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I've only raced one race this week, at Tokyo. I started 3rd in the 86 on medium tires. After reading some posts here, I gave it a good run, and ended up faster and more consistant than I was in the 4c, so I raced it. I got a good launch, but tapped the wall coming out of the first turn. Not being a blocker, I had a stream of cars come by, and most weren't gentle about it. Once back in the pack, it was pretty brutal. I finished 12th. Tires seemed alot slicker than in practice, and I couldn't maintain corner speeds anywhere near what I did in practice. I think racing here on my alt will be the norm this week. There really are no good passing zones, and if running laps near what's possible (say 17's and even low 18's) there is really no way to pass unless someone makes an error, or you put someone into a wall. So you wait for someone to brush the wall, but top guys usually are "conservative" enough to stay off the walls. Sometimes you'll get clean guys up front, and it will be lots of manuevering but no passing. Most often you'll get the bump and pass. If you're lucky, you just go a bit wide and loose one spot. Maybe a "sorry" after the race. Other Tokyo layouts are better for racing.
 
There’s something about the Mini and this track layout that makes me nervous. Are my front tires supposed to be smoking a bit when I turn too hard, or am I driving the Mini wrong? Plus, I’m really not the biggest fan of that first turn, going from the cambered track onto that wide bend - something about it makes it hard for me to aim for the apex properly. I might just wait out this week again. Is this layout just better with different FF cars? Alternatively, maybe it’s better with non-FF cars.

I also don’t know what to make of how the car seems to rev higher as I turn, insofar that I feel like I’m forced to shift before I reach the normal speed I’d be shifting at. I think this happens with the older Mini, too. Maybe I should enable TCS?

EDIT: Could it be that the Mini gets wheelspin as I’m turning, as it loses traction in at least one of the front wheels? That’d explain why it seemingly revs higher than it should, and why the front wheels sometime get a bit smoky.
 
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There’s something about the Mini and this track layout that makes me nervous. Are my front tires supposed to be smoking a bit when I turn too hard, or am I driving the Mini wrong? Plus, I’m really not the biggest fan of that first turn, going from the cambered track onto that wide bend - something about it makes it hard for me to aim for the apex properly. I might just wait out this week again. Is this layout just better with different FF cars? Alternatively, maybe it’s better with non-FF cars.

I also don’t know what to make of how the car seems to rev higher as I turn, insofar that I feel like I’m forced to shift before I reach the normal speed I’d be shifting at. I think this happens with the older Mini, too. Maybe I should enable TCS?
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Yes, if you're going fast, the tires will smoke. I was in that race with you.
Even the top 10 laps have plenty of tire smoke in them. Personally, I have used TCS 1 in all my Mini races, so far.
Enter turn 1 from mid track. If that doesn't work, enter from all the way to the left. Both will work fine, and the transition won't be problematic.
 
Tried different Brake balances on the porsche 911:
0 Felt pretty good & under control
+2 made the tail slide out under heavy braking
-1 lowered the stopping distance compared to 0, and felt pretty good

Didn't try -2 yet, for now will stick to -1.
 
sturk0167
Yes, if you're going fast, the tires will smoke. I was in that race with you.
Even the top 10 laps have plenty of tire smoke in them. Personally, I have used TCS 1 in all my Mini races, so far.
Enter turn 1 from mid track. If that doesn't work, enter from all the way to the left. Both will work fine, and the transition won't be problematic.
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I leave TCS off. Reminds of the days I had a VR6 conversion in my A2 Jetta 16V. :D
 
deviln3
Tried different Brake balances on the porsche 911:
0 Felt pretty good & under control
+2 made the tail slide out under heavy braking
-1 lowered the stopping distance compared to 0, and felt pretty good

Didn't try -2 yet, for now will stick to -1.
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I set my qual time with -2 but go to 0 for the race for more maneuverability dodging people and better ease thru final chicane. -2 for me yields faster exit speed but braking points have little margin of error.
 
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deviln3
Looking for some input on brake balance. What are you guys using for Race B?

When there is no tire wear, what kind of brake balance do you use? I have it set to 0 atm for my porsche.
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@fuji: AMG Gt3, BB 3 REAR, 1.39.844, DS4-D-Pad. Grtz

Up to .39.710 now. Very happy because Fuji is my worst. In Gr.3, my best was a .40.0. ...Until now...Happy here!
 
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deviln3
Looking for some input on brake balance. What are you guys using for Race B?

