"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[AfraidRacer]

Nobody can teach you to be motivated, but you have to get after it every time you're on track. Ahead by a mile or dead last, you don't let yourself become complacent. Try a slightly different line through T3 and see if it shaves time, brake earlier for T8 to see if it keeps the car more stable and smooth, be more progressive on the throttle in T1 to see if it makes you faster.

I always go as fast as I can. Then I try to work out how to go faster.

I don't do it by pushing though. I vary my line, my inputs, work on consistency and smoothness. But I never really *push*. That implies going over your limit and trying to save the situation.

I also keep racing no matter what. Dead last or ahead by a mile, I don't back off. Until you're past the checkered flag you don't know what will happen. People crash on the final lap all the time. People run out of gas. People collect penalties for not running the right tyres or for cutting the last corner.

If you give up you'll never capitalise on that. You'll also not learn to be faster by doing donuts in the face of adversity...

Haha I was bored lol, wasn't really in the mood for racing.

I'm continuously pushing my limits and on the very edge of wrecking flying off the track... this style of driving suits me best. Lots of retrys pushing the limits like this but I know what the car is capable of and what's too much for it going into the corners. Go big or go home, right?

Same for me, this just means that I'm extremely inconsistent in quali and a bit slower in race.

 

[kungtotte_]

Haha I was bored lol, wasnt really in the mood for racing.

Lewis Hamilton isn't in the mood for racing every single time he's behind the wheel either but he's got the world record for GP victories and is close to tieing for the number of F1 championship titles.

He *manifests* the desire to race and win when he gets suited up.

We have the luxury of this being a game we play from our living rooms and not something we do professionally. If I'm not feeling it on a particular day I won't race, but I don't faff around once I'm actually racing against others. It's about putting your game face on when you click "Enter race".

 

[Jwptexas]

Haha I was bored lol, wasn't really in the mood for racing.

Same for me, this just means that I'm extremely inconsistent in quali and a bit slower in race.

I'm actually really great at qualifying but my race pace is always a little bit off but not usually by much. Just takes a lot of practice to get that consistency down... knowing when exactly your car tends to get loose and knowing the exact moment to correct it before it even happens.

 

[Pigems]

Sorry for late reply Pigems, been super busy at work the last few days, Thanks for taking the time to investigate and explain all this for me and it makes sense now that you have So I don't need to make a new channel elsewhere after all.. Much appreciated mate!

Happy to help out man. Keep up the great work, I’ll catch you some day!

 

[KosmoKazi]

Race A this week sure has been a lot of fun just wish more traffic flowed thru there. In a good lobby seems like only 4-5 A rated drivers rest B rated.

Really is a fun one and sucks you in... it's hard to step away once you jump in. It's so rewarding to nail that tight turn in the back and the chicane, and stay glued to the back of the guy in front of you. When you get on the throttle and you are inches away from the guy ahead when he also nailed it, boy that's fun. I'd love more races there, in PD Dailies or DRWF... (HINT, @Pigems !!).

 

[DanSHW]

I'm actually really great at qualifying but my race pace is always a little bit off but not usually by much. Just takes a lot of practice to get that consistency down... knowing when exactly your car tends to get loose and knowing the exact moment to correct it before it even happens.

I'm the other way around, I'm just racing for the fun of it, I never just go for a qualifying session, my quali laps are done in the entry periods and that's it. Tends to mean I start near the back, but then get to overtake others that have done one great lap in quali but can't keep it together in a race, and I generally get into the top half by the end.

 

[Jwptexas]

I'm the other way around, I'm just racing for the fun of it, I never just go for a qualifying session, my quali laps are done in the entry periods and that's it. Tends to mean I start near the back, but then get to overtake others that have done one great lap in quali but can't keep it together in a race, and I generally get into the top half by the end.

I usually won't race a daily unless I'm starting top 3 or so... sure, I may have to sit in a qualifying session for a while but I'm also rewarded with easy wins & DR gains not too mention I stay out of SR trouble because generally everybody up front is racing cleaner compared to midpack or near the back.

