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unless the car in front is going much slower.
Which they are? Tapping the brakes at Frog Hollow despite already going slow enough to make the corner is my definition of much slower. Case in point, they still make the corner despite getting punted.
 
Which they are? Tapping the brakes at Frog Hollow despite already going slow enough to make the corner is my definition of much slower. Case in point, they still make the corner despite getting punted.
You have misunderstood my post. Yes they are going slower, that does not mean getting punted is their fault, their qually time is a massive 7sec slower than comparable DR B times in the lobby. They will drive the course differently.

Edit: I am actually shocked that GTP members believe that a less skilled driver is game to be punted because they are not able to drive the course as quick as them.
 
Daily Race C, 13:30 Room
Car Used: BMW Z4 GT3 '11 (Livery used)

Pole position! But then 3 drivers that could've acted as buffers got kicked out, leaving me having to defend the Smileyface GTI driven by @Hoof Arted. First stint went well, utilising the handling of the car on the mountain section, but I went really sloppy on the mountain during the In Lap. The Z4 was not the greatest of fuel savers so I went in with 19% fuel, while said GTI went in with 27% fuel! Because of that, he simply jumped me in the pits, and then a certain Makozi_Akademik, who sets the Fastest Lap of the race, decided to do an overcut, but I went past him on the run into T3, so his overcut didn't work against us. In the end though, it's GTP 1-2 with the Smileyface GTI taking the victory. At the end of the race, the gap between me and 3rd was at around 11 seconds!

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Daily Race C, 14:30 Room
Car Used: Jaguar F-type Gr.3 (Livery used)

Pole position, again! This time though, I was able to improve my qualy time by a margin using said car. It was slightly uneventful for myself as I cruise to victory, but there is some interesting competition from Sisters_Racing, who used a pink Beetle that advertises their YouTube channel, on the first few sectors, that is until they went too fast exiting Sulman Park. One thing to note is that they used an Automatic Transmission! As a consequence of not being able to short shift (though they could've used the Fuel Map), they ended up going into the pits with only 1% fuel left! It is also not helped by having a fellow AT user in an Aston battling with them. Because of that, the gap between me and 2nd is over 16 seconds!
 
Get murdered in the cutting and get SR Down and 4 sec penalty for it. I lift of the gas for the slight left, he powers into me and still goes into the wall despite using me as a brake, then bump passes me into the wall again. He comes away clean, ridiculous system.

Or perhaps PD is on to something and society has it all wrong. We should fine shop keepers for getting shop lifted as they obviously don't protect their wares well enough. Put people whose house get broken into in jail for living in the wrong area / not having enough steel bars on the windows and doors. Fine drivers for driving near a drunk driver. Get hit by a drunk driver, jail time for you. You should know better than getting near those people.

That's it, punish the good people so they will clean up their act. Bad people will always be bad, no point punishing them right!

You're absolutely right. The penalty system sometimes works quite well but also makes a lot of mistakes. Yesterday in Race B, a driver loses control of his car. He then touches the wall first, then me and then the wall again. The result was 5 seconds penalty and a massive SR reduction for me. A lap later, the driver behind me uses me in the hairpin as a brake. Therefore I go far and he overtakes me. In doing this, he brushes my side. For this I got another 5 seconds. In the replay, I later saw that I was not the only one with whom it did so. At the end of the race he had a blue SR S and I dropped to A.
 
Daily Race C, 13:30 Room
Car Used: BMW Z4 GT3 '11 (Livery used)

Pole position! But then 3 drivers that could've acted as buffers got kicked out, leaving me having to defend the Smileyface GTI driven by @Hoof Arted. First stint went well, utilising the handling of the car on the mountain section, but I went really sloppy on the mountain during the In Lap. The Z4 was not the greatest of fuel savers so I went in with 19% fuel, while said GTI went in with 27% fuel! Because of that, he simply jumped me in the pits, and then a certain Makozi_Akademik, who sets the Fastest Lap of the race, decided to do an overcut, but I went past him on the run into T3, so his overcut didn't work against us. In the end though, it's GTP 1-2 with the Smileyface GTI taking the victory. At the end of the race, the gap between me and 3rd was at around 11 seconds!