When there is no tire wear, what kind of brake balance do you use? I have it set to 0 atm for my porsche.
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-1 on the R8 LMS.

On races with no tire wear, I tend to be a bit more varied in BB between different cars. At that point, I go more for a BB that compliments my driving style, instead of one that helps even out tire wear when it's on.
 
Better off avoiding or going no qually this week. Entered in the mini race, ugly. Started p2. Got pushed off track turn 1 by p3, as I rejoined I got.punted wide heading into the next turn and got a penalty. Heading to the hairpin I got punted into the wall. End up last by 1.4. Run back up to pack and get rubbed on the wall trying to pass someone. Total demo derby. Drop from 99 to 79. Pretty much all from 1 lap. Going to ghost out of a race C or something to nurse my SR back up. If SE 99 lobbies are going to be that bad I am getting my 99 and running away.:crazy:

1 race at Tokyo, 5 uglyish laps as some guys decided to bounce off walls a lot, but no penalties to me, and then 10 fairly steady clean laps. All the way back to 99. Even snuck a p2 as I finished debut guy in p3 got the tire penalty. Wondered how I was running him down before the pit stop then even after it. Oh well. All good.
 
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Not competitive at fuji right now, back to Dr b in 5 races :(
Is the Dr points system tougher at Dr a? I did a couple of p7 and gained just 100dr, while p9 p10 and 12 cost me 800, 1000 and 1400 points!
I tried a A race but was a Sr killer (-20),not touching Tokyo for the same reason. Guess I have to focus on race b and improve my quali time, 39.5 at the moment.
 
UjiOgami15
Not competitive at fuji right now, back to Dr b in 5 races :(
Is the Dr points system tougher at Dr a? I did a couple of p7 and gained just 100dr, while p9 p10 and 12 cost me 800, 1000 and 1400 points!
I tried a A race but was a Sr killer (-20),not touching Tokyo for the same reason. Guess I have to focus on race b and improve my quali time, 39.5 at the moment.
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Yeah, the higher your DR, the harder it is to gain more and the easier it is to lose. At high A/ low A+ You’re lucky to get 50-100 points for a win most times.
 
Finally beat 1:17 in Tokyo with 1:16.899.
Did only one race, started 7th on hards. Got outpaced by almost everyone and dropped to 14th or something. Decided to change tires early to get ahead of a slow pack of cars in front of me. Pitted on 6th lap and switched to mediums. The car was almost flying. At least for a couple of laps, where I was able to climb up to P5. Unfortunately, tirewear kicked in and I made a couple of mistakes because of that, letting two faster drivers through. Finished on P7.

I must admit that the first lap of the race is the most difficult, I don't recognise the car at all. Didn't feel anything like it at Mona or Sardegna last week.

I tried to start another race on mediums, but the car was all over the place, I lost a couple of positions and accidentally smashed someone to the wall. Slowed down to wait for him, but looked like he'd already quit. Saw no point of racing further and left the lobby as well, ashamed of myself. A long way ahead to learn where I can overtake and go side by side with others, and where it is a bad idea.

Any strategy tips for this race? For now I feel like making two pitstops can be beneficial, as the pit lane is very short, and having mediums would be worthwhile.

djidane57
not a single Alsace daily race in the last two years , of course Suzuka and Tsukuba are wayyy overused , and the rare times a GR1 daily race is live, the fuel/tyre multipliers always favors the toyotas , geez i know PD is a Japanese company , i know they have ties with toyota but still
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The pictures show only top tracks. In total Alsace Village was used 6 times, and Alsace Village II - two times. Only one race at Alsace Village II in 2019 in June, and no races at a regular track. No races in 2020 yet. So yeah, still a very low frequency for this track.

After looking at car+track combo for a bit, I don't understand what's up with la Sarthe GR1 combo? Not a single other track featured GR1 cars more than once! All the while la Sarthe had this event 9 times plus one time with no chicane layout, making it 10 in total, one of two most frequent combos along Interlagos GR3. I guess other tracks are not certified for these cars or what? :lol: :irked:

That's one of the main reasons I'm trying to get into FIA races now, just to have a bit more variety. Maybe that was PD's plan all along...

