"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Sven Jurgens]

What I dont understand is how they get to S SR and then divebomb without penalty. A Brazillian in the last daily set would throw blocks and dives and get NO penalty at all while I get penalties for event breathing on him. Its llike the lag was helping him avoid penalty at times too.

Bingo. Any contact that happens from lag gets forgiven. If a laggy car knocks you off road it is very possible that the contact did not happen on the lagger's side.

Either he actually brakes on time yet was so close that lag propels his car into yours on your side. The lagger gets forgiven as the game can not confirm the contact on the other side.
Or he presses the gas a little which gets interpreted as going full throttle for a lot longer due to lag and you get lag bump passed.
Or lag causes the other car to go wide bumping you off road.
Or asynchronous upload/download lag makes it so his car lags on your screen while he gets correct info on his. That means when your car gets hit by his laggy car, he gets the immediate update of you getting hit by a phantom car, putting your car out of his way while his client does not register a hit. Like a magical force field extending out in front of him.

I've experienced that last case myself when my isp had trouble in the neighbourhood and my upload connection was severely compromised. Cars just magically jumped out of my way when I got close

When you are lagging yourself this can all happen as well of course, since you won't get their braking event info in time. It gets even worse when both cars are lagging.

If you have lag, don't drive close to somebody's bumper. Keep a distance in between cars at all times. Or just drive right on top of another car and let lag do the work for you :/

 

[weazelgt]

am i wrong or so many people are not playing this week on daily races?

haven't done one race this week, spending my time in lobbies

 

[O604]

Done only 2 races this week. Fuji. Both horrible. -2500 DR so far. My fault, not others. Relatively new to Gr.2.

Probably will try one later today. Mistakes I need remember. 1. Start on Racing Medium. 2. Drop to 1st gear where I'm use to trying to keep 2nd. If I remember that, I may survive.

I find the constant idle sound at zero in the Motul Autech GT-R annoying for some reason.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I wanted to try one no stop on Fuji, forgot to change the tires at the start. I suck so bad at that track I didn't make it to the finish in time anyway, best lap of 1:37. One more then to see how a no stop goes, probably worse. Driving that track in bumper cam is just awful, all asphalt everywhere, no clear sides, uphill apexes. Look where you want to go, but I can hardly spot where I want to go.

I got a few mystery SR Downs without any contact, then rammed off in lap 4 and disconnected. The game was very laggy, cars jumping around all the time. It was reporting me as 4 bars, green, didn't look like it. Screw Fuji, back to FH4.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I am finding that starting on Hard and changing to Medium at the end of lap 8 is a good strategy.

The hards are not much slower at the beginning, but they are faster on laps 5-8. Then, because you mediums are fresh, you are faster than the other cars through to the end.

 

[beegentoo]

I just got myself to set ABS to Standard and even enable TC+2 for Fuji. Driving feels better, especially turning somehow goes magically smooth (I had to shift balance from 2 to 1 forward). I did my tests in a private lobby with race settings and managed to get to a 1:34 something (for me who was running with 1:36 at best this is a success). I decided to join the 18:30 race and see what I could achieve.

Unfortunately I entered practice and after a few incomplete laps forgot to restart before the finish line. Now I‘m caught with a ridiculous 1:37 Q-Time since there was no time left for another lap.

But lucky things didn‘t turn worse: I got booted back to be Menu as race was about to start.

I guess I‘ll retry later and see if I can qualify faster. I don‘t like to start a race with a few slower drivers behind me approaching Turn No. 1

 

[JPW802]

haven't done one race this week, spending my time in lobbies

I tried... ran hot laps on Monday, but just don’t enjoy any of the track/car combos. FIA races look more interesting today at least. Then it’s probably back to MXGP PRO for me.

I’m sure I don’t understand the complexities involved at PD in setting up the dailies, but it sure feels like the job has been handed off to the new intern fresh outa school.

Maybe PD saves all the good stuff for FIAs to promote that partnership, so nobody is tempted to skip the FIA races for the dailies?

 

[sturk0167]

I’m sure I don’t understand the complexities involved at PD in setting up the dailies

Complexities? Ha ha. How bout none.

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• sturk0167
• Feb 27, 2019

 

[O604]

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I am finding that starting on Hard and changing to Medium at the end of lap 8 is a good strategy.

The hards are not much slower at the beginning, but they are faster on laps 5-8. Then, because you mediums are fresh, you are faster than the other cars through to the end.

That was my plan.