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Daily Race C, 14:30 Room
Car Used: Jaguar F-type Gr.3 (Livery used)

Pole position, again! This time though, I was able to improve my qualy time by a margin using said car. It was slightly uneventful for myself as I cruise to victory, but there is some interesting competition from Sisters_Racing, who used a pink Beetle that advertises their YouTube channel, on the first few sectors, that is until they went too fast exiting Sulman Park. One thing to note is that they used an Automatic Transmission! As a consequence of not being able to short shift (though they could've used the Fuel Map), they ended up going into the pits with only 1% fuel left! It is also not helped by having a fellow AT user in an Aston battling with them. Because of that, the gap between me and 2nd is over 16 seconds!

Good to see you in a race again! You drove the Z4 very well; it's a bit of a mismatch with the VW GTi vs Z4. And yeah, I was kind of waiting until the pit stops. The GTi's tyres go off a bit on lap 4 onwards so was happy to lose time over the top of the mountain but regain it down the straights with the GTi power! HAve you tried the Lexus? Short-shifting with it yielded me 32% left after 5 laps when I tried it earlier in the week!
 
Edit: I am actually shocked that GTP members believe that a less skilled driver is game to be punted because they are not able to drive the course as quick as them.
You're putting words in my mouth. The slow driver is not game to be punted, at least not on purpose. But when you have someone as slow as that on a narrow track like Bathurst, accidents can happen. You can make the argument that faster drivers can't be that aggressive in real life, but then I can make the argument that someone who is 10 seconds per lap slower would be deemed too inept to race in real life.

And the punted driver was unaffected by every punt except the last one, where they had already hit the wall and Sturk had little chance to react to the error. That's why I think our block-happy player is making an issue out of a non-issue. The SR down system sucks, but that's no excuse to throw a fit at other drivers who really didn't punt on purpose. Everyone gets to S SR sooner or later as long as they don't make a habit of bad driving.
 
I just can't get my head around the penalty system, so I've reached the stage where I tend to shrug my shoulders and carry on.

Yesterday I was playing in Race A. In one race I was getting a few orange 'SR down" arrows, mainly because of other cars trying to squeeze inside on bends where there was no room (although I did have a couple of self-induced arrows too) - at the end of the race I see I have lost several thousand DR points and my SR has dropped like a stone too. One race to go from B/B to D/E (I'm working my way back slowly but surely).

In the next race I get deliberately side swiped onto the sand and are re-set onto the track (the Mini takes about an hour to accelerate to full speed). I managed to pass one car in the remaining few laps and a few more were either DQ'd or gave up, so I finished 6th. However (and this is the bit that gets me), the guy who deliberately side swiped me has no red spot at the end of the race and a blue SR letter.
 
I don't. The only bump that you can blame Sturk for in any way is the first one, and neither party is affected so it's just a racing incident. Second bump, complainer is 10mph slower than they should be going. Third bump, 20mph slower. Final bump, already in the wall. And they lost any credibility they might have had by acting like a certain c-word that would get me banned from GT Planet.

There are plenty of straights to set up blasting past. Squeezing into gaps around the mountain following somebody who is erratic/slow is not the thing to do, no matter how slow they seem.

You can argue they need more practice and shouldn't enter the race, but it's public matchmaking. Anybody can jump in with zero practice. It's on the person following to adjust their driving.

You should avoid contact. "On purpose" is subjective anyway, but you cannot run your own pace following another driver. That is fact. You have to adapt to what is in front of you.

Do I think the yellow Corvette is slow? Yes
Should they be more familiar with the track before entering? Ideally yes
Could the SR system be better? Yes
Do I agree with them posting videos complaining, while they are doing themselves no favours by entering a race they clearly are not familiar with? No.

But if you can see somebody struggling, it's easy to just back off a little and wait for an opportunity. Trying to drive quick behind somebody like that, results in somebody losing out.
 
If SR was as difficult to maintain as DR that certainly would help with the matchmaking.I make mistakes like everybody else,but I rather loose position than ruin someone's race .I do warm up for at least 1/2 hour ,it does make a difference.As far as the penalty system goes,it's an enigma we simply have to deal with .Bathurst is one of those tracks where patience and car control are extremely important ,Just my opinion .:gtpflag:
 
Yellow Corvette obviously has issues outside GT (16 races, 20 blocked people, references to slavery and Sony and somehow all connected to his one and only race at Bathurst...) but looking from the other angle, guy was doing 2.18 on the mountain. That's not slow, that's practically walking speed and do you really need to try to overtake him at the essess at full speed ? He was not blocking, he was just trying to stay on track...
If it was the real track day, he would be banned because he is danger on the track, but this is a game - he bought it like everybody else and i don't think that any matchmaking can do something with 2.18:00
Videos and whole his campaign is BS, but the other car should just wait for a few corners and make a clean pass. At his speed, how hard can it be ?