So, now going from the bottom of the list, the most uncommon tracks in daily races:

3 appearances:
Autodromo Nazionale Monza No Chicane
BB Raceway
Brands Hatch Indy Circuit
Dragon Trail - Seaside II
KYOTO DRIVING PARK - YAMAGIWA+MIYABI
Sardegna - Road Track - C
Tokyo Expressway - Central Inner Loop

2 appearances:
Alsace - Village II
Autodrome Lago Maggiore - East II
Autodrome Lago Maggiore - West II
Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A
Fuji Speedway F
Fuji Speedway GT
Northern Isle Speedway
Red Bull Ring Short Track
Sardegna - Road Track - A
Tokyo Expressway - South Inner Loop
WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca

1 appearance:
Autodrome Lago Maggiore - West
AUTOPOLIS INTERNATIONAL RACING COURSE SHORTCUT COURSE
Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A II
Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield B
Circuit de Sainte-Croix - B
Circuit de Sainte-Croix - C
Dragon Trail - Gardens II
KYOTO DRIVING PARK - YAMAGIWA+MIYABI II
Sardegna - Road Track - B II
Tokyo Expressway - East Inner Loop
Willow Springs International Raceway: Streets of Willow Springs
Willow Springs International Raceway: Streets of Willow Springs II
 
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Pigems
Yeah, the higher your DR, the harder it is to gain more and the easier it is to lose. At high A/ low A+ You’re lucky to get 50-100 points for a win most times.
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Thanks.
Well,then I think I hit my wall. I can see seeyself climbing again at 30+k, but not being consistent enough to get podiums at dr a, let alone win. I will still try to enjoy my races though
 
Sven Jurgens
The cold tire and dirty tire effect is very real.

After I come out of the pit (with the same tires yet now fresh) I have to adjust my braking point (ever so slightly) for the first couple turns before getting back in the rhythm. I have also seen plenty people come out of the pits to go off in T1 right after.

The dirty tire effect is even more pronounced. After taking a little detour over the grass you better brake a bit earlier for the next turn. I use it to my advantage when a car in front of me goes wide and takes a little tour over the grass. I close in, and go along their inside in the next turn as they invariably go a bit wide leaving the door open and I can out corner them through the turn.

Definitely not placebo effects, the loss of grip is very real.
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I also think that the dirty tire effect is real. After landing on the grass, it's very hard get off it. I don't use TCS, so it's even harder. But when I'm on the track again it takes a while before you can go flat out.
But there's also a human aspect. When you go offtrack when going fast, it seems that your brains are upset or disorientated. It takes a while before all is OK again. After that you can do your normal thing. It depends on the person ofcourse.
 
On monday I did a few races at Fuji and it was a pleasure to do so. After last week's Monza, which was really disastrous for me. My first DR drop.
But it has an advantage I think.
Back at D and C already, I'm in races with all different cars and less rammers who ram on purpose. Ofcourse they sometimes do stupid things, but it's much better than the higher B lobbies. At least, it's my first impression.
But I will be in B soon again and see what happens.
It's very enjoyable to race at Fuji in Gr.3. I've waited a long time for that.
 
Good morning friends,
I enjoyed a few daily races yesterday afternoon. I chose selection A. All went quite well overall with nice results and clean fun until I became involved in an altercation with one of my friends from south of the equator. He insisted on failing to brake when behind me late in the race. This caused me to finish third rather than second.
I was advised by council that this individual was a known repeat offender and caused trouble last week also.
I pulled the needed warrant and apprehended him...I did lose my S license, but one race C restored it to full good standing.
This morning this beautiful melody was playing so I decided to share it...


Cheers
 
Fuji update. Mazda Atenza is too slow, I did well with this car in the FIA season but it’s not a sprinter. I didn’t know where i’d end up so I dropped into a race with a 1:40ish qualifying lap. Started dead last and remembered two things about Fuji. 1) don’t battle, just wait and anyone who battles will slow themselves and their opponent down. 2) don’t get dirty with anyone, as they will almost always have a chance to reciprocate before the lap is over. I don’t like to race dirty but hit me once, shame on me, hit me twice, and i’ll make sure you end up regretting it.

All of these are minimum A/S lobbies, so keep that in mind when you watch other’s driving style.

16th to 8th in the Atenza
Teachable moment about contact in there


15th to 11th after switching to the Mercedes and moving up to a higher lobby with a better qualifying time
Another teachable moment about contact


Revenge of the rage quitter. Guy in mustang was being used as a punching bag, but I didn’t know that, I just saw him all over the track on the final sector so I went for an inside cut, you’ll see this move done properly without contact in my videos above, but if a driver isn’t spatially aware, they cut in late and get upset at you. When in a pack, don’t leave the inside open, yes we know a wide line is faster, but this isn’t qualifying. Anyway, he got his revenge and punted me to kingdom come then rage quit. I still salvaged some points.



