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crusselz
Second DR reset in 2 years. DR down to 15K from about 35K. Guess my only mistake was racing race A. Where getting punted at the dock section, you still get a penalty for hitting the barrier as well as any cars you hit on the way to the barrier.

But like a clown, I kept racing, didn't even keep track of my SR. till it was too late. Oh well, don't think I'll bother trying to get back to DR A. Just race and see where the carnage takes me.

Unfortunately this seems to be my reward for trying to keep as clean as I could, always hugging the inside and giving people space.... Oh well‍
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Monza took me from 49k to 15k... It was a shame, because I love the RB Jr's, and I was having fun coming from the back of the grid. I managed to get back to 26k before the switch to this batch of races.

While Race A has been good to me in terms of repairing my DR (now back up to over 37k, with some help from the Nations FIA race this week), it's really not a good place to repair SR, as one SR down incident means it's impossible to not end up with an SR loss by the end of the race. Meanwhile a clean race is only worth 3 or 4 SR points, and the only way to guarantee a clean race is to start up front and run away.
 
Ran my last daily Cs of the week to get back to SR 99 this morning and thought I would give a shout out to hir0 (not the full PSN) who started behind me both races in an RCZ and a TT and didnt attempt to launch me turn 1 or 2 either race. Poor guy got rumbled by some muppet in race 2, but both times we were close and tight racing he was very clean and super fair. Great way to end my week.

Although if I blob around on one of the FIA races this weekend I might have to try and go back to repair damage, but I work this weekend and the races are late so highly unlikely. Maybe take the alt for some learning attempts at bathurst again.
 
You want respect? Be respectful.

Yesterday. Epic full length racing. Start to finish. The 458 below, started ahead of me for about three races. We both moved up the field. Swapping places, racing smart, slowing for heavy heavy traffic, slowing and not capitalising on mistakes, not so much teaming together, but understanding the flow of the race. Freakin' AWESOME!

RC F is very strong. Strong everywhere. The Suspension loads perfectly.
Tyres got a bit dirty from some previous contact that had me off from traffic. Last few laps were tight between the Pole sitting RC F, 458 and myself. Fantastic respectful battle. I got to 2nd twice. Outdragged the 458 heading to Bell Tower Corner. It stayed behind all the way to the final turns. I selected the inside with hard braking. The 458 went out-in-out and came out slightly ahead. RC F was faster, but ran out of distance at the line.👍
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You want respect? Be respectful.

Been starting at the back becasue of not knowing how each car will perform. I'm not in the business of holding players up. Okay, let's go!

Atenza wasn't flash, but count on players not being patient and I move up. However, an RC Z started behind me. Normal T1 fiasco with cars going in too hot. Stop Sign Hairpin, cars again plow into one another.
Here we go. Coming into the blind crest 90degree right, I'm slowing as normal. BAM! I get sent into the apex. Can't do anything. I smash the 458 on its right front. No penalty for me. The 458 gets a few seconds. The culprit behind gets some seconds. About 4 of us are unghosting and recovering. I press on.

Mid-race, the 458 is picking them off. It's gaining on me. We're catching others ahead. The 458 is choosing me to bump draft as I was faster than a few cars down the straight. Tyre wear is coming into play and the 458 is still being patient. We're making time on an FF Megane, but it's faster than me from 3rd gear. I signal for the 458 to have a go and get by. 458 does so and immmediately attacks the Megane. I can catch up with a tow.
I pass the both as the Megane gets cheeky. Heading into the eses, I get smahed from behind by another car. The 458 must have seen this and stays behind me. We come around the final turn and 458 bumps me for a boost past the Megane. We both jump the Megane and into T1, we both crash!

Gather back up and run hard for the next couple laps. Pass the Scirocco, Pass The Megane. Pass the F-Type that was struggling and finish close at the end. To show the respect, on the run to the finish, the 458 moves in front of me to give me a tow to outdrag the F-Type! Respect.
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I'm enjoying the new BoP in Gr.4, went for the Ferrari last night and it seemed to work well, qualified 15th, avoided the lap 1 chaos and a French driver who was determined to crash into everyone (managed to get himself down to SR B from a 90-99 room), and got myself up to 8th, unfortunately that was by lap 5, and then I was mostly on my own after that, had a Scirocco driver get close, but he hit the wall and spun at the kink on the main straight, and he was gone after that. Could see 3rd-7th in a tight group about 4 seconds ahead of me, all racing cleanly, great to see, but they were still slightly faster than me.