I was (am ...) also a newbie, but once I accepted the fact that the poles and wins are very very very rare if you are not extremely good and don't ping pong between DR classes the game is actually very fun. I can fight for any position and it is very easy to tap someone to pass him, but where is the fun in that ? It's way more satisfying to win a clean fight
 
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In terms of qualifying times, it's the Ford GT LM, but I haven't seen one win any of the races I've been in so far.

Winning cars seem to be quite diverse - I've seen the Beetle, the Corvette, Mustang, and the RC F all have wins.
Correction - have now seen the first Ford GT win, but it was the guy currently in P2 on the European server!
 
There are plenty of straights to set up blasting past. Squeezing into gaps around the mountain following somebody who is erratic/slow is not the thing to do, no matter how slow they seem.

You can argue they need more practice and shouldn't enter the race, but it's public matchmaking. Anybody can jump in with zero practice. It's on the person following to adjust their driving.

You should avoid contact. "On purpose" is subjective anyway, but you cannot run your own pace following another driver. That is fact. You have to adapt to what is in front of you.

Do I think the yellow Corvette is slow? Yes
Should they be more familiar with the track before entering? Ideally yes
Could the SR system be better? Yes
Do I agree with them posting videos complaining, while they are doing themselves no favours by entering a race they clearly are not familiar with? No.

But if you can see somebody struggling, it's easy to just back off a little and wait for an opportunity. Trying to drive quick behind somebody like that, results in somebody losing out.

While I generally agree with everything you said, @sturk0167 was driving in SR.A and last night I had the unfortunate pleasure to experience his exact same frustrations.

First, why did I get to SR.A? Thanks to this unpleasant fellow bumping me throughout the race and getting me 2 penalties. In lap 4 he drafted up on my outside, tried to undercut and hit the back of my car while spinning out. I get 4 sec penalty for that.
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Then later he tries this unbelievable stunt, overtaking on the pit lane. He makes contact then loses it for another 3 sec penalty for me.
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These 2 panalties together with the other SR Downs I got from draft bumpers put me down to SR 74.

So next race I start with the SR.A crowd, still driving from the back. I try my best to avoid the slow inexperienced wobbly drivers, get bumped from behind a couple times while in traffic yet don't hit anyone myself and finish 2nd. I only gain 4 SR for my efforts to 77.

Next 2 races are even worse for matchmaking:

In the first race the car in front forces me to almost come to a stop after which I naturally get rammed from behind, 4 sec penalty for me :banghead: I'm about to rage quit yet I press on, manage to avoid everyone else for the rest of the race and finish 3rd, still lose 5 SR, down to 73

The second race (starting at 1:30) I get stuck behind another wobbly excruciatingly slow car. I can't avoid him in Forest's elbow where he's turning on his nose scraping against the wall with traffic behind me. Luckily the penalty system 'glitches' and for once I don't get a penalty for someone else's bad driving. He turns right instead of left at the end of lap 1 giving me room to continue on to 3rd place with clean race bonus! +13 SR to 86. (Max is 15, so that contact still took 2 SR yet no SR Down thus clean race bonus :))

I did one more for another clean race bonus and 3rd place finish, racing through traffic with another clean fast driver who started last, right behind me. He chased me for 4 laps through traffic then we swapped places in lap 5 when I had to brake for a car losing control. I chased him until lap 9 when we were up to 3rd and me 4th. I was close behind again after he had put some distance on me in the pit, however it turned out that that distance he got on me was by not taking on enough fuel. He indicated for me to pass and did the rest of the lap conserving fuel. Awesome race. An 8 lap clean battle through traffic, doesn't get better than that.

Anyway, to get back to the point. It's not just easy to back of a little. It's actually very hard. For one, the car can get unstable at low speeds when you are in corners that work better with a little throttle. All the little brake adjustments unsettle the car as well. And then you have the traffic behind you... I've been racing without qualifying since the weeklies and still learning!
 
Another day of drama on The Mountain. Yesterday's crash fest saw me drop down to SR/A and then tonight saw match fixing erm I mean race matching screwed me over. I took the love bug for a spin, because I happen to like it :p. It's not as far fetched as people seem to think. BoP makes it less powerful and heavier than the AWD beetles that are real, existing race cars that were being used in rallycross ;).