Problem was, although I knew i would be slower I tried too hard to keep up with everyone else in the first few laps and spun.

So I'm going to try a different way. Stupid-proof myself. And hope for better results.


+ Just raced. My 604th race. Started with mediums. Kept up with everyone. So of course hits from all sides. Off track. Had to pit L4 because tires were imbalanced. Had to pit twice. Finished 2nd last. The car I passed last blocked me for a lap after I came out of the pit fresh and they were sliding around. I followed for 1 lap and passed at T1, got hit twice going by.

Conclusion - I was better off driving behind everyone. I'm done for the week.

 

[GT5Power]

Complexities? Ha ha. How bout none.

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• sturk0167
• Feb 27, 2019

Hah, an RNG would be doing a far better job...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I am finding that starting on Hard and changing to Medium at the end of lap 8 is a good strategy.

The hards are not much slower at the beginning, but they are faster on laps 5-8. Then, because you mediums are fresh, you are faster than the other cars through to the end.

That worked. I did one more race to restore my SR from the disconnect. I started on hard tires, pit in 8, rest medium. I shaved 2 sec of my best lap time! To 1:35 I just can't see where I'm going in bumper cam on that track. T2 apex is already completely invisible due to the angles. Frustrating track. I did get to finish the race this time!

The disadvantage for me pitting in lap 8, impatient people behind me in lap 6, 7 and 8. Couple bumps from behind, had to go wide a few times to avoid them losing me more time putting me in last after I pitted. I managed to overtake one car with the fresher tires, finished one before last (and 2 quitters)

I heard a rumor there's another barn find nearby, got to check it out to shut up the announcer. One advantage of GTS, no annoying narrator telling you what to do all the time. Or perhaps it could help, especially in certain languages. "I heard a rumor, it might help to use your brakes before a corner" Instead of SR Down it should have some nagging voice telling you what a bad person you are. Way more effective!

 

[Voodoovaj]

This is a frustrating track. Is it me or does this track bring out the worst drivers? I have never seen so many blatant rage crashes in a week. Multiple times in a race sometimes!!

Still no win for me. I can't seem to get my pace up in the early going.

 

[Bbandicoot]

Am I the only one that likes Tokyo? Maybe I just haven’t been racing enough to be burned out on the stale repeating cycles of combinations... Anyways, got my time down to a 1:18.6. Nothing too special, but figured enough to put me near the top of some races from 1-5 am last night. No such luck as apparently there is a dedicated group of A+/S drivers who race all night long. Was fun starting around p6-10, and trying to capitalise on any mistakes in front while maintaining distance on the chasers (mix DR A-C). Had a few nice races, was leading the last one after scooting around some major carnage and got into such an easy rhythm that I relaxed and... Boom! 5 second penalty, did I really just fall asleep two turns away from the win? Ended up 3rd as I had no time to burn the penalty and those top tier drivers make up ground quickly .

I started this game in November. Played to have fun and was slowly climbing. Then I got obsessed with the SR and avoiding penalties, started driving safer and with more assists, just made me slow. Actually the more I thought about SR, the worse mine got. Didn’t race much as I was terrified of ending up with SR E in the bumper cars penalty fests.

Recently I decided to take the TCS off (Ok sometimes at 1) and just have fun again. I’m riding my line and enjoying the racing. Miraculously my SR and DR are rising again. I’m still a lowly BS but it’s much nicer to be outraced by the A+ drivers than to see them quickly fade into the distance.

TCS really is the devil (not in all cases). I’d recommend to anyone else struggling in the middle: slowly wean out the assists. You might have some absolute disaster races on the way. But it is inarguably faster without them, and I’d even argue more fun. The more control I have over my car, the better.

 

[MIE1992]

The trophies are useless.

What do you mean? That I shouldn't worry about them as much?

I'm guessing the guys with weekly DR resets probably collect a bunch of poles and wins each time as they climb back up.

What do you mean, weekly DR resets?

Git gud.

Real constructive.


Look, my point is that the trophies don't feel like a fair assessment of skill when obtaining them can vary so wildly from player-to-player, including the exploit of purposely wrecking to drop your SR.

 

[sturk0167]

What do you mean? That I shouldn't worry about them as much?

Yes. I don't know why anyone would care about them, other than using them as benchmarks for personal goals. Nothing happens when you get one.

 

[K3Tuning]

What do you mean? That I shouldn't worry about them as much?

