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kevlar_hybrid
ONE race at Catalunya.
Qualified P3 with 56th fastest EU time 01:26.391
TRL AUgh and someone else in front, for whatever reason a bunch of B and C drivers in this race (I was A+ S)
Dive bombed chaos into T1, everyone came out with 5 secs, then bounced around all over the place by the B and C drivers all race until I was reset as shown.

They simply should not allow lower ranked drivers into such races if we have to pay the price. I'd rather a race of only 4 cars near my rank than suffer this. Also - THIS is why people have alt accounts. The penalty and matching system is bad enough that, given enough attempts one day this WILL happen to you, it's just probability at play.
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I was surprised last week when I was starting from the back at the Nurburgring, I expected the lower DR players to be slower but clean since they were all SR99 but a lot of them were deliberately dirty too (pushing you off on straights to keep 15th place, etc). Lot's are clean too but some slip through the net.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I was surprised last week when I was starting from the back at the Nurburgring, I expected the lower DR players to be slower but clean since they were all SR99 but a lot of them were deliberately dirty too (pushing you off on straights to keep 15th place, etc). Lot's are clean too but some slip through the net.
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It takes me a long time and a lot of effort to keep that clean in SR and climbing in DR. It takes dirty low ranked DR drivers a couple of races to get back to SR99 after ramming you off. Personally I'd like players history to be taken into account, the data is all there. Does the system really think I suddenly decided to become a dirty rammer - after all that time and with my two graphs? As such, you can get into top ranked races with a good qualy time and SR99 (which is easy to get) and ruin a good players hard work in one race.

It's a mess, but PD don't give a damn. All those mid ranked players in the distribution curve are where the sale are, they want to please them not make a fair system.
 
kevlar_hybrid
They simply should not allow lower ranked drivers into such races if we have to pay the price. I'd rather a race of only 4 cars near my rank than suffer this. Also - THIS is why people have alt accounts. The penalty and matching system is bad enough that, given enough attempts one day this WILL happen to you, it's just probability at play.
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This is *your* fault (the A+, As and Bs), not ours, so don't be putting all the blame on *us* . Match fixing goes with whatever is available. If there were more higher ranked players, there would be more in the grid. Instead we have to put up with you lot either taking away positions from our races, or crash banging your way through the field from the back because you feel entitled to a higher position. You think we want you guys there? We *don't* ! I have had more races ruined by higher ranked drivers than by my own class.
 
Invisigoth
This is *your* fault (the A+, As and Bs), not ours, so don't be putting all the blame on *us* . Match fixing goes with whatever is available. If there were more higher ranked players, there would be more in the grid. Instead we have to put up with you lot either taking away positions from our races, or crash banging your way through the field from the back because you feel entitled to a higher position. You think we want you guys there? We *don't* ! I have had more races ruined by higher ranked drivers than by my own class.
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So we agree we shouldn't have to race each other? Smaller fields with closer to your rank drivers only? Good, me too.
 
I do feel sorry for the slower drivers, they're dumped into lobbies without a hope of winning as simple grid fillers, half of the time these people don't even get to finish the race. I've only seen it in Europe where we have most players, I imagine America and Asia are even less balanced.
 
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Invisigoth
Reality check.. in WEC, why do some cars in the same race have a sticker that says Pro and others that say Am? :sly:
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The same reason, after GT1 went the ACO needed something to fill the grid so split the GT2 class into pros and amateurs (the difference being these Am's are paying a fortune to be there). Would it make a difference if one was there without the other? Maybe, maybe not. If the pace difference is big enough they rarely see each other anyway.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
The same reason, after GT1 went the ACO needed something to fill the grid so split the GT2 class into pros and amateurs (the difference being these Am's are paying a fortune to be there). Would it make a difference if one was there without the other? Maybe, maybe not. If the pace difference is big enough they rarely see each other anyway.
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Also, Damage is Always on in Pro Am races. Makes a huge difference. And I don't mean car damage either.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I do feel sorry for the slower drivers, they're dumped into lobbies without a hope of winning as simple grid fillers, half of the time these people don't even get to finish the race. I've only seen it in Europe where we have most players, I imagine America and Asia are even less balanced.
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Don't think that us slower drivers don't feel equally sorry for the fast guys - most of the Spa races I have done so far consisted of one or two A/A+ drivers, the rest being B and S.

