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[vicbol]

Try the Merc.

P7 and P8 are death as it's mid corner start time

Why on earth do you go to lap 6? Always, always pit lap 4 or 5 or don't pit at all.

I use the Merc in Bathurst race and my fastest race times are going to lap 6.
The car is great saving tyres. Just having a pace of 2:06 till lap 6 and then full attack for laps 7,8,9 with 2:04 is my best combo.

Tryed to pit on 4/5 and is was overall race time slower

 

[05XR8]

Damn, man. Impatient players. Started 16th/18. Got to 12th by 4th lap. Pit and jumped 5 cars to 6th at pit exit.
So, next lap, dudes get impatient and have to fight behind. Dude unsettles my rear and passes. Then, a Mustang attempts a pass before Sulman. I go. Into the dirt. Freaking hell, man. Down to 11th.


Then, i get the I'm sorry message. Don't want it. He would have burned me down the straights Anyway. I had 32% in tank to everyone else's 9%. Just ruined my race.

 

[Loverson]

I will never understand a racer trying to fight someone who:
-has pitted before and has 4 or 5 seconds faster pace than you
-knows that you still need to pit

Also the guy that fought this top driver was never gonna make it top 5 or higher

Absolutely no point whatsoever on doing it, you're not gonna get any advantage, just annoyance to other drivers.

 

[Hasnain282]

Past 20000 posts on this thread now

 

[05XR8]

Oh, haha. This Ol dirty Lamborghini driver fro Japan in an M4. Takes out a Huracan and is slow out the chicane on the last lap. Tries to spin me to slow me down. Is it really that important?

 

[RZQSPEED]

20000th post of this thread

Oh, haha. This Ol dirty Lamborghini driver fro Japan in an M4. Takes out a Huracan and is slow out the chicane on the last lap. Tries to spin me to slow me down. Is it really that important?

Hmmm... I wonder who he is?

 

[NevilleNobody]

So after weeks of crappy combos and bleeding Dr, I do two nights at bathurst, nab four podiums, a win, gain 3500 Dr points and increased Sr to A.

An employee in another province has been a tool and I gotta leave today to sort it out (harassment case), so bunkered in last night for my last lash around the Mountain.

Then wifey says would be nice to watch something together Ok, that's nice, appreciate the sentiment..... But...but bafurst...

I agree and turn the ps4 off, after 40 minutes she fell asleep and it was too late for me to get into it.

Dang.

 

[MhtyClipster]

Wow some crazy drivers on race B this morning. SR DOWN
Gained a lil DR but not a lot of point because unless I switch to race C soon I am probably heading for a reset, I just can't keep having so many bad races.
Just did another race B, on the end of race screen the driver who hit me apologises with the "I'm sorry", so clearly their mistake? Nah SR Down another 10 points, cheers PD but surely braking when approaching a corner is not brake checking? Time to head down under, wish me luck.

 

[Invisigoth]

Qualifying at the Mountain, then waiting for the midnight run. I was struggling with a number of cars to beat my Mustang time. Finally beat it by 1/10 with the NSX. Tonight I went back to an old fav, the black bird. Managed to gain another 1/2s, so tonight it's time for the Stuttgart taxi.

Edit: I was qualifiied P11/19. Race matching really did a number on me. I was the highest starting DR/D. There was a DR/C and a DR/A above me, the other 8 were DR/B .

Auto drive dumps me just before Murray's in the wrong gear, so I have to take action *fast* . Made it all the way to The Cutting before I was rear ended. The problem with DR/B drivers, is that they seem to have that "win at all cost" mentality. I discovered that I was quite a bit faster than some of the others in certain arias, and that made braking difficult at times. I saw far too many orange SRs. Maybe 3 were my fault, the rest were from being smashed in braking zones. There was this one guy in an Evo who was all over the place. I saw him crash pass on several occasions, including me. Twice he did that on Forrest Elbow to cars ahead. He tried it on me, but there was no room, I was hugging the inside . He pitted on lap 4. Then I pitted, I came out with this clown in front of me, and just so unstable. I stuck to him for 2 laps, knowing he'd screw up, and sure enough he did. I passed him at the cutting in the inside while he was scraping the outer wall . I got Forest Elbow a little wrong, and he tried to crash through. Didn't work. I ended up crossing the line P11 with 16s lead on the digby .

Ya should see the damage Bronze. Metal damage. Brain damage.... DR went up 270, but I lost 12 SR points . Back to SR/A and more drama to try and claw it back. I really hope they fix this penalty for getting rear ended soon . Another day above DR 1.... Meh.

