"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Leftcurl]

"I'll race when I get into the 46 range."

OK . . Guess I'm racing.



I'll try it in the AMG, and see how I get on. I've generally found very late/early (01:30/02:00) races to be fairly clean. Let's hope that continues this week.

i've not done a single lap of Barthelona yet... but i did watch Dave Perel's video yesterday.. have you seen it? He highly recommends the 911 for racing round there. I'll try and get on tonight, but this track for me is still a mystery, lots to learn

 

[cowboyjon]

Had a brief but brutal night.

This is the trouble with being an old slow, untalented dude with little time on your hands to git gud.

On the other hand this is the bonus of having the races being set for the entire week - gives plonkers like me seven days to learn the track.

Unfortunately Catalunya is thoroughly kicking my ass and has promised to do so for the foreseeable future, meaning attaining the warmth of mediocrity is but a pipe dream this week

 

[RacingGrandpa]

With same buttons you use to adjust TCS. I have T300RS and use the arrow pad to jump between hud screens (Map, Radar, TCS, Times and BB)
Left right arrows change screen and up/down works inside of that screen - adjusts the values.

If you use pad, check the settings where these functions are mapped.

Directional pad, sideways to go between settings, up and down to adjust.

Edit: yesterday's races was a mix for me. Ran the Mégane Trophy in race B, bettered my Q time to 1:54:6xx and it gave me p2 in One race where me and P2 pulled away. Then I missed my braking point before the hairpin and visited the sand box. Returned as p11, worked me up to p5 and Still got Dr+. I lost 8 SR points in the 6 races, gained 3000 Dr points.
Once I got in lobbies with guys going 2 seconds faster than me I called it a night.

 

[MaxAttack]

A quick race A to start the day's gaming.

With ten minutes to warm up and work on improving my 1.04.9, I put in consistent 1.05.1-.2s for 10 laps straight, whilst toying with the brake balance. With it set at 2 to the rear, and with 10 seconds until matching, I finally found some pace and improved by three tenths - 1.04.676. This put me 7th on a grid ranging from A to D drivers, behind a Belgian named Engelbert (what a name). By the first S, a Frenchman had gone off and so I had 6th and some DR gain in hand. The leaders were disappearing so I focused on having a nice respectful battle with the Belgian. I got him on the final turn on lap 2, and lead for the lap until he took me clean as I went a little too much on the brakes through t1. Ah well, I can live with it. Had a nice 3s gap behind me so no pressure, bring it home nice and easy for 6th place. I got an odd SR down at one point while I was leading Engelbert through the esses, I touched a bit too much grass and dropped it into third with a little lift to keep the car settled. The Belgian was close behind and I'm certain he didn't hit me - I got the CRB - but got an SR down arrow. Weird, but insignificant.

What is significant is the DR gain - I went up one position and got nearly 2000 points, from 9991 to 11730, I presume this is a bump for passing the threshold back into DR B? Either way, it's nice to be back where I feel my proper rank is after a couple of weeks of struggles.

Tempted to take some runs at race B now, but I think I'll do a fair amount of car testing before I jump in there.

The Lich King of B rank is back on his frozen throne. Abandon hope all ye who enter here, you shall not pass.

 

[Trone_Colby]

I played race c twice last night with the Porsche.

The first race I started at ten. I put my fuel on 2 and took an easy on gas. I was doing well with it and got to 7th. Half a race to go, I decided to put the fuel on 1 and try to power it....it wasn’t happening especially since my tires were bad. I wiped out here and there. I finished 9th.

Second race was better. I started 11th. Fuel at 2 again and decided to stay there. I was taking it easy and go up to 7th due to people serving penalties. P6 was a good battle although his tires were going bad. I kept braking a bit early to avoid hitting him. People ahead of us went into the pits...to my surprise at least. The guy I was battling went up to 2nd and I went to 3rd.

P1 wiped out before the final chicane and had to reset, pushing us up to 1st and 2nd (me).

Last lap was a good battle. His tires were really bad but manages to hold it and I can’t pass him. S3 is where the battle got real for a bit. I was gaining on him. The turn before the chicane, he went wide and I tightened up on the inside. We were side by side before the chicane. He was ahead on the inside so I had no choice but to brake early and go wide without contact. He slipped away and got the win. I got 2nd. It was a good race. My heart was pounding lol.

Here’s the video of that race:

 

[watto79]

What is significant is the DR gain - I went up one position and got nearly 2000 points, from 9991 to 11730, I presume this is a bump for passing the threshold back into DR B? Either way, it's nice to be back where I feel my proper rank is after a couple of weeks of struggles.