In one last night, the guy on pole was 4 seconds faster than me, 2.5 seconds faster than the guy in P2 - needless to say he just disappeared into the distance and won by a huge margin. His 'race' must have been very lonely, all the fun took place behind him!
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I do feel sorry for the slower drivers, they're dumped into lobbies without a hope of winning as simple grid fillers, half of the time these people don't even get to finish the race. I've only seen it in Europe where we have most players, I imagine America and Asia are even less balanced.
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Well, I would argue with that. Starting at the back of the grip or midpack is not a dishonor. You could have great race and enjoying it without necessarily targeting a win. Door number also exist for that. For example, if you do a good qualifying time starting above your door number and you manage to hold your position and even better gain few positions (without a win) happy days!
At some point, you need to be realistic and manage your race, and forget about the win sometimes (with desperate dive bombs)

In Asia, i found that quite balanced - again it all depends when you are playing. Don't get me wrong, finishing 1st is awesome but sometimes you have to remove your "trophy googles" and enjoy your race in a different way instead.

Don't feel sorry for us, we manage :)
 
Betterd my Q @spa. Had a .29.7 with the Jag. Just took the AMG out and dit a .29.4. Tbh, i think i drove that car twice in the last year. It's take's the curbes much more stabil and has very good acceleration. Front end also reacts with less understeer than the Jag. Think that i can go 2-3 thents faster with it.
 
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My first post here :D

Based on @05XR8 s extensive research, I started Spa with the Genesis, and boy, what a handler it is. I am still new at GT Sport so my first quali time in SPA was a 35.xx. Over the last 2 days I managed to bring this down to 33.xx using the Genesis. Then last night, I received the SLS AMG as a gift car and I immediately took it to SPA. On the first lap itself I managed to get a quali time of 32.xx. Just like that. I later noticed that the AMG is FAAAST on the Kemmel straight. Although it does get out of hand if you push it too much. I am eager to see what the SLS can do. I want to knock off another second of my quali time :lol:

On another note - I started P4 in SPA last evening, and it is the worst place to start. The Auto drive came off on the last chicane when i was facing the curbs/wall. I lost one position to the guy who started P5 even before the start finish line.
 
kevlar_hybrid
It takes me a long time and a lot of effort to keep that clean in SR and climbing in DR. It takes dirty low ranked DR drivers a couple of races to get back to SR99 after ramming you off. Personally I'd like players history to be taken into account, the data is all there. Does the system really think I suddenly decided to become a dirty rammer - after all that time and with my two graphs? As such, you can get into top ranked races with a good qualy time and SR99 (which is easy to get) and ruin a good players hard work in one race.

It's a mess, but PD don't give a damn. All those mid ranked players in the distribution curve are where the sale are, they want to please them not make a fair system.
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I've had the same thoughts for a long time. Take a look at the stats of the last 20 races of this Belgian idiot:
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This person has been wreaking havoc online for years - just look at how unstable his/her SR is.
 
Skinny McLean
This person has been wreaking havoc online for years - just look at how unstable his/her SR is.
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Yep.
It took me 5 races to get back to SR99 (same number as for the rammers)
It will take me weeks to get my DR back to where it was before the ram race.

The risk for the rammers is VERY small.
The risk to the RAMMED is HUGE.

That's the problem.
 

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Vette was good. Planted.
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Viper a bit loose at the start. Had to pull over due to connection. Fixed itself no problem for rest of the race.

BMW M4 GR Supra GT4 did its thing. Start-finish P3. Next race same, but with the JTCC livery, the car felt faster each lap. Good stuff.
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kevlar_hybrid
Yep.
It took me 5 races to get back to SR99 (same number as for the rammers)
It will take me weeks to get my DR back to where it was before the ram race.