 

[Mr616]

So after weeks of crappy combos and bleeding Dr, I do two nights at bathurst, nab four podiums, a win, gain 3500 Dr points and increased Sr to A.

An employee in another province has been a tool and I gotta leave today to sort it out (harassment case), so bunkered in last night for my last lash around the Mountain.

Then wifey says would be nice to watch something together Ok, that's nice, appreciate the sentiment..... But...but bafurst...

I agree and turn the ps4 off, after 40 minutes she fell asleep and it was too late for me to get into it.

Dang.

Women

Race B has been so good to me. A qually of 1.46.6xx has seen me on pole and bagged me some wins, and I may even be able to stay in DR:A+ for a few more days!

I've had fast, competitive but clean racing all week so far. Props to everybody I've shared the track with.

 

[Chiefy17]

How bout you do a race and watch the replay together....compromise

So after weeks of crappy combos and bleeding Dr, I do two nights at bathurst, nab four podiums, a win, gain 3500 Dr points and increased Sr to A.

An employee in another province has been a tool and I gotta leave today to sort it out (harassment case), so bunkered in last night for my last lash around the Mountain.

Then wifey says would be nice to watch something together Ok, that's nice, appreciate the sentiment..... But...but bafurst...

I agree and turn the ps4 off, after 40 minutes she fell asleep and it was too late for me to get into it.

Dang.

 

[Jamey Steel]

I’ve been trying to do race B, I’ve just got disconnected 2 times in a row, at the exact same place.

Count down timer ends, it goes to the screen with the driver sitting on the floor in the garage, with the qualifying times and driver rankings listed.....then just disconnects back to the main Sport menu, where I have to wait 3 minutes to join a new 15 minute qualifying session.

Edit: just tried Race A, disconnected at the exact same point again.

Wtf is going on?

Edit 2: I can’t connect to online lobbies either. I get booted back to the main lobby before connecting to the room. What. The. Hell!?

Edit 3: restarted my PS4, I can connect to lobbies, waiting for quali to end to see if I can get in a sport mode race.

Did you manage to resolve at all?
Exactly the same is happening to me today!

 

[Mirror_man]

Guys?? Which is the "dominant" car (top 10 marks.. at least) on Bathurst (Race C)???

 

[bone_tone]

Guys?? Which is the "dominant" car (top 10 marks.. at least) on Bathurst (Race C)???

In terms of qualifying times, it's the Ford GT LM, but I haven't seen one win any of the races I've been in so far.

Winning cars seem to be quite diverse - I've seen the Beetle, the Corvette, Mustang, and the RC F all have wins.

 

[Mirror_man]

In terms of qualifying times, it's the Ford GT LM, but I haven't seen one win any of the races I've been in so far.

Winning cars seem to be quite diverse - I've seen the Beetle, the Corvette, Mustang, and the RC F all have wins.

Thanks! Bone! I just needed to know that!

 

[sturk0167]

So, I did race C, today and it was fairly uneventful. About 45 minutes later, I got a PSN message from some dude that said "You are a disgraceful driver and I just made a video featuring you. Blocked" I'm wondering who the hell this is and what in the world is he talking about?

So, I got online and did some searching. After not too long, I found his video.

Here's what happened; It was a mixed A/B SR race. I started 14th (no qualifying). This guy started 9th, with a 2:17 qualifying time. Halfway through lap 1, I'm on his tail. Obviously, it would be better for both of us if he made a little room, and we each went our separate ways. Apparently, that thought didn't occur to him. He seemed to be inexperienced or unfamiliar with the track, because he was slowing down in unusual and unexpected places. Because I wasn't expecting him to be slowing down so much, he ended up getting a few bumper taps. Any experienced driver watching the video knows that these contacts are not intended to take someone out. As you can see, I instead took myself out twice, trying to get by him, cleanly. The final contact, where I ended up spinning him, was a result of him hitting the wall, which has the effect of slamming on the brakes right in front of me.

I understand his frustration with all the orange SR downs. They are mostly ridiculous. He typed a huge rant in the video description about how the faster drivers are trying to ruin his life, or something crazy like that. He says I'm the 20th driver on his blocked list. What's that tell you?

Watch the video and tell me what you think?

