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RacingGrandpa
Not long. I think you overload your front tires. Try like this. Before you reach your brake mark, lift the throttle to get weight transfer. Then brake hard in a straight line. Hard, but not full, that will kick in the ABS. The ideal is to have the bar almost only white with a small slice of red on top. So brake while slowly going down through the gears, turn in while you slowly release the brake and power of in second gear
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That's what I was practicing. I let off the gas before turning in. Brake and start downshifting on the curb of the dogleg. Easy turn in to the apex in 2nd. It was working great. But racing, while I thought I was doing everything the same, still kept losing it. I did notice when I looked down to see that 29 MPH that the brakes were locked. I guess panic had set in when it didn't seem to be slowing. To late at that point. Off track before I could do anything.

Brake bias at -3, btw. To much, or not enough? I only started playing with the TCS and bias yesterday. It's something I seem to forget about doing. But it's what gained me those few seconds into the :08's. It sucks though, practicing so well (for me), but racing so terribly bad.
 
Awesome race in the Jag - I've been torturing myself in quali for the past 2 days, really trying to sharpen up my hotlapping. I'm in the 3:08s, finally, and @RacingGrandpa challenged me to enter, I'm not one to back down from being called out...

Started P6, 1-4 all Nissans, and a brave Frenchman in an LM55 up front. I went backwards a bit in the opening laps but I'm consistent into tertre rouge and was able to pick up the slip every time.

I had a great battle with that LM55 a lot of the way around, trading places as I'd stream past on the straight and he'd gain through the twisties. Lots of room given and respect all round. We used each other to catch up to the Nissans, which seem to struggle in race with the sharp turns at Mulsanne and Arnage.

Over the last two laps I'd really dialed in the consistency, happy to lose a bit of time through Porsche as the Jag rolls through the corvette chicanes very nicely, I gained a bag of time each time through there. Coming out of Mulsanne on lap 6, I got the best exit out of a pack of tight cars and claimed P3, easily held as the cars behind were battling.

Heart-pounding action, definitely one of the most fun races I've been in.
 
Hello,

I am new in gts , i play over a month dr B Sr B .
This week i only race interlagos...and it is messy i must get better result in qualy i now have 1.33.3 i practise and practise, i am watching replays and i stil cant get under 1.33.00 . I dont know why i am so slow last week in gr4 fuji i was fast my qauli lap time was only 1.5 secunds off the best time is it possible that interlagos just dont fit me? Is that possible that some tracks fits you amd others dont ? I practise interlagos more than fuji and cant get the time i want.So i start racing in 6,7,8 place and it is mission imposible not to get hit... is cleaner racing with A sr ?
 
Tomaz Korosec
Hello,

I am new in gts , i play over a month dr B Sr B .
This week i only race interlagos...and it is messy i must get better result in qualy i now have 1.33.3 i practise and practise, i am watching replays and i stil cant get under 1.33.00 . I dont know why i am so slow last week in gr4 fuji i was fast my qauli lap time was only 1.5 secunds off the best time is it possible that interlagos just dont fit me? Is that possible that some tracks fits you amd others dont ? I practise interlagos more than fuji and cant get the time i want.So i start racing in 6,7,8 place and it is mission imposible not to get hit... is cleaner racing with A sr ?
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I know how you feel mate, I did a 1.31 practice and starting 5,6,7,8 and getting battered lol

What are your car settings TCS brakes?
 
Tomaz Korosec
Hello,

I am new in gts , i play over a month dr B Sr B .
This week i only race interlagos...and it is messy i must get better result in qualy i now have 1.33.3 i practise and practise, i am watching replays and i stil cant get under 1.33.00 . I dont know why i am so slow last week in gr4 fuji i was fast my qauli lap time was only 1.5 secunds off the best time is it possible that interlagos just dont fit me? Is that possible that some tracks fits you amd others dont ? I practise interlagos more than fuji and cant get the time i want.So i start racing in 6,7,8 place and it is mission imposible not to get hit... is cleaner racing with A sr ?
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Definitely, some tracks will suit you better than others. I know Interlagos is one of my weaker tracks, I always struggle with the Senna S and the final corner onto the back straight, which are both really important to nail if you want a good time.

As for the dirty racing, Interlagos is a very tightly packed circuit, and something about the lingering spirit of Senna makes dive-bombs and aggressive driving really common there. For me, it's a track I tend to avoid, but plenty of others really like it and do well there.

