand the perception of Nascar on other continents. However, let's see how Formula drivers do with 2,000 lbs added to their car and almost no downforce.
The idea that Nascar drivers aren't real racers is like judging a fish by it's ability to a climb tree.
It's just different. That's all.
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Fair point to win championships you need to be really good as the basics are simple
 
Redneckchef
Yes, and anyone questioning the difficulty should look at how different drivers fared when they tried it. Juan Montoya, Dario Franchitti, Kimi Raikkonen had a go at their truck series and struggled. It is a different type of racing requiring a drastically different skill set. Just review how everyone did at BMB and how much different it would be running that kind of thing for 30 times longer.
I would still call rally drivers the kings of car control though. They are mental
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If nothing else, Rally drivers definitely have the biggest balls out of all race drivers. 👍 Them fellas is 🤬 Nuts! :lol:
 
NevilleNobody
This makes zero sense. I am just under 30000 points and I gained or stayed steady last week running 41s in B rooms. You should be killing it running 39s against low B drivers.
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It’s because of odd circumstances, dumb penalties, or one or two small mistakes that either cause a large amount of positions lost or a large spin. My pace was good for consistent podiums but my screwups or mishaps are what threw me down the ladder.
 
sturk0167
WTF WAS THAT!!!???


I'm seriously questioning this track design. That's just stupid.
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Best handbrake 180 I have ever seen!:cheers::lol:
Seriously though. I think there is a barrier like that on a different track as well and it is totally:censored:. Anyone catching it like that should be given extra DR or SR to stop you killing the PS4.
 
sturk0167
WTF WAS THAT!!!???


I'm seriously questioning this track design. That's just stupid.
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Damn ninjas. Seriously scary though, heck of a blind spot (I believe it's the red, round thing).

Did 1 Race A this morning. QT 2:00.7. Started 3rd. Finished 4th. Avoided some swerving, otherwise very clean, hard racing. 👍
 
sturk0167
They're fuel injected, now.
I understand what you meant, and I understand the perception of Nascar on other continents. However, let's see how Formula drivers do with 2,000 lbs added to their car and almost no downforce.
The idea that Nascar drivers aren't real racers is like judging a fish by it's ability to a climb tree.
It's just different. That's all.
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It kinda makes a mockery of it's origin. Any fool knows that if you only make left turns with a trunk full of 'shine, Rosco P Coltraine is gunna git ya!
 
Quakebass
It’s because of odd circumstances, dumb penalties, or one or two small mistakes that either cause a large amount of positions lost or a large spin. My pace was good for consistent podiums but my screwups or mishaps are what threw me down the ladder.
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This was exactly my experience. I had the pace to be a mid-B driver, but not the consistency. So I stayed at C until I figured it out. It’s kind of the same thing for me now. I have solid DR A pace at times, but I lack consistency when pushing it to that speed. So I’m back visiting DR B until I figure it out again.

Edit: when DTS was up for gr 4 a while back, I had DR B pace and was consistently the pole sitter or P2 in DR B/C rooms. Got a bunch of wins. Stayed at C because of what happened at the races I didn’t win. I don’t often win these days, but I have a lot more top 5*** finishes.

***Except in DRWF. Those arseholes are fast and consistent.
 
Looks like a clean race in C only gains you 11 SR..... the struggle back begins.

EDIT - This system is EFFED. 2 orange dings because someone hits you from behind = 20 SR drop. Absolute trash of a system. Sorry... wrong thread but just giving people a head's up. Garbage.
 
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Very proud to have put my merc on p4, p4, p3 in 3 races at monza, the only non gt-r in the top10 (God, that thing is fast on the straight!). I Don t think I can do much more than that starting from p10 or p11, gotta work on my lap time.
The race I got the podium was the more fun I had in gts in the last week, a truly epic 4 lap long battle with a very clean Norwegian guy.
 
Spare a thought for me...

Trying to set a competitive quali in the Mazda race to help preserve my newly acquired DR A (I've peaked, btw ) for 40 minutes or so and I can't get it much below 1.59.00

Time to check the replays.

You really have to rev the poop out of this thing don't you? Needless to say my practice paid off and now I'm ahead of every single B rated driver in my friends list.

My new time got me a 4th and a 6th grid position, the latter in a 10A 2A+ lobby where I finished 3rd.

Loving this week's races!
 
Adam Barber
The sport hasn't exactly got the best reputation outside the US, we just laugh at NASCAR in the UK for a large part, just need to turn right to make it better :lol::lol:

Edit: the cars aren't exactly very advanced either, pretty sure they still use carburettors or at least did until recently
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It doesn’t have the best reputation within the US either outside of their fanbase. It has a looooong history of racism.
 
Redneckchef
Yes, and anyone questioning the difficulty should look at how different drivers fared when they tried it. Juan Montoya, Dario Franchitti, Kimi Raikkonen had a go at their truck series and struggled. It is a different type of racing requiring a drastically different skill set. Just review how everyone did at BMB and how much different it would be running that kind of thing for 30 times longer.
I would still call rally drivers the kings of car control though. They are mental
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I like NASCAR but I don't know about that. An overweight and past it Montoya ran competitively on the ovals and so did Marcos Ambrose relatively with no prior experience to my knowledge, and without high level equipment. He did go on to destroy at road courses though.

I'd contend drivers from disciplines that have both left and right turns have a better chance at being competitive in NASCAR than NASCAR drivers do in turn.
 
Alright, how’s 2:00.127? That’s my new best time for Race A. It feels like everybody’s too pushy, though, but maybe I’m making the mistake of trying to pass in areas where I really shouldn’t be trying to go two-wide like turn 1 on the second or third lap. Especially with all the straight track for this layout.

EDIT: And what about using the SLS-AMG at Monza for Race C?
 
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pennanton
I like NASCAR but I don't know about that. An overweight and past it Montoya ran competitively on the ovals and so did Marcos Ambrose relatively with no prior experience to my knowledge, and without high level equipment. He did go on to destroy at road courses though.

I'd contend drivers from disciplines that have both left and right turns have a better chance at being competitive in NASCAR than NASCAR drivers do in turn.
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They both got better, but it took a couple of years for both to get up to speed on the ovals. Ambrose wasn't coming from a massively different background so his success on the road courses was not a surprise. Both also did well on the short tracks as those take the same type of style that makes you fast on the road courses. At least that's what all the drivers say.

I don't think nascar drivers would switch disciplines well at all either. It takes time to adapt to switching equipment and learning the different nuances. It just means it isn't always as easy as it may look. Also doesnt help that they are often older. But they tend to do well moonlighting in sports car series and things like Daytona 24 hours, so I wouldn't discount their skill.

I also think Nascar needs more road courses in the top series. Watching them rip it up around Watkins Glen is always good.
 
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