I'd suggest spending more time qualifying personally... great opportunity to test the cars limits without any risk. You start trying to test the cars limits during the actual race and disaster can strike fast.

 

[Jwptexas]

Really is a fun one and sucks you in... it's hard to step away once you jump in. It's so rewarding to nail that tight turn in the back and the chicane, and stay glued to the back of the guy in front of you. When you get on the throttle and you are inches away from the guy ahead when he also nailed it, boy that's fun. I'd love more races there, in PD Dailies or DRWF... (HINT, @Pigems !!).

I'll be back on later today racing A before DRWF tonight you should come join

I'd have to agree the racing has been awesome. The door 2 door side by side action thru the corners is fun as hell lots of great action!

 

[BenRod]

I'll be back on later today racing A before DRWF tonight you should come join

I'd have to agree the racing has been awesome. The door 2 door side by side action thru the corners is fun as hell lots of great action!

Man, you've been absolutely killing it the last couple days in Daily A!

How many wins have you gotten this week?

Always a pleasure to see you out there.

 

[ZiggyS80]

DTS - Gr. 4 has been fun this week. I usually avoid this track as I prefer Gardens and I'm terrible with managing the understeer of FF cars. I'm using the NSX with Hards on a no-stop strategy and its been quite competitive, especially against the TTs. The Vipers are what I'm having trouble with. They kill me on the straights, but the NSX does really well through the twisty bits except when I'm close behind a Viper.

I need to study the replays, but I feel that because my lines are a little different I'm catching a lot of dirty air through the corners and its causing significant understeer. I don't have a good deal of experience racing on this track so I'm not sure if this is common or if I'm just not recognizing my mistakes. I go single file through COD, but everywhere else I may take a different approach from what a FF or FR will do. Do y'all find that dirty air is worse at DTS and, if so, do you find different cars within GR. 4 produce more of it?

 

[Jwptexas]

Man, you've been absolutely killing it the last couple days in Daily A!

How many wins have you gotten this week?

Always a pleasure to see you out there.

Thanks, didn't realize you were on here but I saw you quite a bit yesterday always great racing with other GTP members!

I didn't start doing Daily Race A until that MR2 combo at Brands Hatch but between the two combos I was at 110 wins and currently at 161 wins... so about 51 wins. I'm always hesitant racing the main account on dailies but the racing in A has been too damn clean not to!

 

[roamingbard13]

DTS - Gr. 4 has been fun this week. I usually avoid this track as I prefer Gardens and I'm terrible with managing the understeer of FF cars. I'm using the NSX with Hards on a no-stop strategy and its been quite competitive, especially against the TTs. The Vipers are what I'm having trouble with. They kill me on the straights, but the NSX does really well through the twisty bits except when I'm close behind a Viper.

I need to study the replays, but I feel that because my lines are a little different I'm catching a lot of dirty air through the corners and its causing significant understeer. I don't have a good deal of experience racing on this track so I'm not sure if this is common or if I'm just not recognizing my mistakes. I go single file through COD, but everywhere else I may take a different approach from what a FF or FR will do. Do y'all find that dirty air is worse at DTS and, if so, do you find different cars within GR. 4 produce more of it?

I've noticed a bunch of dirty air through the COD -- it's super hard to take a fast line there through traffic because of the understeer. I haven't really noticed it elsewhere, but the track has decent space at the other corners, and I'm not taking the line directly behind other cars if I'm close enough to be affected by it usually.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Seaside is hands down the best game for racing in the game, no contest. To me, the chicane ruins it as it's too easy to lose a whack of time there. There are legit passing zones, 2 turns with multiple lines and generally great racing if you are in the right room.

 

[Fennario]

Been having fun with the Megane Trophy but still can't match my TT times with it. Light weight + MR = fantastic tire wear and very responsive through the COD/S's. Looses time on the long straights for the first 5 laps but dominates the later half of the race when everyone else is getting greasy.