EDIT: I would add, you may want to be wary of racing too much there in SR B, you could easily end up with a DR reset if you're not careful. If I were you I might consider running a race C from the back without qualifying, and just trying to run a few clean laps without being too aggressive or trying to go forwards, so you can build up your SR. The DR reset is not fun.
 
Ok ok thanks , so which tracks are most eazy or most safe ? I liked red bull ring couple weeks back.
Dr reset ? Didnt know that is possible. When do u earnt it hehe ? If i have one incident by race and i keep my dr B or C they can still reset ?

If i race in back wouldn i lose to much dr ? Or if i start dead last and improve few positions on lets say 10 place i wil get - dr ? Or i must be always top half to get +dr ?
 
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Tomaz Korosec
Ok ok thanks , so which tracks are most eazy or most safe ? I liked red bull ring couple weeks back.
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I'm not the best at the game, but I'll try and weigh in. For me, RBR is a good enough start. Whenever Lago Maggiore GP is around, I tend to have fun racing there and it is fairly forgiving. Tokyo South is a nice track, but very unforgiving in terms of barriers.

Most tracks have a "zone" where a lot of crashes happen (Red Bull Ring Turns 3 and 4, Monza Turn 1, Spa Turn 1, Dragon Trail Chicane of Death, the entirety of LeMans... etc.) make sure to be careful around these parts in low SR.


Small tip; try playing Circuit Experience. It's in the "Campaign" menu. Should help you learn the tracks and find out what you are comfortable with.
 
Tomaz Korosec
Ok ok thanks , so which tracks are most eazy or most safe ? I liked red bull ring couple weeks back.
Dr reset ? Didnt know that is possible. When do u earnt it hehe ? If i have one incident by race and i keep my dr B or C they can still reset ?

If i race in back wouldn i lose to much dr ? Or if i start dead last and improve few positions on lets say 10 place i wil get - dr ? Or i must be always top half to get +dr ?
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DR is a little more complicated than just where you finish - it's calculated by where you finish in comparison to the other drivers in the lobby, and their DR relative to yours.

You may give up a little DR racing from the back in C, but it's a lot less than you'll give up if you get reset. I'm not sure what the threshold is for a DR reset, but SR B is definitely a dangerous place to be.

This week's race C is pretty tricky, very fast cars with very heavy braking zones, but with so many people crashing and flying off, you might even still gain DR from the back, even if you're not making overtakes on the track.
 
Finally, after about 30 races, I found a room clean enough to get the CRB. SR.B still better than SR.S
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SR.A and SR.S in the evening, 90% red ratings after the race. Look at SR.B.... Only 4 red.
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Now I can confirm, race C is only worth 10 SR, 0.3 SR per sector. I went from 54 to 64 SR for that race.

Next one loading. Only one disconnect so far today /knock on wood. Perhaps I'll reach DR.A again.
 
**Important Le Mans Info

Regarding my video clip from yesterday where the Mazda driver freaked out when I tried to bump-draft him on the straight,
I think it probably isn't doable with that car. I remember driving the LM55 on Monday, and found that it's max speed (224 mph, I think) is really the maximum. I pulled right up to the bumper of another car, and couldn't get even a 1 mph increase. I suppose it's speed is governed.

Therefore, trying to push them forward is no help at all. They can't be pushed.
It's just nothing more than a collision. Both cars will suffer.
If you approach one of them on the track, just go on by. I don't know if any of the other cars also have the same issue.
Maybe @Natalie_GT knows. She tested them all.
 
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LVS_1986
Brilliant advices, Ill add few: fast in slow out, pit every lap so you always got perfect tyres, best way to take 90 degrees corner is using handbrake, push push push, never give up!
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Best to race on a track you don't know - that makes it more interesting.

Couple of beers during the race always helps choose tyre strategy accordingly - quick sprint to the fridge and back.

Never forget the race must be won on the first corner.
 
Tomaz Korosec
Hello,

I am new in gts , i play over a month dr B Sr B .
This week i only race interlagos...and it is messy i must get better result in qualy i now have 1.33.3 i practise and practise, i am watching replays and i stil cant get under 1.33.00 . I dont know why i am so slow last week in gr4 fuji i was fast my qauli lap time was only 1.5 secunds off the best time is it possible that interlagos just dont fit me? Is that possible that some tracks fits you amd others dont ? I practise interlagos more than fuji and cant get the time i want.So i start racing in 6,7,8 place and it is mission imposible not to get hit... is cleaner racing with A sr ?
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It may be true that some tracks fit, others don't. I didn't race last weeks Gr. 3 at Catalunya because I just can't get it. I knew I'd be a rolling roadblock and didn't want to be a hindrance to those that do get it. I won't be racing Interlago because of the wreckfest potential.

