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Lost Sheltie
Yeah it is easily possible to no-stop the Porsche 919. I will get round to the Audi R18, but I enjoy racing against people who are in better cars. Gives me a real sense of achievement when I can race them (and sometimes beat them). I will try the older Toyota as well, so thanks for the suggestion :)
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And vice versa for 919H :) Gonna try it later at home.
 
Pedinhuh
The key to win on Suzuka is smoothness while cornering, the consecutive bends at the beginning will be dictating your pace and time for the reminder of the lap, so you must nail them.

The Mini Cooper doesn't need TCS, so you can just disable it and race just as fine if not better, during cornering you will be keeping your revs high while accelerating if you're not careful and smooth to with your steering inputs, which brings to my next hint:

Use cockpit camera if you haven't already, reason for this is that with cockpit camera you will be seeing your steering inputs better by watching the steering wheel, turn on the radar and use it to check your surroundings(I prefer to just look around using the camera, but the radar is easier).

Set ABS to default because the car has some shady brakes in general(it's a old car after all) and you will need them for the first corner at least.
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Thank you for you reply! Try it without TCS and strong ABS, I always use only bumper cam, but try cockpit. I always use radar.

And I also notice it all about start and position after first turn.

What about grid start? Handbrake and full throttle, release handbrake on signal?
 
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I read a lot about ABS here. Question: Is it a gain to drive with that? I drive without aids, only tcs when needed. I didn't wanna switch one on because i'm very sensitive to car changes and i could start to doubt.
 
Winnie847
Holy crap dude! 17:19 was still the best I’d seen before this post. I’m gonna have to give the Tomohawk a try.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
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Tomahawk is a really good car, but if you start mid pack with it you might struggle since all the hybrid keep overtaking at the start and on corner exits. Overall I think it's probably 5 seconds faster over the race than the R18
 
First race up for the evening, Race B. I thought I'd give the RCZ a go, because I've never raced with it. I managed to improve upon my previous qualifying time, so I was pretty pleased. I was drek hot getting around the track, really flying! Yeh, and monkeys might fly outta my butt :p. For all my efforts, I qualified P13....../14 :crazy:. There was 3 of us DR/Ds, the rest of the grid was DR/C :yuck:.

The race gets started and it's some time before auto drive releases the hounds. I think it was just before the final corner. We scream off towards T1 and the guy behind me decided he was a missile. Nearly knocked me off the track. From there on there was always a car right on my tail. I was struggling a bit with the handling. Just couldn't get it to dance like it was during qualifying. When I planted it, instead of snaping the rear around I was more prone to understeer.

Went a bit wide on one of the corners, so I let the guy behind me through, and the guy behind him was going to try forcing his way through. I closed the door on him getting into position for the next corner. Got to the chicane on the third lap, I braked lateish, but still had an Evo try to take me out. My travel though the chicane was messy as I was sliding from the impact. Kept my position and he dropped about 8s behind. In the end I finished P8. My door number suggested the game expected me to finish 1 position *below* last place :lol:.

SR still 99, DR went up 20.
 
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I read a lot about ABS here. Question: Is it a gain to drive with that?
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It's not just a gain, it's a MUST if you want to be safe, consistent and fast. ABS weak is the bare minimum, and even then you're just giving yourself more front tyre wear and worse corner entry than Default. I try to avoid using assists if possible, but ABS Default is the exception as it's hard to get very far in Sport Mode without it.
 
4 podiums but no win in Race b last night. If you guys haven't tried the Toyota it's worth a whirl, dropped half a second off my best time with it right away though i struggled to race with it as it's a bit twitchy. But it's really fast.

Beginning to hit my ceiling, in races with a lot of S and B drivers, at 26,000 DR points and starting to hit my cap, just cannot nab wins.
 
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Final race for the night and it's the big track. Took the '91 Mazda for a burl and managed to beat my Jag quali. Woot! That got me P8/15 on a mixed grid of DR/B, C and D.