 

[Sven Jurgens]

^ I know what you mean. I'll watch it later got to go in a minute.
Edit: @sturk0167 I watched it now. It's hard to see what's going on from your perspective as he doesn't have a rear view mirror He does crawl through the track yet once you accidentally bumped him the first time, it's on you to adjust to his driving 'style' and not hit again. It can be frustrating, I have been stuck behind these slowing me down 5 sec off my pace with the inexperienced braking and swerving. There's always the pit to pass, either save fuel or pit a lap earlier or later. No need for that video anyway. The only thing it illustrates is matchmaking failure.

Just wanted to leave this here quick

Get murdered in the cutting and get SR Down and 4 sec penalty for it. I lift of the gas for the slight left, he powers into me and still goes into the wall despite using me as a brake, then bump passes me into the wall again. He comes away clean, ridiculous system.

Or perhaps PD is on to something and society has it all wrong. We should fine shop keepers for getting shop lifted as they obviously don't protect their wares well enough. Put people whose house get broken into in jail for living in the wrong area / not having enough steel bars on the windows and doors. Fine drivers for driving near a drunk driver. Get hit by a drunk driver, jail time for you. You should know better than getting near those people.

That's it, punish the good people so they will clean up their act. Bad people will always be bad, no point punishing them right!

 

[Arcflyer]

It's one of those annoying things with GTS - you run a few laps in between races and the race countdown runs out just before you are due to cross the line.

Driving race B tonight, I have just about time for three laps - my first is rubbish, my second is just slower than my current qt of 1.47.150 which I haven't got near for the last few days.
On to the third lap - I am up in all sectors and I even manage to negotiate the last corner before the long straight without losing time - I'm fast approaching the last kink before the finish line and ......
The countdown reaches zero
Anyway, I enter the race. It's a clean race and I manage to gain a place from 6th to 5th. At least that was good news.

I enter straight away to get in a few laps in before the next race - The first lap, no running time and no comparison to any previous laps - I hit every corner almost perfectly, the lap feels good and I eventually cross the line in a new personal best of 1.46.865 - at that time 111th in the EU region. .
A few more clean races with good results and That's me done for tonight - wow was that fun tonight !!!

 

[WheelmanSteve]

It's one of those annoying things with GTS - you run a few laps in between races and the race countdown runs out just before you are due to cross the line.

And then you sit in the "waiting for drivers to finish getting ready" screen for long enough to do another full lap. Hey, I'm ready. You ready?

 

[VeeDoubleU]

So, I did race C, today and it was fairly uneventful. About 45 minutes later, I got a PSN message from some dude that said "You are a disgraceful driver and I just made a video featuring you. Blocked" I'm wondering who the hell this is and what in the world is he talking about?

The whole stuff about the SR down for drivers ahead but not behind (often demonstrated on Blue Moon) is obviously a very poor PD System, however that driver in the video often is going at a odd and dangerously low speed (1:35-1:50), including not even going full throttle on a straight (1:44) , so that driver is to blame in that instance, and also the incident where he spun was because he crashed.

He clearly isn't able to drive in a controlled way (you also show that at times but you know that). Driving not at full throttle on a straight doesn't make the driver a good sportsman.

Also, the video description says 'inb4 "lol its all ur falt 4 being slow kys"'

Like, there is a difference between being slow and not being full throttle on a straight. There is predictable slowness and unpredictable slowness.

 

[sturk0167]

The whole stuff about the SR down for drivers ahead but not behind (often demonstrated on Blue Moon) is obviously a very poor PD System, however that driver in the video often is going at a odd and dangerously low speed (1:35-1:50), including not even going full throttle on a straight (1:44) , so that driver is to blame in that instance, and also the incident where he spun was because he crashed.

He clearly isn't able to drive in a controlled way (you also show that at times but you know that). Driving not at full throttle on a straight doesn't make the driver a good sportsman.

Also, the video description says 'inb4 "lol its all ur falt 4 being slow kys"'

Like, there is a difference between being slow and not being full throttle on a straight. There is predictable slowness and unpredictable slowness.

Thank you. It was pretty bizarre and pretty surprising to get a message like that from somebody. I think he's so new that he doesn't understand that his wounds are self-inflicted.

 

[stpatty]

He barely cracks 70mph when going down the mountain. That was painful to watch.

 

[Pedinhuh]

I watched it now. It's hard to see what's going on from your perspective as he doesn't have a rear view mirror

That's the reason why I switched from hood cam to cockpit cam, I'm not exactly a fast driver as I worry more about finishing in the upper half of the grid while keeping my SR/DR level, and a rear view mirror works better than the radar for me, though I couldn't adapt to the bumper cam as I completely lose all dimensional references of my car.

