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LVS_1986
Just got sended outerspace, guy wasnt even braking and got 3s penalty, wtf? Back to sr A... Asseto Corsa Competizione is coming, anybody know is there penalty system which works? This one in GTS is a joke
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I only have about 3 hours on track, but even watching on youtube etc. I haven't see ACC assign time penalties for contact at all, just drops both drivers' safety rating, which takes a long time (several hours of clean driving) to build up to where you can even race in most online lobbies with other safe drivers.
 
LVS_1986
Just got sended outerspace, guy wasnt even braking and got 3s penalty, wtf? Back to sr A... Asseto Corsa Competizione is coming, anybody know is there penalty system which works? This one in GTS is a joke

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Btw. Got another stupid race with stupid penaltys and stupid people... Im done for now, maybe some day Ill be back in GTSport, Real Driving Simulator my 🤬
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I like how they are using the cones but they anyway brake 50 meters after :lol:

Some people really don't know what they are doing in this game. Even if they were distracted, which can happen, in this case they had plenty of time and space to do something else other than try to make the corner regardless and do a mess.
 
I finished race A in 4th place with a 3 second penalty, 5th came in 1 second later with a 2 second penalty, we swapped places on the board with the exact same race time.
 
fisheye
I finished race A in 4th place with a 3 second penalty, 5th came in 1 second later with a 2 second penalty, we swapped places on the board with the exact same race time.
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My understanding was that penalty time gets doubled if you finish the race without serving it, so you'd get six seconds added and 5th would get 4, and finish 1 second ahead.
 
Well the bumps and bruises in Race B, and a bad race to cap it off lead for me to drop to A SR

which meant a pole position/fastest lap/clean/win next race. Lol thanks PD! And the driver in 2nd, who I’ve raced before who gave me space Lap1:)
P2 next race, fun while it lasted lol, back to the S
 
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Really enjoyed the new Daily Race A at Tokyo and Race C at Sardegna today. Nabbed a couple of wins, and couple of poles, in the GReddy Fugu Z, and a second place. Got placed in harder and harder lobbies but still managed to keep it up front. Was really able to capitalize on being faster even when people tried to take you out on occasion, it was possible to pull away if you drove a defensive line. The older car was really super to drive... just keep half throttle on in the turns, and it will grab hold and drive away, building up enough cushion at the end of the straights that you can still gap the newer faster cars. The diff is helping a ton...

Ran one Race C, in a TT, the only car I practiced with, in a tougher lobby where I was qualified 8th or so but ran up to 4th before I had to concede it to a fair racing but faster Subaru. Tire wear wasn't a problem with the Hards and the shorter race. It was pretty interesting to see the variety of cars all pretty competitive: Vipers, the Subie, me in the TT, Ferraris, I don't think there were even any RCZ's...

Good productive day, solidly booked my K' targets for the two races, bumped by rating over that A line again, and padded it a bit with the solid Race C, in time for the FIA races this week. I'm sure things will toughen up and get dirtier by the end of the week, but save for one clown that had to be reported for barging about in the Nissan race, fun few hours of racing with people.
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Tidgney
Daily Race Guide is here :)

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Suspect Race “Z” will get toxic as the week goes on, but it was a blast today, from a top starting position. The car is so fun to drive (the old Z) I am bummed I missed out on the recent FIA race with them, as it suits my style. Just hit marks, manage your min corner speed, and squeeze the throttle while the diff does the extra work on exit. It’s great driving a car that rewards speed with more speed. And really easy to gap people that doesn’t get it sorted out.

the Race C is a real testament to the BoP, I ran the TT assuming it was the only defense against the RCZ’s, but that wasn’t the case. I am looking forward to finally racing the Viper or Ferrari knowing that it stands a chance.

Bathurst has never been my strongest suit, so likely will avoid it as with only three laps to work up from a mid pack or worse starting spot means likely hard to achieve DR improvement there for me.
 