Let slip the dogs of war! Love the banshee wail of that engine ready to tear itself apart at any moment. I got lucky at the first chicane that no one rammed me. I was passed entering Mulsanne, but that didn't last long ;). The Group C is a missile on the straits. I even made it through both chicanes ahead. Then I discovered the handling during the race differs greatly from qualifying. I braked for Virage where I had been, and the rears locked and into the sand I go... down to P15 because it wouldn't let me work my way out of the sand and decided to re-spawn me.... a very long time later :odd:. Next lap I do the same thing :banghead:. I pitted lap 3 for tires and a splash of fuel and came out P13. I worked my way up to P10, but was crash passed just before the Porsche curves. I finished P11.

SR down a point, DR down 250. Puts me 230 down from where I finished last night. Another day above DR 1 :crazy:.
 
Invisigoth
Then I discovered the handling during the race differs greatly from qualifying.
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That is because of tyre wear that it is enabled in races. With every minute the handling changes a little bit. Unfortunate we can't check during the game the temperatures etc. But I think they are somehow dynamic.
 
JayOTT
ABS weak is the bare minimum, and even then you're just giving yourself more front tyre wear and worse corner entry than Default. I try to avoid using assists if possible, but ABS Default is the exception as it's hard to get very far in Sport Mode without it.
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I find that ABS Weak gives me a bit more control in trailbraking and braking later, while getting the nose turning while the weight is in front and rolling off the brakes during turn-in. I’m on a wheel and pedals, though. Overall, ABS simulation in GT Sport feels a bit artificial, like some kinda magic stability control that keeps the car straight no matter how hard you mash the brakes.
 
I'm all for exploring track limits, but the cuts at Le Man are crazy. Are people racing these lines?

I'm sticking with my clean qually time and see where that gets me later. Didn't get a chance to race last night.
 
mthomas_95
Might be slower on one lap pace than Audi and Porsche but it needs less fuel saving to make the 5 laps
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I've now read the previous page and seen the various cars being discussed. Fuel wasn't what I was even wondering about, are the tyres still that good? I pitted on lap 3 in a 787B and on lap 5 1st managed to pull about three seconds ahead of me, and I didn't put in a slow lap.
 
Struggling at Le Mans, I’m just not fast there, I’m being beaten by lots of players with lesser DR so more practice required to be competitive this week.
 
Lost Sheltie
My Review of Group 1 cars so far:
McLaren VGT - Good car but too thirsty for this race - would struggle to no stop in it
Toyota TS050 - Solid, but doesn't have very good brakes (good fuel economy though, don't have to even think about fuel with this car)
Porsche 919 - Great Acceleration, decent fuel - Solid overall car
Dodge Tomahawk - Good fuel, top speed and seems to corner well (poor acceleration compared to the hybrids) - had a good race long battle against a guy in Nissan R92, which he won :(
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Hey there mate. I was trying out the R92. Its a fuel guzzler, but with a bit of imagination (read shortshifting and using map 4 after 300km/h and during the last half of the track) it wasn't that bad. It was a pleasure to race you. good clean fun. I was on your previous race as well, racing an LM55. Its a solid option due to 8 gears and awd. you lose a bit on corner exit accel compared to the hybrids, bu catch up once you hit around 270 Km/h
 
Dear Diary,

This week, I've decided to campaign the AMG GT3 on Nurburgring GP. I hear it's almost a 911 RSR one-make race out there, so I'll try to be a bit different. After running the 911 on Suzuka last week, I'd gotten used to the linearity and smoothness the it requires to get the best out of it. By comparison, the AMG is a lot more chuckable and more forgiving over curbs, which I'll need to be quick on Nurburgring GP. The AMG's relatively long wheelbase seem to contribute to its stability, and the turbo V8 is good for decent poke on the straights.

As usual, I get used to the car/track combo in VR time trial mode first, getting a feel for the track and sussing out braking points. I've been getting used to not having the braking cone markers, but I need some sighting laps to see how far I can push the late braking. I'm getting better and better at trail braking, and it's helping me find a few tenths here and there. I'm finding more grip on turn-in, despite braking later and deeper. ABS Weak helps with a little more feel. My racing lines are also improving, and I'm trying to take the widest lines possible.