Yes, when your DR rank is promoted you get a bonus 1500 DR. The same happens when you get demoted a rank, with an extra 1500 DR being taken away from you. Presumably this is to prevent people from bouncing between ranks too much.

It gives you a nice cushion to solidify your new rank 👍

 

[MaxAttack]

Yes, when your DR rank is promoted you get a bonus 1500 DR. The same happens when you get demoted a rank, with an extra 1500 DR being taken away from you. Presumably this is to prevent people from bouncing between ranks too much.

It gives you a nice cushion to solidify your new rank 👍

If you peep my stats you'll see my previous forays into B rank weren't very long lived, though I think I'm more consistent, a little faster, and a bit better at qualifying now, so my goal is to try and make it stick this time and see if I can hit a new high, for which I'll need to break 14K.

Good races this week, so I'm going to be testing around Autopolis and Barcelona - if I don't think I can extract a decent performance at either, I will obsessively time trial race A until I've put in the best lap I can and go from there. Historically, road cars + low power stuff where it's more plant the foot and keep on the fast line has suited me better! Trying to be tactical about where and when to race.

I mean, it SEEMS like a good plan...

 

[Saipra]

If you peep my stats you'll see my previous forays into B rank weren't very long lived, though I think I'm more consistent, a little faster, and a bit better at qualifying now, so my goal is to try and make it stick this time and see if I can hit a new high, for which I'll need to break 14K.

Good races this week, so I'm going to be testing around Autopolis and Barcelona - if I don't think I can extract a decent performance at either, I will obsessively time trial race A until I've put in the best lap I can and go from there. Historically, road cars + low power stuff where it's more plant the foot and keep on the fast line has suited me better! Trying to be tactical about where and when to race.

I mean, it SEEMS like a good plan...

Me too! I love racing road cars! And racing with GR4 cars is a very borderline moment for me now, but I think it is a good experience

 

[JoeyLeonine]

I think I enjoy Gr.4 more than Gr.3 these days if I'm honest. Completely swayed by recent performances/experiences, of course!

Essentially they're just highly tuned road cars with better stopping and cornering ability and bit of extra body work for good measure. Fun to make liveries for.

Plus you get the bonus of it having totally bonkers regulations that mean your Renault Meganes are often faster than your Lamborghini Hurracans and your Ferrari 458s... I mean, in what world?!!

I used to have a Megane, I'm still undecided about which dream is more or less likely - it ever going as fast as a Lambo/Ferrari, or me ever owning one.

 

[MaxAttack]

I think I enjoy Gr.4 more than Gr.3 these days if I'm honest. Completely swayed by recent performances/experiences, of course!

Essentially they're just highly tuned road cars with better stopping and cornering ability and bit of extra body work for good measure. Fun to make liveries for.

Plus you get the bonus of it having totally bonkers regulations that mean your Renault Meganes are often faster than your Lamborghini Hurracans and your Ferrari 458s... I mean, in what world?!!

I used to have a Megane, I'm still undecided about which dream is more or less likely - it ever going as fast as a Lambo/Ferrari, or me ever owning one.

Renault has a pretty good history of making mad, mid engined box-of-hornets death machines with some impressive performance. They - Renault 5 Maxi Turbo especially - are the only French cars I'd be seen dead driving. They also had turbocharging down long before any glitzy Italian brand.

 

[HaydenMk4]

Had some bad experience in Race C yesterday. Started 9th, was fighting hard at the beginning of the race and wasted a lot of fuel, but managed to get ahead to P7.

People started to pit around lap 6, but my strategy is a no-stopper and lots of saving at the end, I end up being 4th. For awhile I was kind of lonely with a big gap ahead and behind, but by the time I needed to fuel-save hard, the pack had caught with me.

Fast forward to the last lap, i'm defending against the guy on full power and relatively fresh tires, trying to hold him until the finish-line. Long story short he just rams me out of the hairpin, frustrated by me holding him up. Passed by the pack, I drop back to P9 and get 3 second penalty on top. Finished that way and turned off my PS4 for the day.

I get that it's frustrating to follow somebody slower than you, but if you have the power and grip advantage - do the pass properly. Not sure I'm going back to race C this week.

 

[pivo]

So, last night's racing was more eventful than the one before.

Qualy session best was 0.002s above yesterday's. Optimal just 0.1s lower, so let's race.