I figured I would give race C a few tries. B/A or B/S rooms: carnage. Lost DR on both of my accounts, only to gain back 90 on one of them. Had a decent race going running 4th with 2 laps to go. Then I slapped the outside barrier at turn 1. Finished 8th, which was the highest...until I got on my main account. Managed to get into some scuffles with enough time to catch back up. Finished 2nd. My main was at B/B. Who knew the “lower classes” would have the best racing? I’ll get a video of that race posted tomorrow.
 
LVS_1986
Just got sended outerspace, guy wasnt even braking and got 3s penalty, wtf? Back to sr A... Asseto Corsa Competizione is coming, anybody know is there penalty system which works? This one in GTS is a joke

Here it is:

Btw. Got another stupid race with stupid penaltys and stupid people... Im done for now, maybe some day Ill be back in GTSport, Real Driving Simulator my 🤬
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Apart from the penalty system being useless and the other stuff that has been mentioned, one other thing I now see is that the handbrake needs banning from online modes, too many times lately I've seen it used to great effect as a way for a punter to pass and (mostly) stay on track, removing it won't hurt anyone else only these sort of people. ;)


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ASH32
Apart from the penalty system being useless and the other stuff that has been mentioned, one other thing I now see is that the handbrake needs banning from online modes, too many times lately I've seen it used to great effect as a way for a punter to pass and (mostly) stay on track, removing it won't hurt anyone else only these sort of people. ;)


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"Penalty system"... Its like in real life you get beat down by some criminal, police arrives and says: you going to jail mister... I dont know what has changed, but it has changed definietly. For me it started last tuesday Nations stupid Fuji. Gr2 cars in which I feel good, I got hope for some good points, Q went good PP, first corner, etc etc you know the story. One time it can happen, but three in a row?! Worst thing is this game kills your motivation, why do I have to try be better? "Im nit fast enough to take a pole? 🤬 this! I take 5 cars out on first corner and take a lead! Even better, they have penalty to serve! Hurray!"
After this I was so pissed that I didnt touch a wheel for two days. Then I cooled a bit and decided to forget this and play again... Slowly gaining sr, moving off the way of idiots, just to not make make any contact, 4, 5 clean races, then bam! got kicked straight in the face by some idiot 3s penalty, again sr down even more when I started...
On sunday finnaly I got back to S, just to fall down to A on monday, without my fault:ouch:
I dont know what is the goal of PD, they want to more kids and casuals play their game? This game is unplayable for me. They should change name, maybe Grand Clown Show? "Real idiots in virtual cars simulator" Aaahh Im so dissapointed:indiff:
Watched some videos about ACC, it seems to be much better, so my money goes to them:cheers:
One more thing, I was suprised reading some posts earlier when people was saying what Im saying, now I understand:rolleyes: Good luck to everybody still playing this 🤬
Edit: today I upload videos showing cancer;)
 
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Race A getting nasty. 1 race, punted into the docks, despite evasive action and then put into the wall in the tunnel 2 separate laps. Down 27 SR. Time to rebuild, again.

Edit: and the race C rebuild was a fail due to 1 guy determined to only pass me in non passing zones. I would pull aside to let them by, then they would crash and I am ahead again. Worst was they kept slamming the wall in that weird right handed,for no penalty. Gave me a penalty diving across the grass to try to get inside on that turn of 1 lap. But they get the Blue S while I drop lower into A.

🤬 I want a worthwhile lobby for tomorrow's FIA at Alsace, not a punt happy one. Oh well.
 