So my quali? P12/15. Hmm.. P1-10 were DR/Bs with a couple of A's thrown in. That's fair :crazy:.

Race starts and auto drive leaves me careening towards Murray's in the wrong gear. I made it through Hell Corner, but only because I saw the idiot behind me coming in way too hot up the inside. Bit of braking by me saw him miss his intended brake helper (me) and into the sand trap.

The carnage unfolded and I managed to keep my nose clean, or so I thought. I played the patience game with a rather erratic GTR backing off when I was getting too close, because there were many places he struggling with. Eventually he went too wide into the chase and off into the sand.

I was on lap 5 when I was unlucky enough to be going up Mountain Strait when people were coming out of the pits. I had to change direction suddenly because the digby coming out of the pits didn't bother to see if there was any other traffic. He was right up my arse at Griffins and then slammed me into the wall, where I was then hit by at least 3 other cars who decided that I wasn't there. I then set about chasing after the last 2. I was steadily closing the gap and had to play the patience game on the last lap. I was hoping the two in front would take each other out. No such luck. I had the jump on the guy in front at Murrays, but the rear locked and he re-took the place on the start/finish strait. I finished P13.

DR down 300, SR up only 4. I really need to get my SR back so I can find some clean racing. Another day above DR 1 :rolleyes:.
 
It's the first time I comment in this forum, but I gotta say, I really don't agree with the complaints I see here about the penalty system. If anything, the system is too lenient sometimes. You can have 2 or 3 incidents in the same race and still be comfortably in S. I do agree that sometimes it can be tough in lower SR races, but once I've got to S, I didn't find it hard to stay there. The problem that I see very often is people driving in the first lap with the same lines they do in qualifying. If you do that every race you're obviously going to have trouble.
 
You have misunderstood my post. Yes they are going slower, that does not mean getting punted is their fault, their qually time is a massive 7sec slower than comparable DR B times in the lobby. They will drive the course differently.

Edit: I am actually shocked that GTP members believe that a less skilled driver is game to be punted because they are not able to drive the course as quick as them.
I don't believe that slower drivers deserve to be punted, and I never tried to wreck that guy. I'm definitely no superstar, myself. I fully understand being frustrated with the penalty system. He didn't deserve those SR downs.
 
Yes he did over react badly, what did he expect jumping in like that fully unprepared. I checked his stats. That was his 16th sport race and very first on Mount Panorama. His best lap was a 2:18. It's matchmaking gone horribly wrong. There should be a big L next to his name in the race :)

However to maintain a 99 SR you will have to adjust as you did get quite lucky there. I easily end up with a 5 sec penalty from inexperienced drivers so it's mostly self preservation to keep more than a car length distance at all times and only move in when the risk is very low. The hardest spot is still the turn onto Conrod straight. It's the safest place to pass, yet some people are so bad at that turn that to avoid them you pretty much have to come to a complete stop ruining any chance at a better exit. Or when you do avoid them you're already passed them at the slight left after Forest's elbow, and they draft back up on the straight to try some irresponsible move.

When you start last, don't worry about the front getting away. If you want DR, qualify. Racing without qualifying is a different game and most rewarding when you come out without any contact or penalties. There are races where I never get to stretch my legs and always drive under my pace. Yet that means the whole race was fun. Trying to predict what the car in front is going to do and indeed also put a bit of pressure here and there. You don't need to be that close to put the pressure on though, most people get quite nervous when you are matching their every move, keeping the same distance no matter what, occasionally feigning a pass to move right back behind. Sometimes it feels like a fencing match except the objective here is not to touch. The longer it takes to pass a car the better it feels to pass them clean and then speed away.

Cars catching up from behind can be a problem. They can be fun to watch as well. Let them have a crack at trying to pass the erratic driver, chances are they'll either take each other out or the impatient driver will end up with a penalty and the obstacle has been cleared :mischievous:
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Near the beginning of the video, at 0:25 I hit that wall because I was trying to avoid hitting him. I've never tried to pass somebody at that spot. Going into a race, I rarely know who anybody is, or what to expect from them. I don't care about DR, but would like to have higher SR. I suppose a greater following distance would make sense.
 
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I understand what you're saying, but in the racing context, I guess I'm not as kind as you are.
...so you are prepared for the not-so-kind reactions also - I guess.

