"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Pigems]

I never had the problem with my DR/SR dropping too hard. Just make sure to get a good quali lap and try to avoid first corner carnages. Best would be to get a clean start/finish win. Also the higher your SR/DR the less likely it is to get killed.

I had 2 lights to flag victories last night where I didn’t touch another car the entire race, Barely gained any SR at all. I’ve got a top 60 Qually time in NA so I’m getting Pole starts, I’d have been back up to 99 two weeks ago after doing that.

 

[Yassi_99]

I had 2 lights to flag victories last night where I didn’t touch another car the entire race, Barely gained any SR at all. I’ve got a top 60 Qually time in NA so I’m getting Pole starts, I’d have been back up to 99 two weeks ago after doing that.

Which time? I'm just curious :-D

 

[Pigems]

Which time? I'm just curious :-D

It was around 7-8pm Atlantic time. Back to back wins and not even a 5 point hike in SR.

 

[Yassi_99]

It was around 7-8pm Atlantic time. Back to back wins and not even a 5 point hike in SR.

I meant the lap time but that's interesting too lmao

Edit: Yeah the time you log in and test your luck is also a huge factor. Sometimes you are just unlucky and get matched with the fastest boys/girls

 

[Pigems]

I meant the lap time but that's interesting too lmao

Ah, my bad lol. My best qually lap so far is 1:36.687, I’m sitting #63 right now in NA, bringerofrain279 is my PSN.

Maybe it’s because I go wide and take a .5s penalty on T1 every time?

 

[stpatty]

The best tyre choice on Race C is Soft/Soft, right?

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Yeah, that seems to be the best. You can no stop on hards but they aren't fast enough (about 15-20 secs slower than softs per lap).
Not sure about mediums, but the softs lasted fine on the Hyundai and it isn't great on tyres, so not sure what they are good for unless you can run 2 laps on them. Fastest guys seem to be running the Supra with softs.

I'm still working on my time as I am at 8:12 now, so need to knock 5-10 secs off really.

 

[ASH32]

I’m almost wondering now if they tinkered with the SR system on the last update, it was always easy to lose it but it seems even easier now to lose it and it’s harder to gain it back, two clean races got you from 80 to 99 a couple weeks ago but last night 2 clean races in a row gained me 3 whole SR points. I think they changed the system somehow.

If you've been mainly racing at the RBR then remember the track limits. I don't think you can get a clean race bonus running the off the track lines in T1 even with no penalties and zero contact, I have not had one yet and I've had a few unchallenged penalty free races from pole, so I'd imagine this will affect the SR system too.

 

[Philtaylor17]

Ended up in the same race B as @Philtaylor17 today. That's the first time I've recognised anyone from here

That's not to say I really saw you, what with you doing lights to flag victories while I was scrapping in the mid-pack. I felt fast enough to hold on to the lead group but kept overdriving the car and picking up silly penalties for track limit infringements. They were fast lobbies though that I didn't feel quite ready for!

Its always cool when you see someone from in a race
To be fair its tricky in the pack at rbr, couple of times i've been divebombed and ended up having to try and pass people and its harder to get into a rhythm then.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

One question re RBR did track limits change as I notice I seem to get a penalty for the run off zone at start/end of the lap but not sure if
that's delayed notification or a change in limits?

 

[nuu1212]

Can't get nowhere near 1.36 in the Huracan. What are these guys doing? Replays seem like pretty standard driving.

Trail braking seems key here.
Any hints on brake balance and ABS setting ???

 

[Pigems]

Can't get nowhere near 1.36 in the Huracan. What are these guys doing? Replays seem like pretty standard driving.

Trail braking seems key here.
Any hints on brake balance and ABS setting ???

Yeah, I couldn’t get within a second of my TT time in the Huracan and I was pushing it super hard. In the replays I’ve watched they seem to be pushing the braking points to the absolute max/limit, but other than that they don’t seem like that fast of laps really. I don’t know where the extra second comes from?

 

[Groundfish]

Man, I have to say for me this RBR track is a pestilence upon my ps4. For me the layout sucks. I suck at driving it. Curse this track.
I’ve no idea how people are getting these cars through that mutated excuse for a racetrack so quickly.
Further, there’s no way I can do Nordschleife gr3. So I am left with the track where every straight you realize you screwed up the last corner so the entire lap is a waste. There’s no way to make up time.
When this track was new, I raced some friends in a private lobby on it. I stunk then too! Whoever designed this track layout irl can take a flying leap as far as I am concerned.
Driving this track, it feels like my car is underwater it’s so dang slow. I wait what seems like an eternity for a corner only to screw it up and have to wait another eternity for the next just watching tenths slip away...
I’m horrible with this combo.

 

[ASH32]

One question re RBR did track limits change as I notice I seem to get a penalty for the run off zone at start/end of the lap but not sure if
that's delayed notification or a change in limits?

No change for me, set my fastest lap earlier still running way off track in T1. The penalties are not consistent though, you do get them occasionally for doing the same thing that usually goes unpunished. The main ones to watch are the outside between the last two turns and cutting the inside of anywhere, that's where you get penalties more often than not.