The risk for the rammers is VERY small.
The risk to the RAMMED is HUGE.

That's the problem.
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where do you get this data?

also, i got over my little tantrum. did two races at spa and i am on C C after being rammed into D E yesterday. 2 races 2 second places so pretty happy. started p3 on both from memory, juuuuust on the edge of the death zone in the rolling start.
 
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bone_tone
Don't think that us slower drivers don't feel equally sorry for the fast guys - most of the Spa races I have done so far consisted of one or two A/A+ drivers, the rest being B and S.

In one last night, the guy on pole was 4 seconds faster than me, 2.5 seconds faster than the guy in P2 - needless to say he just disappeared into the distance and won by a huge margin. His 'race' must have been very lonely, all the fun took place behind him!
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Yeah. Don't forget the massive reward he must have gotten for that race. Like 50 DR points. Maybe even 80. :lol:
 
05XR8
Vette was good. Planted.

Viper a bit loose at the start. Had to pull over due to connection. Fixed itself no problem for rest of the race.
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You are at least the second person who found the 'vette stable. I found it was a bloody nightmare, it was like driving the Paris Hilton GT3. The Viper for me was so much easier to deal with. I intended to do another 3 laps of la Sarthe in the X2014 for the dough, but ended up doing some qualy with the rexy. Beat my Viper time by a second with my optimal a second faster again. I had to lift just a hair at Eau Rouge and Blanchimont with the Viper, but flat with the WRX.
 
@Invisigoth I just ran a race in the Viper and I liked it. I'm very close to as fast in that as I am in my best qualifier (the Jag) and it's easy to be consistent with it. And it's planted on the track like a 200 year old oak tree, I got dive bombed last lap at the final chicane, the Hurracan behind me stopped facing backwards and for me it just felt like I'd clipped the kerb slightly. I got a five second penalty that cost me a place, but the perpetrator still finished behind me and also lost a place. It also drafts like a freight train, a good draft down Kemmel is worth 10mph. Got two of those in that race, the second one was so good I had to take the run-off rather than the corner to avoid punting the car in front. I'd braked early enough to make the turn in but the driver in front had chosen a slow, late entry for drive through the corner.

Following race, back in the Jag. CRB, P6>P5, recovered nearly all the lost SR/DR from the previous race. Cars in front pulled away, cars behind lost ground.

As for P4/5/6 on the grid, yes they suck but I don't think they're that big a disadvantage. When I get those positions (usually), I just grab second gear as soon as the count down finishes and drive it like I would every other lap. Results vary, but on average I think I'm holding ground with the car in front at least as far as the turn in for La Source.
 
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LordExia
My quali time is 2:29:4, however in the lobbies that I've raced in, that's good only for P10-P14 :indiff:
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If you're SR S 99 or close to max, that could be the reason. Qualifying times are more competitive because people are generally faster and run away from most contact/bump drafts so can stay at a high SR.

I'm SR A (now B) as of last week so my lobbies have been slower but matchmaking is improved. High SR S lobbies usually have groups of people racing. A few with ridiculously low times who run away with the victory, the "fight to the death" midpack and slow lobby filler in the bottom quarter.
 
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Got a g29 on Monday. It's gonna take some time to catch my controller times. So far I'm 2 seconds off my best lap on today's nations cup race. On spa with the wheel the best I got is a .28.7. Haven't tried with the controller. Not touching it again. With a wheel I'd say I'm DR B at best. It's gonna take time. But I'm loving it.
To add to the challenge I decided I'm only driving Ferrari from now on. I'm gonna be a OTP Ferrari driver.
 
Does anyone of you found cheaters at Spa this week? I thought this was no longer an issue but yesterday night did 4/5 laps in qualy, with the ghost of the P10 player. I followed quite close through the whole lap but when reaching the braking point for the chicane his ghost just turned right cutting all of the bus stop, reaching the painted area in the right on the exit and keeping the car there until crossing the line (or almost)

It really took me by surprise, is everyone doing this again?
 
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