In addition, to the point of starting from the back. That's what I've done in every race so far. Started the week with a dismal 2055 DR points. Now at 5698. Still not so good, but had a terrible first race this morning that lost me about 260(ish) points. The last race I just finished brought it back above yesterdays total. Point is, you can gain points from the back.

On another issue. How do ya'll transfer a video of your races from GTSport library to your PC, to then load into your comments here? I saved that last race, where I made quite a few very obvious mistakes, but would like advice on what else I'm not doing right. And I discovered that viewing the car from the standard cinematic camera view makes it look faster and smoother than I feel while driving.
 
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After a lot of Interlagos qual testing last night...I got very into the VW VGT GR3 with no roof...There’s a lot of potential in that if you get the shift points right-it’s pretty fast, handles well also...I got within 2 tenths of my best a bunch of times, but not knowing the car means inconsistency, so after consideration I decided not to use it further.
After that I went back to vette. I just gel with that car. It’s sooo predictable and consistent for me. I ran many laps both tcs 3 and tcs off. My best was 4 hundredths improved over my previous best :(.
That time was tcs off. Personally TCS off doesn’t help me enough to warrant using off in race with proximity of others/potential for contact. Under ideal conditions I get better avg if on a good stint of say 10-12 laps by a tenth or 2 tcs off.
At some point with the amount of drive time I’ve put in, given that I have good equipment etc it’s becoming clear to me that my level is beginning to settle and stabilize. More effort in is not yielding gains that make it worth the time. My optimal is a tenth and a half better than my q. I ran many stints last night stringing together 31.9-32.3 over a lot of laps, I feel like I’m getting maxed out overall far as my hand eye coordination is concerned.
Last night was the most hotlapping I’ve done in quite some time, and there was really no benefit gained.
I’m pretty happy with where I’m at tho, and the more I drive gr3 the more I realize I’m a one car guy. The cockpit view is so natural the way the mirrors are in that car the sound is great it has balanced performance, as an overall package it’s hard to beat.
I think Monday I hit 31.8 in short order. I’ve got prolly another 4 hours in for another tenth? Feels underwhelming.
:::headbang:::
I’ve hit the wall.
 
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sturk0167
**Important Le Mans Info

Regarding my video clip from yesterday where the Mazda driver freaked out when I tried to bump-draft him on the straight,
I think it probably isn't doable with that car. I remember driving the LM55 on Monday, and found that it's max speed (224 mph, I think) is really the maximum. I pulled right up to the bumper of another car, and couldn't get even a 1 mph increase. I suppose it's speed is governed.

Therefore, trying to push them forward is no help at all. They can't be pushed.
It's just nothing more than a collision. Both cars will suffer.
If you approach one of them on the track, just go on by. I don't know if any of the other cars also have the same issue.
Maybe @Natalie_GT knows. She tested them all.
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Think the R92CP is another one that gets no benefit from it. I don't remember all of them, but if you can find my message with the list of the cars and the top speeds I've tested (sorry I've just woke up and I'm tired), the general rule of thumb is that the cars that have the same top speed without and with slipstream can't be bump drafted over said top speed.
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MaxAttack
Definitely, some tracks will suit you better than others. I know Interlagos is one of my weaker tracks, I always struggle with the Senna S and the final corner onto the back straight, which are both really important to nail if you want a good time.

As for the dirty racing, Interlagos is a very tightly packed circuit, and something about the lingering spirit of Senna makes dive-bombs and aggressive driving really common there. For me, it's a track I tend to avoid, but plenty of others really like it and do well there.
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I thought it was just me. That sums up my view on Interlagos exactly. It's really an awful place to race with people who don't respect other racers. So it's a danger zone for me when it comes to races there.

And I can't get a handle on it, to get that last 1/10 of speed. Maybe it's because it's going the wrong direction!
 
When I first drove Interlagos I HAATED it.
It’s difficult. With all the curves people always go for handling cars, but it’s a good track for stability in race. Imo one of the most balanced circuits in game.
I hated it-then I turned on line and cones and markers and drove it paint by numbers-slow and smooth. Brake at cones, trail off, apex, back on throttle.
Stay on line. once you get a bit of it’s flow it’s amazing. It’s crazy too though how it can provide the best race of your life or the worst.
 