 

[sturk0167]

it's on you to adjust to his driving 'style'

I understand what you're saying, but in the racing context, I guess I'm not as kind as you are. Clearly, I never tried to wreck him, but I'm not gonna just slow to match his erratic and unpredictable pace, while the cars in front pull away, and the cars behind catch up. Since he was taking up the whole track, I stayed close behind to put the pressure on and every time he braked in an unusual place, he essentially backed up into me. At least that's how I see it. Maybe that's why I can't maintain a consistent SR but, at any rate, he massively over-reacted.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I understand what you're saying, but in the racing context, I guess I'm not as kind as you are. Clearly, I never tried to wreck him, but I'm not gonna just slow match his erratic and unpredictable pace, while the cars in front pull away, and the cars behind catch up. Since he was taking up the whole track, I stayed close behind to put the pressure on and every time he braked in an unusual place, he essentially backed up into me. At least that's how I see it. Maybe that's why I can't maintain a consistent SR but, at any rate, he massively over-reacted.

Yes he did over react badly, what did he expect jumping in like that fully unprepared. I checked his stats. That was his 16th sport race and very first on Mount Panorama. His best lap was a 2:18. It's matchmaking gone horribly wrong. There should be a big L next to his name in the race

However to maintain a 99 SR you will have to adjust as you did get quite lucky there. I easily end up with a 5 sec penalty from inexperienced drivers so it's mostly self preservation to keep more than a car length distance at all times and only move in when the risk is very low. The hardest spot is still the turn onto Conrod straight. It's the safest place to pass, yet some people are so bad at that turn that to avoid them you pretty much have to come to a complete stop ruining any chance at a better exit. Or when you do avoid them you're already passed them at the slight left after Forest's elbow, and they draft back up on the straight to try some irresponsible move.

When you start last, don't worry about the front getting away. If you want DR, qualify. Racing without qualifying is a different game and most rewarding when you come out without any contact or penalties. There are races where I never get to stretch my legs and always drive under my pace. Yet that means the whole race was fun. Trying to predict what the car in front is going to do and indeed also put a bit of pressure here and there. You don't need to be that close to put the pressure on though, most people get quite nervous when you are matching their every move, keeping the same distance no matter what, occasionally feigning a pass to move right back behind. Sometimes it feels like a fencing match except the objective here is not to touch. The longer it takes to pass a car the better it feels to pass them clean and then speed away.

Cars catching up from behind can be a problem. They can be fun to watch as well. Let them have a crack at trying to pass the erratic driver, chances are they'll either take each other out or the impatient driver will end up with a penalty and the obstacle has been cleared

 

[Veinz]

He should spend more time practing than making these rediculous videos. It’s difficult to race clean with players like this.

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

3 x SR downs at dragon trail for minor taps, the most annoying of those was touching a rear bumper when he lost the back end through the bus stop. I’m sure this game used to be enjoyable?

Edit: ok maybe a slight over reaction BUT (the penalty system does still suck). Turns out I was just using the wrong car, was using the viper and after setting up a fast exit to overtake the TT’s they would still pull away, so I jumped in my own TT and overtook plenty of cars. Then set a Q-Time fast enough for P2 and won the next race.

 

[rono_thomas]

I honestly think that the guy has a legitmate claim, @sturk0167. That is quite clearly showing how broken the SR system is in this way, it has penalised the wrong driver.

 

[JayOTT]

I honestly think that the guy has a legitmate claim

I don't. The only bump that you can blame Sturk for in any way is the first one, and neither party is affected so it's just a racing incident. Second bump, complainer is 10mph slower than they should be going. Third bump, 20mph slower. Final bump, already in the wall. And they lost any credibility they might have had by acting like a certain c-word that would get me banned from GT Planet.

 

[rono_thomas]

I don't. The only bump that you can blame Sturk for in any way is the first one, and neither party is affected so it's just a racing incident. Second bump, complainer is 10mph slower than they should be going. Third bump, 20mph slower. Final bump, already in the wall. And they lost any credibility they might have had by acting like a certain c-word that would get me banned from GT Planet.

Its up to Sturk to get past safe and clean, unless the car in front is going much slower then any contact that occurs is then because they are going slow. That’s what’s been agreed?

Edit: putting the guys creditability aside I’m only commenting on the driving that I’m seeing from a fellow GTP’er.