Pretty much, only worry about them as much as you want to, Ive never cared ever what trophies anybody else has and dont think anybody cares about mine.

What do you mean, weekly DR resets?

Some folks get their DR reset so often it seems like a weekly ritual.

Real constructive.

It is tho, looking for shortcuts is all good, end of day that answers all questions.

Look, my point is that the trophies don't feel like a fair assessment of skill when obtaining them can vary so wildly from player-to-player, including the exploit of purposely wrecking to drop your SR.

No they are certainly not a reflection of Skill ASIDE from DR somewhat. DR is not easily fleeced and the higher up you go the less folks there are to take DR from so them A+ and S DR guys are fast and for the most part clean but many are just very good at being ckean dirty. Where they know how to give dirt without taking penalties or just fast enough the rare time somebody comes close they can knock em out then fleece SR back the next race.

 

[eltorrente]

Am I the only one that likes Tokyo?

Yes.

TCS really is the devil (not in all cases). I’d recommend to anyone else struggling in the middle: slowly wean out the assists. You might have some absolute disaster races on the way. But it is inarguably faster without them, and I’d even argue more fun. The more control I have over my car, the better.

Yeah, I agree. I've been weaning myself off TCS also. For GR3 cars, I qualify and drive for fun with TCS1 and in races I use TCS2 for insurance. I always drive as if TCS is off, though - and that makes it much better, since it only activates when I get overzealous. Eventually I hope to use TCS off.

 

[K3Tuning]

Dirty Driver Self Imposed Justice

 

[Tea_Leaves]

Am I the only one that likes Tokyo?

I really like the track and enjoyed all previous events on the circuit in the slower cars (Beetle, Mini etc.) and it was some of the most fun I had playing this game. GR4 is just a poor combination which leads to a game of pinball with lots of red creating a bloodbath if my previous races were to go by. I feel the only way you survive is starting pole/near the front and to not get caught in the bedlam happening behind.

 

[K3Tuning]

Agreed its such a poor combination, better suited to slow cars but for me just too bland, spend nuff time on highways IRL as it is

I got me a real Hater lol this guy was a Holy Crap Dirt bag from Gr4 at Fugi.

This guy repeatedly hitting me and everybody else too just seemed like I gave him a hard time cuz his kamikaze runs missed or didnt throw me off enough he had to come at me for half the race.

Some people are scum

 

[Dogwolf77]

Dirty Driver Self Imposed Justice

Great stuff ! I like seeing this kind of action.

 

[Rexracer702]

I really like the track and enjoyed all previous events on the circuit in the slower cars (Beetle, Mini etc.) and it was some of the most fun I had playing this game. GR4 is just a poor combination which leads to a game of pinball with lots of red creating a bloodbath if my previous races were to go by. I feel the only way you survive is starting pole/near the front and to not get caught in the bedlam happening behind.

I enjoy, and usually do well at the Tokyo tracks. I've been running from the back so far. Best finish is 5th. I think I can podium with a semi clean group. My last race tonight I started last (P13) and finished 5th, but I waste a lot of time trying to get by people. Only had 2 seconds of penalties for getting slammed into a wall. The key seems to be keeping distance and getting a good drive. Most passes are either inside with a bit of rubbing going in (everyone tries to slam you into the wall), or when I see someone scrape the wall coming out I'll fake inside, then go outside and slide between them and the wall. The 4C is amazing here. I'll have to qualify this weekend and see what I can put down, and try for a win or 2. Best race lap was a mid 19.

 

[DesertPenguin]

If the Alfa is good here then the Toyota can probably do well too. One thing I noticed from Dragon Trail is that the 86 Gr. 4 is able to brake slightly later than most other cars and it payed off going into Turn 1 and then turn before the bus stop chicane.

 

[K3Tuning]

If the Alfa is good here then the Toyota can probably do well too. One thing I noticed from Dragon Trail is that the 86 Gr. 4 is able to brake slightly later than most other cars and it payed off going into Turn 1 and then turn before the bus stop chicane.

Same with the Lambo, it was able to brake far far later than every other car (although did not see many 86 to notice it) I noticed it very much with the Lambo.

We call that corner

Essar Drop

 

[TTM]

I’ve just pulled of a 32.630 at BB raceway qualifying.
Glad to be in the top 10 board in my region again. Feels good.
Sure wish I had that plus. I’d be doing massive damage.