Here's me getting a track limit penalty, and then me not getting a penalty on the following lap.




I'm not certain, but I don't believe it had anything to do with the inside curb. At this point, my best guess is that when the outside curb ended, I still had my right-side tires on it. :confused:
Does anybody know for sure? @Sven Jurgens ?

And by the way, doesn't it seem pretty lazy of the developers not to provide detailed track limit diagrams for each track?
Them: "We're not gonna tell you the rules, but be sure not to break them". :lol:
 
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sturk0167
I'm not certain, but I don't believe it had anything to do with the inside curb. At this point, my best guess is that when the outside curb ended, I still had my right-side tires on it. :confused:
Does anybody know for sure? @Sven Jurgens ?
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Yes, you can really savagely cut the inside so long as you stay on the kerb, but don't go four wheels past the white line on the outside.
 
O604
My second Race C this week went well. Started 4th. Finished 3rd. No CRB but no penalties and finished blue.

Went with a RacingGrandpa livery for luck. Was on the grid with Dairyworker. Got close enough to get a picture.

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Nice photo! Shared in game? I have not been racing well, but the competition has been clean and i am really happy i started racing. That was my first race that you were in. I am getting better at my consistency and not messing up, but am getting faster and faster rooms
 
sturk0167
I'm not certain, but I don't believe it had anything to do with the inside curb. At this point, my best guess is that when the outside curb ended, I still had my right-side tires on it. :confused:

And by the way, doesn't it seem pretty lazy of the developers not to provide detailed track limit diagrams for each track?
Them: "We're not gonna tell you the rules, but be sure not to break them". :lol:
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Yep, you have to have two wheels back inside the line before the outside curb ends there, and yep La Sarthe is extremely inconsistent about what the track limits are. You can't even put two wheels outside the line at the kink before Indianapolis, for example.
 
Just realized I was hit originally from P3, would've made the corner. Then sliding from the original hit getting punted from P4. I probably received 2 second from the original hit and an additional 2 from the punt. How can the designer get this so wrong? I was in front for both. And why P3 and P4 would be so insanely aggressive at the front. 'BS' class too.

 
Natalie_GT
Think the R92CP is another one that gets no benefit from it. I don't remember all of them, but if you can find my message with the list of the cars and the top speeds I've tested (sorry I've just woke up and I'm tired), the general rule of thumb is that the cars that have the same top speed without and with slipstream can't be bump drafted over said top speed.
:cheers:
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You can bump a R92CP up to speed. The 787B has faster acceleration, getting alongside an R92CP on the straight is pointless since they'll overtake again anyway. But a few harmless taps gives some of your acceleration to the R92CP and then you can hang on their bumper at 372 kph all the way to Mulsanne. After Mulsanne you can pass the R92CP with the better acceleration and stay ahead until the next straight.


sturk0167
Here's me getting a track limit penalty, and then me not getting a penalty on the following lap.




I'm not certain, but I don't believe it had anything to do with the inside curb. At this point, my best guess is that when the outside curb ended, I still had my right-side tires on it. :confused:
Does anybody know for sure? @Sven Jurgens ?

And by the way, doesn't it seem pretty lazy of the developers not to provide detailed track limit diagrams for each track?
Them: "We're not gonna tell you the rules, but be sure not to break them". :lol:
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First one you are outside the white line when the kerb ends at corner exit. As long as the kerb is there it seems that counts as the track limit. Kerb ends, white line is the deciding factor.

What I don't get is what happens at the end of the lap. I get 0.5 sec if my wheels ever so much as an inch go over the line at the end of the Porsche curves (Maison Blanche), yet I've seen cars go wide there without slowing down get nothing. Also the final part, some cars completely ignore parts of the Ford Chicanes and nothing.

Inconsistent as always.
 
Dairyworker
Nice photo! Shared in game? I have not been racing well, but the competition has been clean and i am really happy i started racing. That was my first race that you were in. I am getting better at my consistency and not messing up, but am getting faster and faster rooms
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Yup photo shared. Your livery was too pretty not to take a shot of.

That was a good grid. I had a few laps of back and forth with the Argentinian driver who started 3rd as well as a few others. Some mistakes were made but everybody seemed to own up to it and worked together as much as possible. You and #1 were considerably faster though, like 5 seconds, so I feel the rest of us were just happy to keep up.
 
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