 

[Jwptexas]

Seaside is hands down the best game for racing in the game, no contest. To me, the chicane ruins it as it's too easy to lose a whack of time there. There are legit passing zones, 2 turns with multiple lines and generally great racing if you are in the right room.

As much as I love DTS, one of my most raced tracks the death chicane is such a deal breaker. Sometimes it just comes down to luck, imo. You can be the fastest driver in the room and lose or vice versa. The rest of the track I'd agree it's a lot of fun in the right room.

 

[roamingbard13]

As much as I love DTS, one of my most raced tracks the death chicane is such a deal breaker. Sometimes it just comes down to luck, imo. You can be the fastest driver in the room and lose or vice versa. The rest of the track I'd agree it's a lot of fun in the right room.

That's why it was much more fun in the RBJ -- the COD became a non-entity because you could (though maybe shouldn't) run multiple lines flat out.

 

[Jwptexas]

That's why it was much more fun in the RBJ -- the COD became a non-entity because you could (though maybe shouldn't) run multiple lines flat out.

I need some more DTS with Redbull Jr cars in my life asap...

 

[KiepeYai]

Next week's races:

Sardegna A - 3 laps - N400
Laguna Seca - 5 laps - Gr.4
Autopolis - 12 laps - Gr.1 - fuel X2, tyres X6, just RH though.

Don't think we've had Autopolis Gr.1 as a daily before?

Damn, Never been so unexcited

 

[ASH32]

With regards to Dragon Trail Seaside, all they have to do is remove the walls(and add a shortcut penalty to enforce limits), maybe even just one of them, at that chicane and the track would be great (at least when run the correct way), as it is it's too frustrating with such a high chance of a crash and that's before some idiot tries to overtake there.

 

[NosOsH]

I just need to limp my sr along this week and avoid a DR A reset, for next week and I should be able to get back to 99 at Autopolis next week no problem, maybe even push for an A+ rating....
That is as long as it isnt a grid start
T1 there can be dicey...

 

[Pigems]

I just need to limp my sr along this week and avoid a DR A reset, for next week and I should be able to get back to 99 at Autopolis next week no problem, maybe even push for an A+ rating....
That is as long as it isnt a grid start
T1 there can be dicey...

It’s a rolling start. 👍

 

[05XR8]

With regards to Dragon Trail Seaside, all they have to do is remove the walls(and add a shortcut penalty to enforce limits), maybe even just one of them, at that chicane and the track would be great (at least when run the correct way), as it is it's too frustrating with such a high chance of a crash and that's before some idiot tries to overtake there.

Video at 11...

 

[astrarobotica]

You should find the car you are most comfortable with and then try to master the track with it. Some cars are just not for you. Power FR cars seem to work best for me but I drive the Gr3. AMG GT the best. I cannot get a grip on MR cars and FF is just meh when running the TT or Pug.

To add to this, I recommend ignoring the meta of picking the most popular car in a given race altogether. I see so many decent-but-average drivers pick the car the fastest drivers typically use, but they don't have the consistency with that car to actually capitalize on it's strengths, and usually end up worse off than if they had just picked a car they were comfortable with. Do not do this! The meta is, in most cases, a lie (especially if you aren't competing at a top level), and will give you a false sense of security if you try to use it to compensate for your own shortcomings as a driver.

 

[NoStopN]

Oh I'm sure people will drive FFs and they'll be fast, but I would rather eat broken glass than drive FFs so I'm fine driving my FR or MR cars even if they're not competitive.

Agreed. The FF cars drive worse than any other car in the game, in my opinion.

 

[kjeldsen]

10 laps of pure racing.. well almost, only one dirty driver in this race had it out for me.. anyway, i don't think i remember a race with so much fighting going on, for so many laps, back and forth between 3 cars pretty much until the last corner..

 

[05XR8]

Lord have us mercy!
If you want, check Laps 1, 5 and 9&10. Yeah, penalties are a joke as usual. The braking in the COD is wack.

 

[Little_Guppy]

Oh I'm sure people will drive FFs and they'll be fast, but I would rather eat broken glass than drive FFs <... snip...>

Agreed. The FF cars drive worse than any other car in the game, in my opinion.