The “surprise punt-stuff!” race. Driver aimed right for my quarter and sent me spinning on lap 1, tried it again on lap 2 and missed. Later, I was blocked from the inside, then the outside entering turn 1, so I went back inside, and the driver was not happy. Pick a side and stick to it, i’ll leave you room on exit ;)

 
Race C has surprised me. I usually avoid Tokyo like the plague (or covid-19, take your pick), but the little 1.5s penalties per lap on occasion as apposed to the usual 1min + penalties have meant that I have been able to slowly claw my SR back in recovery from being Monza'd. In a single race at Monza I went from 90 to 65. I managed to get back 5 from one race, and 11 from another. I did however manage to cop a 20s penalty even though I pitted. I must have had mediums on to start with :dunce:. My last race was with the M4. I think that it got nerfed some time ago from having the best fuel economy to the worst. Despite that I still had 1.3 laps left bouncing it off the rev limiter. I did however cop a 3s penalty and an orange SR when a Huracan ( gee what a frickin surprise :banghead:) decided to barge his was through the inside, pushing me into the wall.

18 more SR to go! DR/C, the journey continues :rolleyes:.
 
I need to focus on racing a penalty free race c. I normally have great pace but every 4 or 5 laps I tap the wall too hard and pick up a 1.5 sec penalty. It does really stink that there is no decent place to pass (other than the back straight and even that can be tricky).

I'm fast with the 86 but can't stay consistent. For some reason I can't figure out the 4C even though I've driven it plenty. Gonna try the NSX and Scirocco today. A guy in the top 10 qualifying rankings was driving the NSX and I believe I recall someone saying the VW was being used quite a bit on the European servers.
 
Early last night, I had been prepared to come on here and say how wonderfully clean the Race B on my alt (USA) acount had been each time. That is until I then got caught in a series of DR/SR massacres, with some of the dirtiest racing I've seen in some time! I went from trying to gently improve my B/S rating to being dumped down in the cesspit of C/D.:banghead:

So, today I'm trying to just get to SR S first, and guess what - half the drivers at SR C and D are either ramming morons or haven't a clue what their brakes and steering are for. My DR is the lowest it's been since Day two of the 82 I've had that account! 🤬

Also, is anyone else finding they are disconnected from the server as soon as they get to the results/chat screen after almost every race today? I still have a connection to the server on the game homepage after I click ok to the disconnected screen each time.:confused:
 
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Early last night, I had been prepared to come on here and say how wonderfully clean the Race B on my alt (USA) acount had been each time. That is until I then got caught in a series of DR/SR massacres, with some of the dirtiest racing I've seen in some time! I went from trying to gently improve my B/S rating to being dumped down in the cesspit of C/D.:banghead:

So, today I'm trying to just get to SR S first, and guess what - half the drivers at SR C and D are either ramming morons or haven't a clue what their brakes and steering are for. My DR is the lowest it's been since Day two of the 82 I've had that account! 🤬

Also, is anyone else finding they are disconnected from the server as soon as they get to the results/chat screen after almost every race today? I still have a connection to the server on the game homepage after I click ok to the disconnected screen each time.:confused:
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You don’t wanna drop below A sr.
 
Next Week's Races:
A: N200 (provided) - Alsace - 2 laps - Sports Hard - Grid Start - Weak Slipstream
B: N400 (one make) - Spa - 3 laps - Sports Hard - Grid Start - Real Slipstream
C: Gr.3 - Kyoto Yamagiwa + Miyabi - 8 laps - Racing Medium, Hard - x3 fuel, x15 tyre wear - Rolling Start - Real Slipstream
 
TeddyWestside
Tell me something I don't know.
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Due to the fact that vehicle fuel economy is measured exclusively in units that measure distance (litres and gallons are both volumes, which is distance x distance x distance), it's possible to cancel the units and express fuel economy in square metres/square yards.

A vehicle which does 40mpg in fact has a fuel economy of 0.00011 square inches. If that's hard to visualise, the fuel that the car would require to drive any route could be contained in a tube the length of the route which has a cross-section of 0.00011 square inches.
 
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