... but I'm not gonna just slow match his erratic and unpredictable pace, while the cars in front pull away, and the cars behind catch up.
You never have to. Just make a good qualy time and you are the one who can pull away. Without qualy what is your laptime, and what is it telling to the opponents at the start of the race? Let's look at it from the others' side, if we are making predictions from the laptime of the newbie.

... I stayed close behind to put the pressure on ...
You predict he is slow. You see he is not a trained racer. Why on earth you even think about any pressure, I can't see. He has his own problems to solve without you and your pressure. You are able to pass him basically anytime. Is it really a "trophy" or any kind of achievement to race a slow newcomer?

However I understand your frustration, but I don't understand the problem, which seem to me that you searched for, for yourself.

On the other hand, all this is not of my business, as because of the crappy system and its priorizing to the aggressive gamers instead of the fair racers, I stay away from PD's online races - so my opinion is not worth considered.
 
...so you are prepared for the not-so-kind reactions also
You bet. Fair is fair.
Without qualy what is your laptime
I had the Fastest Lap for that race.
Let's look at it from the others' side
I wish I had saved the replay. If the video had the perspective from my car, it would look like I was being brake-checked.
I don't understand the problem, which seem to me that you searched for, for yourself.
I didn't save the replay because the race was completely unremarkable. Nothing was out of the ordinary. The reason for my post was to illustrate what a nut that guy is. Those kind of bumps happen in every race.
 
It's the first time I comment in this forum, but I gotta say, I really don't agree with the complaints I see here about the penalty system. If anything, the system is too lenient sometimes. You can have 2 or 3 incidents in the same race and still be comfortably in S. I do agree that sometimes it can be tough in lower SR races, but once I've got to S, I didn't find it hard to stay there. The problem that I see very often is people driving in the first lap with the same lines they do in qualifying. If you do that every race you're obviously going to have trouble.

The problem is not that it is too lenient (it is) or too harsh, the problem is that it is more often punishing the wrong player instead of the aggressive driver that only knows how to stick to their qualifying lines. Tell me with a straight face that I deserve a 4 sec penalty here and red SR while the car 'passing' me gets a blue S after punting me into the wall, then using me as a cornering aid.
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I don't know what races you are in where you can have 2 or 3 incidents and still be comfortably in S... That's not my experience lately. One 4 or 5 sec penalty, entirely not your fault, is enough to get a red S. Sure you can survive a couple SR Downs, which are dished out completely upside down as well.
 
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These 2 panalties together with the other SR Downs I got from draft bumpers put me down to SR 74.

So next race I start with the SR.A crowd, still driving from the back. I try my best to avoid the slow inexperienced wobbly drivers, get bumped from behind a couple times while in traffic yet don't hit anyone myself and finish 2nd. I only gain 4 SR for my efforts to 77.

Next 2 races are even worse for matchmaking:

In the first race the car in front forces me to almost come to a stop after which I naturally get rammed from behind, 4 sec penalty for me :banghead: I'm about to rage quit yet I press on, manage to avoid everyone else for the rest of the race and finish 3rd, still lose 5 SR, down to 73

The second race (starting at 1:30) I get stuck behind another wobbly excruciatingly slow car. I can't avoid him in Forest's elbow where he's turning on his nose scraping against the wall with traffic behind me. Luckily the penalty system 'glitches' and for once I don't get a penalty for someone else's bad driving. He turns right instead of left at the end of lap 1 giving me room to continue on to 3rd place with clean race bonus! +13 SR to 86. (Max is 15, so that contact still took 2 SR yet no SR Down thus clean race bonus :))


Wow, these drivers actually drive as if they had never driven the track. Very slow us also very uncertain and unpredictable. Those who are stuck behind such drivers have already lost. Of course you can drive slowly yourself and wait for your chance. But even then you are often hit because either the front man makes a mistake, defends himself or driver rammed you from behind. You have experienced that yourself. We all started and were slow. That's why I do not blame these drivers for the situation. The matchmaking has failed here. But maybe the program should also point out such riders to practice the track or play the circuit experience before taking part in an online race.
 