I find that the most time is gained and lost in Turns 1-4. I've seen some questionable alien replays which really abuse track limits between T2-3, but I opt to keep it on the tarmac. I'm trying out a wider line on T4, exiting far to the left, just nearly missing the grass. It's good for a couple of tenths! In VR mode, I finish my sighting laps and end up with 2:01.

Right, back to Pancake mode and into Sport Mode qualifying. It takes a while to readjust to the lack of depth on the flat screen, but after about 20 laps I manage to set a 1:59.7. Not great, relatively speaking, but my personal best! Maybe a couple more days of qualifying practice, and I can knock another half a second off. I for one, am appreciating the weekly format for Daily Races. It gives time-poor folks like me a chance to really dig in to a car/track combo, and I love the feeling of progress, improving by a few tenths every couple of days, before getting into races on the weekend.

*Yawn*...I'm pretty pleased with tonight's progress. Back to the trailer. Calling it a night.

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GarikFirst
Thank you for you reply! Try it without TCS and strong ABS, I always use only bumper cam, but try cockpit. I always use radar.

And I also notice it all about start and position after first turn.

What about grid start? Handbrake and full throttle, release handbrake on signal?
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Missed this earlier - the Mini race is all about momentum. You can maintain 70mph through the S bends if you get the line right. It's a bit strange in acceleration round bends because it's a FWD car, but if you do the race often enough you get into a rhythm.
 
craig1992cs
even more amazing are those track limits! They should have left them extra harsh like the last time it was up for Gr.1. i wondered why my quali time seemed so far behind everyone compared to last time
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Wasn't even harsh except for the exit of the 2 Mulsanne chicanes, the kink into Indy and exit of Corvette. Playerbase wanted them eased because 99% can't drive Gr1 at all, so they eased them :lol:
 
mthomas_95
Wasn't even harsh except for the exit of the 2 Mulsanne chicanes, the kink into Indy and exit of Corvette. Playerbase wanted them eased because 99% can't drive Gr1 at all, so they eased them :lol:
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The old track limits were way better but the severity of the penalties was stupid. I remember slightly cutting the ford chicane was a 17 second penalty.
 
I have no idea what the corners at Le Mans are called but after the Mulsanne hairpin (well, I know that one), after the straight that comes there, the right-hand kink before the slow 90 degree left is a joke. You look at the kerb funny and it gives you a penalty. It seems even more ridiculous when you see videos like the above where some corners you can cut completely with nothing.
 
stpatty
Missed this earlier - the Mini race is all about momentum. You can maintain 70mph through the S bends if you get the line right. It's a bit strange in acceleration round bends because it's a FWD car, but if you do the race often enough you get into a rhythm.
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I use the same car to race, for the reasons you state, great over kerbs and good exits. It's my fastest race car, i qualify faster with the Toyota and the lexus and even the jag but not by much and in the race the predictability of the merc allows me to race, the others are too twitchy.

Cannot make the porsche work at the 'ring, way too nervous and spins too easily.
 
NevilleNobody
I use the same car to race, for the reasons you state, great over kerbs and good exits. It's my fastest race car, i qualify faster with the Toyota and the lexus and even the jag but not by much and in the race the predictability of the merc allows me to race, the others are too twitchy.

Cannot make the porsche work at the 'ring, way too nervous and spins too easily.
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I don't think an original Mini would fare well in a Gr.3 race, sadly.
 
I drove the 787B in Race C yesterday. Big mistake.:lol: I was really struggling to keep my fuel usage down and I was nowhere. Then again an incident coming into Indianapolis didn't help my cause. I only finished 8th after starting 3rd on the grid. Chose the 908 for the next race, and the fuel was easier to manage. Came 5th in that one after getting pushed off at Mulsanne Corner.
 
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