First race with a full B/S grid, started P2, had to resist some intense pressure. I was in the Alfa and a Cayman was only 0.2s behind before T1! Managed to defend the position and gained some room to breathe in the slower part of the circuit. Guy that started at pole was about 1s/lap quicker, but in lap 3 he suddently missed a corner! My theory is that his controller died. Anyways, not gonna complain, first victory of the week, hooray!

Race 2, started P10 in a grid with some A, A+ and S guys up front. Back half was Bs, so I wanted to try my best. Again lost some time already at the start, had to give up a position. Approached a big pack in the middle sector, did my best to avoid the chaos up front, but a sudden tackle from the back made me swing out of control and into the sand. No penalties for the bumper, oh well. Now dead last at 16th, used the next 3 laps to pass by people that had penalties and missed their corners, finished P11. Called a night.

 

[pivo]

So, I've decided to check quickly this morning before work: we have new time trials today!

1) Mazda Roadster Racing Car at Suzuka east. I love the little thing, but absolutely hate that BoP, it takes the fun completely out of it. Besides, gimping a car for a one-make event seems... silly.

2) Gr.3 (any!) at Interlagos. I'm really looking forward to see if tuning will change the BoP meta in this event. Does anyone know how were the rankings last time we had this track/class combo?

Also, you may ask: what about last week's event? I couldn't see anything about it in-game. No prize, no final results displayed, no nothing. Very disappointing.

 

[nowcontrol]

So, I've decided to check quickly this morning before work: we have new time trials today!

We already have a separate thread for that info and discussion .

 

[golfer07840]

As far as I'm aware, it's considered nerfed because it annihilates its tyres. The car has a tendency to step out at the rear ever so slightly and slide around corners, and this makes it very fast if controlled properly but munches up the rears something fierce.

The R8 used to be a great qualifying car and a great race car, but now it's not so great a pick for races with tyre wear. Hope that makes sense for ya.

I consider it 'nerfed' because one of the great attributes of the R8 LMS is the powerful V10 engine. With the BoP and PD reducing its power to like 84%, it's basically taken away that advantage. Now, perhaps, I'm looking at this incorrectly?

I think I enjoy Gr.4 more than Gr.3 these days if I'm honest. Completely swayed by recent performances/experiences, of course!

Essentially they're just highly tuned road cars with better stopping and cornering ability and bit of extra body work for good measure. Fun to make liveries for.

Plus you get the bonus of it having totally bonkers regulations that mean your Renault Meganes are often faster than your Lamborghini Hurracans and your Ferrari 458s... I mean, in what world?!!

I used to have a Megane, I'm still undecided about which dream is more or less likely - it ever going as fast as a Lambo/Ferrari, or me ever owning one.

1. This is why I love racing the Porsche GT3RS (N500) vs Group 4 cars in custom races. It's very competitive and you get a really big payout if you win.

2. I've always rolled my eyes at the idea that the Meganes are faster than Ferrari or the Lambos. With that said, I believe the Lambo is a 'made up' car I thought I read on this forum somewhere, last year sometime, that the GR4 Huracan doesn't really exist.

On the Group 4 note, I wasn't sure about Autopolis, in general, as a track. But I have to say, after racing there last night, the track has really grown on me.

Race C at Barcelona? Still not sold. That last chicane just feels... well.. stupid.

 

[MaxAttack]

Ahhh man, a race B utterly ruined by the penalty system.

Megane Trophy, QT 1.54.667 (rear brake bias 2 gained me a second, worth playing with) the grid was mostly the same car as me, an Alfa on pole. I started 6th.

Someone drove straight off the track after T1, so I'm running in 5th with a Frenchman ahead of me. Lap 2 I tried to put a move on him through hairpin 1 but caught his door so I backed off. Through lap 3 some guys bottled it so the Frenchman and I were running 3rd and 4th. Coming through the final turn I noticed he was way out wide and I got a perfect run. He went off wide to the grass on the right and completely lost control of his car - totally unforced error, he had acres of space ahead and behind. I moved over to the left hand side early because I quite rightly wasn't going to count on him making a safe re-entry.

He didn't even try. Kicking the rear to the left as he stomped the power, he collected me and smashed me into the pit wall, utterly ruining my race. Fair cop I thought, wrong place wrong time, and then...

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Sorry for the pic spam and awful quality, but I had to show this one and I'm not sure I can do teh youtubz on this tablet (no proper computer rn). How the heck do you figure that one? I don't think he even went off track after hitting me, but I guess if someone can't control their car and you just happen to be there when they wildly swing back onto the straight, you're in the wrong... Yeahhh, alright.