I really enjoyed Race A yesterday. It is so much about holding the racing line as all cars are exactly the same. I did something I have never done before. I got a best lap time that was better than my qualifying (1:06.596) !
As a matter of fact, the time was so good (1.06.223) that it would have given me a Top 100 place of 47 :cheers:
I think it had a lot to do with drafting on the fast lap.
I ended up third as I botched the standing start :banghead:

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Wow, these drivers actually drive as if they had never driven the track. Very slow us also very uncertain and unpredictable. Those who are stuck behind such drivers have already lost. Of course you can drive slowly yourself and wait for your chance. But even then you are often hit because either the front man makes a mistake, defends himself or driver rammed you from behind. You have experienced that yourself. We all started and were slow. That's why I do not blame these drivers for the situation. The matchmaking has failed here. But maybe the program should also point out such riders to practice the track or play the circuit experience before taking part in an online race.

I've seen worse lol. One race, lap 2, driver in front of me (no one in front of him) goes straight at Hell corner...:lol:
Yes, I've done that too, when I first drove the track off-line a long time ago.

One solution would be to lock out the track until you complete the circuit experience with at least bronze. Of course it doesn't help that PD doesn't add the circuit experience for new tracks until the next patch :banghead: Catalunya day one will be fun.
 
Oh, Catalunya will be fun. The long right hander at the beginning of the lap. Then, the final chicane. Everything in between, will be standard "play at your own risk".
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I've seen worse lol. One race, lap 2, driver in front of me (no one in front of him) goes straight at Hell corner...:lol:
Yes, I've done that too, when I first drove the track off-line a long time ago.

One solution would be to lock out the track until you complete the circuit experience with at least bronze. Of course it doesn't help that PD doesn't add the circuit experience for new tracks until the next patch :banghead: Catalunya day one will be fun.

I think it was originally planned that you can only drive a route online if you have made the corresponding circuit experience. But that was unfortunately not implemented. The times are really not difficult to do there. Then the drivers would know the track at least a little bit.
 
The problem is not that it is too lenient (it is) or too harsh, the problem is that it is more often punishing the wrong player instead of the aggressive driver that only knows how to stick to their qualifying lines. Tell me with a straight face that I deserve a 4 sec penalty here and red SR while the car 'passing' me gets a blue S after punting me into the wall, then using me as a cornering aid.
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I don't know what races you are in where you can have 2 or 3 incidents and still be comfortably in S... That's not my experience lately. One 4 or 5 sec penalty, entirely not your fault, is enough to get a red S. Sure you can survive a couple SR Downs, which are dished out completely upside down as well.

Yeah, that penalty was ********. I was talking more in terms of SR points than time penalties. I think a better solution would be harsher penalties in terms of points, tighter DQ limit and possibly getting rid of time penalties for crashing. Assholes would still exist and would still ruin races, but they would be in bottom races in no time.

Time penalties will always be problematic. It's very hard to get it right and situations like yours are almost inevitable. IRacing is probably the best system out there because it's harder to get your license up if you're using people as brakes.
 
Yeah, that penalty was ********. I was talking more in terms of SR points than time penalties. I think a better solution would be harsher penalties in terms of points, tighter DQ limit and possibly getting rid of time penalties for crashing. Assholes would still exist and would still ruin races, but they would be in bottom races in no time.

Time penalties will always be problematic. It's very hard to get it right and situations like yours are almost inevitable. IRacing is probably the best system out there because it's harder to get your license up if you're using people as brakes.

Theoretically, that's all right. But for all types of punishment, the game must first determine the clearly guilty. That's exactly what GT Sport has big problems with. We have seen it in the past. When the rear driver was punished in a collision, there were many brake tests. Now usually the front driving driver is punished and immediately more is rammed. The game has no reliable algorithm to determine the fault clearly. There are only a few rudimentary queries and rules that only partially capture a situation and can easily be tricked.
A few months ago I read a guide to cheat on a Spanish page. The instructions I have read there, I recognize again and again when i watch replays with unfair drivers. If I look at the short video here then I recognize some of the tricks. For example, after each ram, the rammer briefly strips the wall. I do not think that this is coincidence....
 
He should spend more time practing than making these rediculous videos. It’s difficult to race clean with players like this.
That guy should sit his ass down and learn that track before he’s a moving blockade for every other driver
 
Just a hot disgusting mess of poop.

People just exploit the huge gaping holes in stewarding.

I am going to find a better game for online.

Offline is almost as bad on some tracks but at least it’s the same every time.

I’m upset because I slowed to pay for a mistake I made. But it did not matter somehow you just ghost and you can evaporate the pain away. Is what the racer did in front of me
 
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