7 different cars in the top 10, much better than the RCZ one-makes we've had recently, kept SR at 99, and edged DR back over 20k.

(Side note, did a livery for the 458, don't like the race number being off to one side, need my symmetry!!)
 
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
 
Dairyworker
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
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I do enjoy the N100-N300 races and usually tend to go that route to take a break from GR3-4 cars, but this combination has been a nightmare. Like others here, in the spam of 3 races went from SR 99 to 26. I try to drive clean ALWAYS since my main goal right now is to gather as much track experience as possible with standings not as a prio, but this is just carnage! I dont feel comfortable with Bathhurst. So im just trying to get away ASAP on the race and hope for the best.
 
Dairyworker
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
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Still a tiny bit of variety in the Asia leaderboard, even this late in the week:
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All three versions still there and all within 8/10ths
 
Dairyworker
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
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You may be right. I looked at the top 10 when I tried race A the first time, and saw the fugu was the car of choice. After what you said, I'll have to give the 300 a shot. From what I've seen in races, though, I'm guessing that the brakes don't work on that particular model? Hopefully they work for me.
 
Rexracer702
You may be right. I looked at the top 10 when I tried race A the first time, and saw the fugu was the car of choice. After what you said, I'll have to give the 300 a shot. From what I've seen in races, though, I'm guessing that the brakes don't work on that particular model? Hopefully they work for me.
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You do need to hit the brakes early in the 300, patience and (throttle) pedal control will be your friend. I feel like i can hit a top 15 americas time with some better practice. My optimal would put me in 13 right now.

I just think everyone likes that the fugu is "easy" to drive, i really can't get a fast time with it though, feels almost gutless....
 
Dairyworker
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
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It is soooo ridiculously good.
3 wins Monday, 4 wins Tuesday, 6 wins Wednesday - A/A and A/S grids, lots of friends, usually starting P2 or P3 but always front 5.
I seem to be getting that "obligatory" SR down every 5th or 6th race... frustrating.

Get out front, don't make mistakes, play defense aginst bombs into the docks and hairpin...
...and put MC Hammer in the disc player.

If done right, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a Fugu to pass, usually it can't even keep up since that driver has to be extra perfect just to stay close.
 
Dairyworker
You do need to hit the brakes early in the 300, patience and (throttle) pedal control will be your friend. I feel like i can hit a top 15 americas time with some better practice. My optimal would put me in 13 right now.

I just think everyone likes that the fugu is "easy" to drive, i really can't get a fast time with it though, feels almost gutless....
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I'm fastest in the Fugu, most consistent in the '07 at only a tenth or two slower, and can't get within 2 seconds in the '89. For me, the '89 is a wall magnet. Any A races I do in what's left of the week will be in the '07.
 
Well for the first time since the game launched I have an SR of 1 point on my R4M account.

I really thought the carnage of the Red Bull's on Monza last week was something but Fugu Z has opened the eyes even more. :dunce:

At least next week has a "chance" for some recovery.

Race A Tsukuba N300 One Make
Race B Red Bull Ring Gr4
Race C Suzuka Gr2
 
Dairyworker
I feel like i am the only guy running the 300zx in race A. It's a beast! Not easy to drive but not that hard once you get comfy with er. I actually had a reall hard time even getting close with the fugu. Down to driving style i guess? Are people not even trying the 300, or am i special somehow to be able to drive it?
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BenRod
It is soooo ridiculously good.
3 wins Monday, 4 wins Tuesday, 6 wins Wednesday - A/A and A/S grids, lots of friends, usually starting P2 or P3 but always front 5.
I seem to be getting that "obligatory" SR down every 5th or 6th race... frustrating.