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ASH32
Apart from the penalty system being useless and the other stuff that has been mentioned, one other thing I now see is that the handbrake needs banning from online modes, too many times lately I've seen it used to great effect as a way for a punter to pass and (mostly) stay on track, removing it won't hurt anyone else only these sort of people. ;)


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Well, that explains some of the ******* driving we've been seeing lately. Still doesn't excuse the penalty system not giving the assaulting driver a penalty
 
LVS_1986
"Penalty system"... Its like in real life you get beat down by some criminal, police arrives and says: you going to jail mister... I dont know what has changed, but it has changed definietly. For me it started last tuesday Nations stupid Fuji. Gr2 cars in which I feel good, I got hope for some good points, Q went good PP, first corner, etc etc you know the story. One time it can happen, but three in a row?! Worst thing is this game kills your motivation, why do I have to try be better? "Im nit fast enough to take a pole? 🤬 this! I take 5 cars out on first corner and take a lead! Even better, they have penalty to serve! Hurray!"
After this I was so pissed that I didnt touch a wheel for two days. Then I cooled a bit and decided to forget this and play again... Slowly gaining sr, moving off the way of idiots, just to not make make any contact, 4, 5 clean races, then bam! got kicked straight in the face by some idiot 3s penalty, again sr down even more when I started...
On sunday finnaly I got back to S, just to fall down to A on monday, without my fault:ouch:
I dont know what is the goal of PD, they want to more kids and casuals play their game? This game is unplayable for me. They should change name, maybe Grand Clown Show? "Real idiots in virtual cars simulator" Aaahh Im so dissapointed:indiff:
Watched some videos about ACC, it seems to be much better, so my money goes to them:cheers:
One more thing, I was suprised reading some posts earlier when people was saying what Im saying, now I understand:rolleyes: Good luck to everybody still playing this 🤬
Edit: today I upload videos showing cancer;)
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I really believe the last update made things worst.

The brilliant ones at PD must be working on GT7 i guess.
 
baygencos
I really believe the last update made things worst.

The brilliant ones at PD must be working on GT7 i guess.
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I'm not so sure. I just got a penalty I deserved from nudging the car in front (though it was a bit harsh). There was a time when the car I nudged would have got the penalty :crazy:
 
The_Tullster
I'm not so sure. I just got a penalty I deserved from nudging the car in front (though it was a bit harsh). There was a time when the car I nudged would have got the penalty :crazy:
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That is still happening. Rear ended twice for penalties. 1 a solid missed braking spot punt, the other a small tap. Both penalties to me and my SR is now B. I am really cursed on this stuff at the moment.

And my stubbornness doesnt help much.
 
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The_Tullster
I'm not so sure. I just got a penalty I deserved from nudging the car in front (though it was a bit harsh). There was a time when the car I nudged would have got the penalty :crazy:
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If there are just two cars involved it depends on where (on track) you nudge them, at a corner exit (normally where a brake checker will get you) will get you a penalty most of the time for running into them, however hard it is. Whereas doing it in the braking zone (and into the corner) by braking too late, etc, will often get them a penalty (especially if you are on the inside) because the system sees it as them brake checking and/or blocking you. :lol:

Basically the system is broken and it just gets even stupider when more cars get involved in an incident. Best place to be then is in the middle because either the front (last hit) or back driver (one who hits first), out of the ones hit, will get the penalty 99% of the time. That's why you see some divebombers clip one car before smashing into others, they know the first contact will allow the next one to go unpunished. :rolleyes:


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Also noticed a penalty 'glitch' in race C. If you cut the first turn just a tiny bit it is a 1 sec penalty. Massively slash through the grass with all 4 wheels off it is 0.5. And I am going to struggle this week. I find race A massively fun, but my CRB there was a whopping 4 points. 1 bad race ate over 20. Trying to rebuild at race C tonight, which I don't really like, and getting penalties for getting rear ended at the sharp turns. I seriously don't know what I did to curse the system this past month but I hope I am collecting some of you guys' bad luck because I hope this isnt all mine.

Hope to see some of you on line again soon when I stick my head back over the SR S boundary.
 