 

[Rexracer702]

If the Alfa is good here then the Toyota can probably do well too. One thing I noticed from Dragon Trail is that the 86 Gr. 4 is able to brake slightly later than most other cars and it payed off going into Turn 1 and then turn before the bus stop chicane.

Maybe I'll try some other cars when I start running Q laps, but I don't think anything else will come close. Braking isn't really an issue. There are only 5 places where I touch the brakes, and total time on the brakes, per lap, is probably only 1-2 seconds. It's all corner speed and momentum. Some of the FF cars may do well. I did follow one in a race and it has good corner speed, but I closed right up in the esses after the second tunnel, so transitions may be slower.

 

[05XR8]

Crazy. All week, I've done two Race A and two Race B. and no Gr.2(Mazda don't have a GT500 car). Not missing it at all this week. Feel like just doing the FIA races(enjoyed them, actually).

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Pretty bummed out. I went into a Daily B race right now and came across Lester and Kid.
... I get disconnected before the loading was completed.

 

[drummingcat]

Had one race last night, got my Race A quali down to a low 33.2, optimal 33.0, decided to race on TC1, started on pole............ finished entirely predictably............ last! I just cant control that car on such low TC when there are others around.

I dont even know why I tried, I said in the lobby before the race that I was going to crash, so just wait for it to happen the first 3 laps scampering away from the field were fun though but then one slight error in the final turn costs me 3 seconds and suddenly, cars around me, bumping, then its wall in T1 as soon as I apply power !

Gave up on that, bought an NSX and tried some laps of Fuji. My first experience of GP2 and I have to admit the traction control settings on the game are annoying me a little. Each car seems to have a cut off between TCS completely ruining your lap-time or spinning almost every-time the throttle is applied, there seems to be no happy medium, Race A for example, TC2, can do whatever you want throttle wise, its not spinning but it takes 6 tenths off you in one corner regardless of how gently you reapply the throttle, TC1, on the other hand for me is racing on ice. Fuji in the NSX either doing donuts just from looking at the throttle on 1, or sitting there for what feels like hours whilst waiting for power on 2. It feels to me, like off and on. Not 1 and 2 on a scale to 5.

I did a 1.32 after about 6 laps of trying, watched a 1.28 and there is no way they are driving that without CSA surely.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Had one race last night, got my Race A quali down to a low 33.2, optimal 33.0, decided to race on TC1, started on pole............ finished entirely predictably............ last! I just cant control that car on such low TC when there are others around.

I dont even know why I tried, I said in the lobby before the race that I was going to crash, so just wait for it to happen the first 3 laps scampering away from the field were fun though but then one slight error in the final turn costs me 3 seconds and suddenly, cars around me, bumping, then its wall in T1 as soon as I apply power !

Gave up on that, bought an NSX and tried some laps of Fuji. My first experience of GP2 and I have to admit the traction control settings on the game are annoying me a little. Each car seems to have a cut off between TCS completely ruining your lap-time or spinning almost every-time the throttle is applied, there seems to be no happy medium, Race A for example, TC2, can do whatever you want throttle wise, its not spinning but it takes 6 tenths off you in one corner regardless of how gently you reapply the throttle, TC1, on the other hand for me is racing on ice. Fuji in the NSX either doing donuts just from looking at the throttle on 1, or sitting there for what feels like hours whilst waiting for power on 2. It feels to me, like off and on. Not 1 and 2 on a scale to 5.

I did a 1.32 after about 6 laps of trying, watched a 1.28 and there is no way they are driving that without CSA surely.

I'm already nervous enough trying to get a good lap for race A; I don't want to imagine how much more nervous I'd be for the actual race, knowing that upsetting the car's balance once can end the race for me.

... I mean, there is race B, which I'm guessing is a SR wreckfest.

For race C, I have a 1:30.6 with the GT-R. I'm not comfortable with Gr. 2 cars, and it took me countless tries to get the time below 1:31. Definitely not doing a race with Race C... which is why I did Race B.

Lap 1 on race B (started at pole), I get sandwiched between the wall and another player on the turn leading to the back "straight." Player gets 3 second penalty, I'm now in 4th. Just after the last turn, I'm about to pass someone when they bump the wall for taking the turn too fast and rebound into me, and I hit the wall. Down to 5th, I go. I start to push it and eventually catch up to 2nd and 1st. I pass 2nd, and 1st place still has the 3 second penalty. I'm right behind first, and they start to burn the penalty at the very end, and I pass them to reclaim 1st and take home the win.

And now I remember why I really don't like racing in narrow tracks.