Thankfully I kept my cool and managed to get from 9th back to 7th through the last lap. I dreaded a DR drop but seem to have gained a couple of hundred, but I lost 9SR(!) for being smashed off track and presumably for the bit of rubbing early on.

C'mon, man... So unfair.

EDIT: He got no penalty and finished 6th or 5th.

 

[breeminator]

As Race A qualifying seems to be great for K' Speed Score, I put some laps in on my other two accounts. Managed a best of 1:04.049, just ahead of Mistah and Sturk, but, as usual, not quite up with Pigems. The game taunted me with a "yeah, right, like you could ever actually do that" a.k.a. "optimal" time of 1:03.88, but I'm not going to even try to keep lapping in the hope of pulling that off.

 

[pivo]

We already have a separate thread for that info and discussion .

Thanks, and sorry for any confusion!

 

[The_Tullster]

Mixed night, 2 races on B. Switched from RC F to 'Stang and gained about 1.5 on Q time (down to 1:54.358).

First race, started 10, drove horribly (sorry to other drivers), bumped several times (almost entirely my sloppy driving) and got a clean race bonus???
Second race, started 6, finished 3, one SR penalty (and I deserved it) but otherwise clean, quite enjoyable.
Overall, about 500 up on DR, but still feels like I'm barely clinging to DR B rating.

If I ever work out a reliable way to turn in to T1 on autopolis, there's another three tenths available right there.

 

[golfer07840]

Mixed night, 2 races on B. Switched from RC F to 'Stang and gained about 1.5 on Q time (down to 1:54.358).

First race, started 10, drove horribly (sorry to other drivers), bumped several times (almost entirely my sloppy driving) and got a clean race bonus???
Second race, started 6, finished 3, one SR penalty (and I deserved it) but otherwise clean, quite enjoyable.
Overall, about 500 up on DR, but still feels like I'm barely clinging to DR B rating.

If I ever work out a reliable way to turn in to T1 on autopolis, there's another three tenths available right there.

I found (thanks to @Mistah_MCA for this tip) that if you downshift prior to breaking, it makes that turn in much much easier.

 

[JoeyLeonine]

Ahhh man, a race B utterly ruined by the penalty system.

Megane Trophy, QT 1.54.667 (rear brake bias 2 gained me a second, worth playing with) the grid was mostly the same car as me, an Alfa on pole. I started 6th.

Someone drove straight off the track after T1, so I'm running in 5th with a Frenchman ahead of me. Lap 2 I tried to put a move on him through hairpin 1 but caught his door so I backed off. Through lap 3 some guys bottled it so the Frenchman and I were running 3rd and 4th. Coming through the final turn I noticed he was way out wide and I got a perfect run. He went off wide to the grass on the right and completely lost control of his car - totally unforced error, he had acres of space ahead and behind. I moved over to the left hand side early because I quite rightly wasn't going to count on him making a safe re-entry.

He didn't even try. Kicking the rear to the left as he stomped the power, he collected me and smashed me into the pit wall, utterly ruining my race. Fair cop I thought, wrong place wrong time, and then...

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Sorry for the pic spam and awful quality, but I had to show this one and I'm not sure I can do teh youtubz on this tablet (no proper computer rn). How the heck do you figure that one? I don't think he even went off track after hitting me, but I guess if someone can't control their car and you just happen to be there when they wildly swing back onto the straight, you're in the wrong... Yeahhh, alright.

Thankfully I kept my cool and managed to get from 9th back to 7th through the last lap. I dreaded a DR drop but seem to have gained a couple of hundred, but I lost 9SR(!) for being smashed off track and presumably for the bit of rubbing early on.

C'mon, man... So unfair.

EDIT: He got no penalty and finished 6th or 5th.

Ooooffff what a beauty. That'll bruise.

I'm bored so let's break it down.

- Your 5 seconds is a wall penalty. Standard.

- His lack of off track penalty is most likely because he didn't gain any time advantage for doing so. (it's all relative of course, because if there's no run off area you clearly gain an advantage by not hitting a wall and dieing, but there you go).

So what we can ascertain from this is that somewhere in the calculation of all of this, either the game failed to recognise that he was the reason you hit the wall or there's something else in play to do with relative DRs and SRs which is most likely. If it hadn't been a significant incident, I imagine that somewhere in there you would have ended up with the SR down arrow.

SOOOOOO essentially it's your own fault for being a better driver that he is... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

 

[Sven Jurgens]

The NSX is cursed. First two attempt at crb this morning ruined by the penalty system. First race, I have to slow down for a wobbly driver in front, driver behind doesn't car and starts tap tapping me, SR Down, attempt over.