Get out front, don't make mistakes, play defense aginst bombs into the docks and hairpin...
...and put MC Hammer in the disc player.

If done right, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a Fugu to pass, usually it can't even keep up since that driver has to be extra perfect just to stay close.
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OK, Fugu devotee here, but you guys convinced me to try out the 300Z... on my new Alt-account of course. But I've really liked the way the old car drives, so it will probably be a real adjustment. May as well try it though, as predictably, people have been catching up on the qualifying times, so it's harder and harder to start top-3 and run away with a win in the Fugu Z.

Hasnain282
Gave Daily C a go for the first time in a while starting from the back and actually had some good fun, track is more technical than you think but still pretty decent for racing
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It really is! I think it's been one of the better tracks and car combos in recent history. Very competitive, except for the Toyota 86 that I tried last night... was excruciatingly slow compared to the Viper ahead of me and anything else. I may flip into the 458 and give that a go, now that it seems competitive.
 
It's so tough to get the SR up at Bathurst, one bump and minus you go. So I am cruising around finishing top 3 every time gorging on DR points. I'm gonna get beaten with a stick when my SR climbs.

Surprised more folks are not using the Mustang at Bathurst, it's nearly as quick as the Viper without any of the fear. On the straights it can keep up and she turns in ok, brakes work here too .... to me it's my preferred ride.
 
Dairyworker
You do need to hit the brakes early in the 300, patience and (throttle) pedal control will be your friend. I feel like i can hit a top 15 americas time with some better practice. My optimal would put me in 13 right now.

I just think everyone likes that the fugu is "easy" to drive, i really can't get a fast time with it though, feels almost gutless....
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Wow you set that time in the 300ZX? :bowdown: Though to be fair I haven't even taken it for a spin so for all I know I could be faster in it, but I typically don't like driving road cars on SH tires, and the Fugu Z is almost racecar like in its handling, which better suits my driving style (aka easier :lol:). Right now I'm only 3 hundredths faster than you.

It's actually slightly terrifying to see the 350 or 300 in my mirror heading to the braking zones. I usually have to give them all the space in the world to avoid a crash. A 300 in one of my races yesterday caused a 3-4 car wreck that narrowly missed me (to be fair, I was 1 of only 3 cars in the race that DIDN'T hit the wall at the docks on the opening lap), and in another one I was in 2nd with another Fugu leading and a 350 directly behind me going into the docks on lap 2. I didn't even bother defending from the 350, and sure enough, he shot past me and wiped out the leader...
 
Just did 3 laps in the 300. Definitely more muscle than the fugu, but brakes and corner speed are down because of weight, I guess. Biggest speed difference is the back straight going into the pit hairpin. I think, ultimately, the fugu will lap faster, but the 300 can pass under power. Most of my passing in the fugu is on the brakes, or just being closer to the apex. I have done a couple of drift passes going into the final corner. I can carry a lot of speed through those esses if I get it right, then when they swing wide for the last turn, up the inside on the brakes and throw it in sideways. I loose about 2 mph at start/finish because I scrub too much speed, but often my victim gets on the gas too early and taps the wall coming out, so it doesn't matter. I wonder what will be used at tsukubu next week...
 
Not enough info for me to say anything. Smarty pants answer is to drive faster. In all honesty though a video or description of the things you think are costing you the most time would help us, help you. Do you use top ten ghosts, to "chase the rabbit". You could also watch @Mistah_MCA 's lap guides on the youtubes. They are great, and help me a lot on combos i seem to struggle with
 
Dairyworker
Not enough info for me to say anything. Smarty pants answer is to drive faster. In all honesty though a video or description of the things you think are costing you the most time would help us, help you. Do you use top ten ghosts, to "chase the rabbit". You could also watch @Mistah_MCA 's lap guides on the youtubes. They are great, and help me a lot on combos i seem to struggle with
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I know that various things slow you down like braking to early, swiping the side well any contact, traction is at 2 brakes are at 4 rear, auto gear shift, using steering wheel and pedals, as I am relatively new I have drive line on to give me my drive line.
Need anything else?
 