The_Tullster
They're not exactly as fast as each other. The '89 is probably fastest in a straight line (highest power output) but sucks coming in to or out of corners unless you get it exactly right. The '07 is the easiest to drive consistently but is slightly slower. The Greddy Fugu is lowest power by a big margin but is much easier to accelerate out of corners due to more forgiving differential setup. Each car will be faster in certain situations if the driver has the skill to exploit its strengths.
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"unless you get it exactly right"

If you can, and do get it exactly right, the Z32 absolutely dominates in a race.

The Fugu is definitely fun to drive, but I have a few problems with it... To start, the tires - it wasn't designed for SH, which leads me to the next issue - Corner Exit Oversteer. Wall contact penalties are rampant and slow the Fugu down immensely. Even a tiny brush can be critical because of the next problem - Upper range acceleration, or lack thereof. It really has nothing past 130-135mph, while I am easily nearing 145 braking into the tunnel section hairpin in the 300 - in the slipstream, it will chew the Poison Fish right up and drop it out the back.

Fugu advantages : weight, better brakes, better 2nd-3rd gear change, and the LSD... although the differential does play a part in the oversteer.

But to me, the 300 feels so perfect - the exact right amount of oversteer... I can really toss it into the fast turns, get about 10-15 degreees of drift angle, and it just carves. (Ironically, I suck at the drifting part of the game.) It's also hard to knock the car off - it's extremely stable during contact. Then there is the power. I love that subtle hiss. Perfect delivery. Torque all the way to the top. Spot on gear ratios.

All that being said, both cars are somewhat difficult at attaining that "Magic Lap", but...

...If you get it exactly right in either car in a race, I'm calling advantage : Z32.
 
KdotIX
What is it with people always going for a "space" or a "move" which isn't on? Race C is a nightmare due to this and I lost 30 SR in 1 race because some people love to think that they're the next Daniel Ricciardo.

In my last race I started second only to be taken out by the person behind me on the 2nd turn. After a long and arduous recovery drive, I was on for 7th, two TTs ahead of me were fighting towards the end of the final lap, I took advantage and slipped up the inside of both of them. Then one of the TTs lunges me out of nowhere on the final turn, a move which wasn't on in the first place, knocks me wide, I keep my car straight and to the left to the finish line, but he then decides to continuously ram into the side of me. He spins me out and I get slapped with the 1s penalty and lose 30SR to add insult to injury. Totally despicable. At least try to race with an ounce of integrity ffs. How that person can be satisfied with that result by essentially cheating their way through is sickening.

Anyway, apart from that, I'm enjoying Race C. Now to recover the SR...
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If people lunge and the move isn't on, you should be confident in your own braking that they will miss the turn and switchback
Yes a lunge is annoying but if you turn in it doesn't help anyone and with the penalty system you defintiely want to avoid contact best you can
And if they lunge and make the corner then fair play to them

aguia
It is absolutely disgusting to play together with grasshoppers and others equally desirous of first place and do not look at the means to achieve it. Furthermore it is not fair, for those like me, who do not know, nor intend to tamper their console to obtain this effect. I already suspected the veracity of many A, A + and other S, and for me, all of these, their best, is equal to zero. I really believe that many of these "aliens" get PSplus without paying, but that will be a reason for Sony to find out. Just wish that all of these are excluded from playing on ps5.
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What is this about? I don't understand I'm A+ plus just under 70k dr, I bought ps plus last week what's going on

aguia
It is absolutely disgusting to play together with grasshoppers and others equally desirous of first place and do not look at the means to achieve it. Furthermore it is not fair, for those like me, who do not know, nor intend to tamper their console to obtain this effect. I already suspected the veracity of many A, A + and other S, and for me, all of these, their best, is equal to zero. I really believe that many of these "aliens" get PSplus without paying, but that will be a reason for Sony to find out. Just wish that all of these are excluded from playing on ps5.
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What is this about? I don't understand I'm A+ plus just under 70k dr, I bought ps plus last week what's going on?
 