Alright, I like the FF cars, I like that they are legitimized in a fast "Gr.4" level, and I like that they are BoP'ed and mixed with FR and MR cars. There, I said it!

Here's why:

• They are easier to drive and act as a equalizer for less experienced drivers.
• It provides a path for newbies to graduate to Gr.3,2,1,X type racers. In my first foray in to "Gr" races I used a Gr 3 Huracan at Interlagos and it was completely unmanageable. Then I got to drive an Gr 4 RCZ and I realized I could manage a faster car than N200 and compete. The game does well where it allows a progression from newbie to power user with tools like TCS, BB, Brake assist, the yellow brick road and cones. The FF car is one of those tools.
• Agreed, FF cars have an unfair BoP advantage at some track combos. However, the Daily Race C at DTS this week and St Croix (two weeks ago) had a great balance. With tire wear and longer stints the FR one-stoppers are hard to beat even though the FF cars qualify well.
• There are a bunch of other Gr classes with no FF cars. They are restricted to Gr.4 level - one corner of the game. It simply adds another welcome dimension.

I am not giving up my TT or RCZ any time soon. So, fling your arrows.

PS. In the not-so-distant future I am going to ask for help as I am so bad at Gr 3 cars. You can point back to this post as a root cause if you must.

 

[05XR8]

Bathurst was the wrong track to reacquaint myself with the Genesis. I got Smash boom crashed. Red S. Funnily enough, a B/S Genesis won.

 

[NoStopN]

There are a bunch of other Gr classes with no FF cars. They are restricted to Gr.4 level - one corner of the game. It simply adds another welcome dimension.

PS. In the not-so-distant future I am going to ask for help as I am so bad at Gr 3 cars. You can point back to this post as a root cause if you must.

True, Gr. 4 is the only race class with FWD cars (scratch that, damn Gr. 1 GT-R LM Nismo), but I do dabble in other classes. I love Gr. 3 more than Gr. 4, but I do enjoy the challenge of Gr. 2. Gr. 1....forget it. I haven't been able to figure that out.

PS. Tip: use traction control when you start using Gr. 3 cars. When you become more comfortable with them, you can reduce TC. I suggest no more than TC2. Anything else will kill power on corner exit. TC2 will reduce power, but is the best balanced level of traction control.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Alright, I like the FF cars, I like that they are legitimized in a fast "Gr.4" level, and I like that they are BoP'ed and mixed with FR and MR cars. There, I said it!

Here's why:

• They are easier to drive and act as a equalizer for less experienced drivers.
• It provides a path for newbies to graduate to Gr.3,2,1,X type racers. In my first foray in to "Gr" races I used a Gr 3 Huracan at Interlagos and it was completely unmanageable. Then I got to drive an Gr 4 RCZ and I realized I could manage a faster car than N200 and compete. The game does well where it allows a progression from newbie to power user with tools like TCS, BB, Brake assist, the yellow brick road and cones. The FF car is one of those tools.
• Agreed, FF cars have an unfair BoP advantage at some track combos. However, the Daily Race C at DTS this week and St Croix (two weeks ago) had a great balance. With tire wear and longer stints the FR one-stoppers are hard to beat even though the FF cars qualify well.
• There are a bunch of other Gr classes with no FF cars. They are restricted to Gr.4 level - one corner of the game. It simply adds another welcome dimension.

I am not giving up my TT or RCZ any time soon. So, fling your arrows.

PS. In the not-so-distant future I am going to ask for help as I am so bad at Gr 3 cars. You can point back to this post as a root cause if you must.

I think your points are valid, actually. But there are problems that counters your points.

1. Two thirds of daily races are with no tire wear. Those are always dominated by FF. And while they can act as an entry way for beginners because they are easy to drive they often wreck others races because they drift wide on exit and by doing so forces other drivers off.

2. When tire multiplyers are so high that the FF's can't dominate, the new drivers often gets so frustrated that they start to drive reckless or dirty.