Second attempt, lap 11, car in front starts sliding in T4, I slow down to avoid him, get bumped from behind again. I did get the fastest lap in that one, a 1:49.0. Attempt nr 6 coming up with the NSX. You can drive clean all you want, it all depends on who gets behind you

 

[MaxAttack]

Ooooffff what a beauty. That'll bruise.

I'm bored so let's break it down.

- Your 5 seconds is a wall penalty. Standard.

- His lack of off track penalty is most likely because he didn't gain any time advantage for doing so. (it's all relative of course, because if there's no run off area you clearly gain an advantage by not hitting a wall and dieing, but there you go).

So what we can ascertain from this is that somewhere in the calculation of all of this, either the game failed to recognise that he was the reason you hit the wall or there's something else in play to do with relative DRs and SRs which is most likely. If it hadn't been a significant incident, I imagine that somewhere in there you would have ended up with the SR down arrow.

SOOOOOO essentially it's your own fault for being a better driver that he is... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

i agree with your conclusion ^.^

The penalty displayed as "Forced another car off track" and, while I haven't checked my midichlorian count recently, I'm pretty sure I didn't force push the guy

 

[Stanfandango]

Right, let's see what a race in DR B is like then, I thought on Sunday night, having been newly elevated.

The answer was....BRUTAL.

Race A was, how can I put this? Violent...yes, that's it.

Race C was better but started 15th., finished 14th.

Down from 11161to 7000 points, SR B to D (without actually hitting anyone myself) and hellooo DR C, how've you been in the 1 day I've been away?

Now to try this week's fun.

 

[The_Tullster]

I found (thanks to @Mistah_MCA for this tip) that if you downshift prior to breaking, it makes that turn in much much easier.

Thanks, that goes part way to solving it. I still can't see the apex from the turn in point though and there's no reliable landmark I've found to use as a turn in indicator. It also doesn't help that my wheel / pedals are faulty and I'm stuck with a PS4 controller
Nevertheless, I'm doing better than I ever thought I would with only the controller, it literally took me over a year to learn to drive with that thing....

 

[JoeyLeonine]

i agree with your conclusion ^.^

The penalty displayed as "Forced another car off track" and, while I haven't checked my midichlorian count recently, I'm pretty sure I didn't force push the guy

 

[Kiki_Haoru]

Renault has a pretty good history of making mad, mid engined box-of-hornets death machines with some impressive performance. They - Renault 5 Maxi Turbo especially - are the only French cars I'd be seen dead driving. They also had turbocharging down long before any glitzy Italian brand.

French cars are excellent daily drivers. Old clios and twingos are still everywhere around Europe. Newer Peugeot and Citroën share most of their mechanics with BMW, so I guess they can be kind of reliable, and style is on point. 👍 but pricing wise, they are now also very close to their German competitors... That's the main issue in my opinion, as they have not managed to identify as "Premium" brands at all.
Used to daily drive a Pug 206, I'd buy one in a heartbeat if I ever need an extremely cheap daily driver.
Plus, Renault has been known for making fast hot-hatches for some Time. The Megane R26R lapped the Nordschleife faster than many sport cars of its time
Drove the Honda S800 Yesterday, great time and I really like Suzuka east in small road cars. I've had most of my wins in sport mode on this kind of races.
Gr4 in autopolis is a lot of fun too, but the narrow track can be costly in SR.

 

[El_Beardo]

i've not done a single lap of Barthelona yet... but i did watch Dave Perel's video yesterday.. have you seen it? He highly recommends the 911 for racing round there. I'll try and get on tonight, but this track for me is still a mystery, lots to learn

I did. I'll be trying the Porsche when I get back from Sarah's, later. I wasn't particularly happy with my 46.999. But, wanted to jump in for a couple of races.

I quite like Catalunya. But, never seem happy with my hot laps. Race pace is decent enough, though.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Thanks, that goes part way to solving it. I still can't see the apex from the turn in point though and there's no reliable landmark I've found to use as a turn in indicator. It also doesn't help that my wheel / pedals are faulty and I'm stuck with a PS4 controller
Nevertheless, I'm doing better than I ever thought I would with only the controller, it literally took me over a year to learn to drive with that thing....

Reliable turn-in indicator is tyremarks on the track. Try enabling cones and corner markers for a test lap, they will show you where. Once found you can disable them again.

 

[Veinz]

I can’t remember what these fuel and tire multipliers are like. Is race C a no stop?