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Ryan Sandall
If people lunge and the move isn't on, you should be confident in your own braking that they will miss the turn and switchback
Yes a lunge is annoying but if you turn in it doesn't help anyone and with the penalty system you defintiely want to avoid contact best you can
And if they lunge and make the corner then fair play to them
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You do learn to give and take, even from the 'takers', as you play more. In a Race C at Sardegna yesterday, I did have a guy who was 'more than optimistic' into the first hard right turn... while I was not happy that if I had not stepped aside for him, he would have rear-ended me and ruined my race, I was happier to 'give' him the spot when he managed to hold the apex and make the turn, rather than be hit. I eventually passed him again anyway, and enjoyed the race. In another moment, I may have tried to hold my ground while he drove thru my rear view mirror, and been upset that I was punted. While IRL I would have had the opportunity to confront him after the race and he'd have to hear me out, in the game there is nothing to gain so, it pays to compromise a bit, sometimes at the expense of the Ricciardo wannabes. Not fair, but it's the reality.
 
KosmoKazi
You do learn to give and take, even from the 'takers', as you play more. In a Race C at Sardegna yesterday, I did have a guy who was 'more than optimistic' into the first hard right turn... while I was not happy that if I had not stepped aside for him, he would have rear-ended me and ruined my race, I was happier to 'give' him the spot when he managed to hold the apex and make the turn, rather than be hit. I eventually passed him again anyway, and enjoyed the race. In another moment, I may have tried to hold my ground while he drove thru my rear view mirror, and been upset that I was punted. While IRL I would have had the opportunity to confront him after the race and he'd have to hear me out, in the game there is nothing to gain so, it pays to compromise a bit, sometimes at the expense of the Ricciardo wannabes. Not fair, but it's the reality.
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Its worth remembering too that often people dive late for the inside because they have either missed their braking point, or maybe theirs is much later than yours so when they dive they are trying to avoid contact
When I race I'm usually strong on teh brakes or at least I know where to brake 99% of the time so I can hit my marker knowing full well I'm going to stop
So I often make moves like that, but I usually am pointing my car beside them to make sure they keep an eye out if I brake later
Also means I can shoot the gap if I mess up rather than their rear bumper
 
Ryan Sandall
Its worth remembering too that often people dive late for the inside because they have either missed their braking point, or maybe theirs is much later than yours so when they dive they are trying to avoid contact
When I race I'm usually strong on teh brakes or at least I know where to brake 99% of the time so I can hit my marker knowing full well I'm going to stop
So I often make moves like that, but I usually am pointing my car beside them to make sure they keep an eye out if I brake later
Also means I can shoot the gap if I mess up rather than their rear bumper
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Agreed, though at my level the examples are usually just poor driving. There is a responsibility to watch the car in front of you, including recognizing their brake lights if you are behind. Not all are as kind or respectful as you, to 'show' their nose inside to share their intention... though I also make a point to, if I think I can outbrake someone. At least not at the A/B rating line... expecting that if I get up into A/A+ range to see more of these non-verbal communications and more intelligent racing.

Another example of 'good' communication: in that same Sardegna race, was ahead of a Subaru who was rated quite a bit higher than me (shout out Jochavez217), and was clearly fast, but I was able to gap him on half the track. Problem was, he could close in on me harder in the other half. Two laps of him on my rear bumper, where he would lightly nudge me when my TT topped out, because he knew he couldn't cleanly pass me in the upcoming turns, so we worked together. I knew his intentions were not to press me, and I could maintain qualifying lines and pace, without worrying about him divebombing me unfairly.

I made a small mistake on the last turn entry after two or three laps of this, though, and since I respected him behavior the previous laps, willingly gave up the position rather than impede his momentum... he eventually pulled out to a small lead, and we both went on to finish without any pressure from behind.

You don't see much of this type of respect in the lower lobbies, but as you see more and more of it in the game in higher lobbies, it's a real nice thing and makes the game fun.
 
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