Jason885
Just can't seem to make any of the cars in race A get up and go.
Not the best driver but I'm not to bad either, tend to get lap times of 1,30-1,34 just can't get any quicker than that, any advice is welcome.
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If you're doing 1:30s here, you need to be helping us! But without seeing any video, there's no way to give any proper tips. Some generic ones (using the Fugu Z):

-Brake at the 100 board into Turn 1, and get down to about 90 mph to make the corner.
-Brake between the 200 and 150 boards for Turn 2 (entrance to the docks).
-Treat the 3 right-handers in the docks like 1 giant turn as much as possible.
-Tighten the last right-hander in the docks to set yourself up better for the left immediately after.
-Brake at the 50 board for the fast right hander onto the back straight, down to 80-85 mph.
-Turn in early and slightly for the kinks on the back straight. They can be taken flat out of you're smooth and don't upset the rear end.
-Brake at the 200 board for the hairpin, down to 40 mph by the apex.
-Brake just before the 50 board for the esses.
-Keep your exits on the first 2 turns in the esses tight so you can carry more speed into the next corner. Corner speed should be in the mid 90s.
-Brake at the 50 board for the final corner, down to mid-high 70s.

Edit after seeing your latest post: I've never used the driving line for this game, but from past experience, the driving line is VERY conservative, and you can brake way later than it suggests.
 
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GTWolverine
If you're doing 1:30s here, you need to be helping us! But without seeing any video, there's no way to give any proper tips. Some generic ones (using the Fugu Z):

-Brake at the 100 board into Turn 1, and get down to about 90 mph to make the corner.
-Brake between the 200 and 150 boards for Turn 2 (entrance to the docks).
-Treat the 3 right-handers in the docks like 1 giant turn as much as possible.
-Tighten the last right-hander in the docks to set yourself up better for the left immediately after.
-Brake at the 50 board for the fast right hander onto the back straight, down to 80-85 mph.
-Turn in early and slightly for the kinks on the back straight. They can be taken flat out of you're smooth and don't upset the rear end.
-Brake at the 200 board for the hairpin, down to 40 mph by the apex.
-Brake just before the 50 board for the esses.
-Keep your exits on the first 2 turns in the esses tight so you can carry more speed into the next corner. Corner speed should be in the mid 90s.
-Brake at the 50 board for the final corner, down to mid-high 70s.

Edit after seeing your latest post: I've never used the driving line for this game, but from past experience, the driving line is VERY conservative, and you can brake way later than it suggests.
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Lol sorry 2,30-2,34 haha, thanks for the tips.
 
Dairyworker
Only thing i will add to the above, great tips. Is to turn tcs off, probably costs you a few seconds considering the want of these cars to be a bit loose.
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Cold hard fact: you need to learn to drive with TCS at 0 to be competitive in mid/high B DR and above rooms. I tried to avoid this truth but it wasn't until I put in the time to get comfortable with the TCS off, that I was able to jump up from the 20k-ish range and be more competitive consistently.

This is after you already understand that any of the other driving aids must also be off, with the exception of the ABS (normal), and you use MT.

It's funny, after you get used to the TCS 0 in any of the cars, you can 'feel' where the car is slowing you down when you turn it back on.

This is true even for wet surfaces, perhaps even more so... you'd think it would be ok and that the TCS must be more capable than you at keeping it pointed straight, without speed penalty, but in fact it's the opposite... the TCS really slows you down in the rain. I was able to lap >1 sec a lap faster with the TCS off at Spa, compared to 1, in the recent FIA race on a wet track.

But as to the original question: just keep practicing! There is no substitute for track time. None. The only beginner tip that is worth repeating over and over: slow in / fast out... especially obvious when you drive the Fugu Z at Tokyo. Any time you give up on the entry to the turn is payed back 2x on the exit and following straight. Those runs off the corner are twice as important as the speed you carry into the corner. Watch your lap delta in the HUD get further and further into the blue, and that triangle stay pointed up, when you learn to ease off the entry earlier and earlier, and apply the throttle smoother and earlier on exit again and again. That car repays your confidence in that approach big time.
 
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