Can't get nowhere near 1.36 in the Huracan. What are these guys doing? Replays seem like pretty standard driving.

Trail braking seems key here.
Any hints on brake balance and ABS setting ???

Yeah, I couldn’t get within a second of my TT time in the Huracan and I was pushing it super hard. In the replays I’ve watched they seem to be pushing the braking points to the absolute max/limit, but other than that they don’t seem like that fast of laps really. I don’t know where the extra second comes from?

I don't know where it comes from and I can do it. When I turn the game on I usually struggle to go faster than a 1:37.0 at first but soon I'm down around the 1:36.0 mark. Going quicker than that requires hard braking from as wide as possible and then instant full throttle where possible and you can get it wrong quite easily and lose as much as half a second in no time.

With the regards to brake balance I prefer the front bias -2 because with rear bias I lose too much time sliding in the corners in the middle of the lap whereas other people make that work fine, so it's all about what works best for you. I'd suggest you try everywhere between -3 and +3, only the extremes seem to slow you down a lot.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I topped out at a 1.38 flat, how anyone does sub 1.37 is absolutely beyond me, I don't get how they do what they do, all i get is understeer and more understeer a sper usual.

 

[rono_thomas]

I topped out at a 1.38 flat, how anyone does sub 1.37 is absolutely beyond me, I don't get how they do what they do, all i get is understeer and more understeer a sper usual.

If thats happening your too quick on corner entry, be as wide as you can hit the apex and because understeer is less because you have the entry speed correct, throttle pick up is earlier, especially important at red bull because that translates all the way down the next straight in a faster top speed and therefore laptime.

 

[NevilleNobody]

If thats happening your too quick on corner entry, be as wide as you can hit the apex and because understeer is less because you have the entry speed correct, throttle pick up is earlier, especially important at red bull because that translates all the way down the next straight in a faster top speed and therefore laptime.

That all makes sense but when i do that i get absolutely mobbed, so somehow folks are entering as fast as i am but holding it all together. Likely trail braking.

 

[nuu1212]

Guess I was stuck in a dead end. Somehow got to ABS weak and balance +4, but this was just BS.
Back now to ABS=Default and balance=0 and an immediately 0.5sec faster...

 

[Groundfish]

I topped out at a 1.38 flat, how anyone does sub 1.37 is absolutely beyond me, I don't get how they do what they do, all i get is understeer and more understeer a sper usual.

You are kicking my butt by.4 so don’t feel too bad and it’s not like I’ve done just a few laps. For me it’s just a very odd track, and I can’t do anything right on it. I don’t like any corner on it.

 

[Yassi_99]

@Invisigoth

Nah bro. I'm quite an old veteran in GT. It's just that my fingers were quite shaky during my first run. After the 3rd Race C, it became much better and my head was a lot cooler. If you are running sub 8min times every little mistake can destroy your pace and flow.

 

[rono_thomas]

That all makes sense but when i do that i get absolutely mobbed, so somehow folks are entering as fast as i am but holding it all together. Likely trail braking.

Yes some trail braking is used but not a huge amount the braking zones while defending on RBR will need a different approach anyhow, most of the time the car attacking is going to be carrying the extra speed from slipstreaming but defending the inside line is really effective as they are always going to be run wide so they will move wide, when they do move wide with them to open the corner for yourself, your effectively moving their apex so their corner speed will be much slower than your potential.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

"You can't win a race at the first corner..."



...But you can do 99% of the work, I didn't expect this to work as well as it did!

 

[nuu1212]

Kicked again... WTF

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Damn Ontario emergency alert system. Big loud alarm going off on tv and cell phones, "This is a test of the Ontario alert ready system", and ofcourse I punt the car in front of me off the road. I wonder how many fender benders that alert causes on the highways...

And then it keeps going all race as I can't reach over to press exit on the remote.... fun! -14 SR. Thanks Ontario, test successful.

 

[vvise]

lmao...

 

[svenvangent]

lmao...

Olleeeeee Huracan hurricane was in a hurry to get home ,

 

[nuu1212]

Absolutely makes no sense. Turn 1 (Race B)
Go extremely wide (before and after turn) => NO PENALTY
Trying to keep it halfway decent => about 0.5 Penalty
Keeping it on the tarmac => 1 sec slower.

 

[Philtaylor17]

If it helps, track limits at turn 1, its not how wide you go, its how early you go wide ( and also if you cut the corner too much ). Nailing t1 is a big part of getting a good lap time.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Absolutely makes no sense. Turn 1 (Race B)
Go extremely wide (before and after turn) => NO PENALTY
Trying to keep it halfway decent => about 0.5 Penalty
Keeping it on the tarmac => 1 sec slower.

This. It's insane.

 

[ASH32]

You don't lose 1 second by not running wide, it's a lot but nowhere near that much.

I don't know what exactly causes a penalty though, well apart from cutting the inside with most of your car, you can get over two seconds worth of penalties for that.

There's no point in going half off the track though, just floor it through the turn and run out wide and don't lose control and you won't (most of the time) get a penalty and you'll go quicker. The fastest I've ever got to the first split is a 23.9. 24.0 or 1 is good enough in the race, if you've got clean air of course.