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Yes. I slightly lift before turning in, to tighten my line, as I accelerate on entry through the whole corner.
I use 3rd for the next right, but that player that passed me, I don't know how, but was blisteringly quick through there. Maybe they take that in 4th or slightly lift. I just don't know. He/she left me in the dust.

Yes use 4th there too but with a bit of brake this time, when you get it right you'll know. ;)
 
I make strategy charts and often put them on Twitter and my videos. I thought I should share them here, at least for the C race: ...

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Mostly top 10 finishes at Monza for me. My only gripes are the somewhat random 4 second penalty at t1’s chaos and the lamest Red Bull being a bit tail-happy.

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Yeah, I had to build the courage to hold 4th gear for the right-hander after the first chicane. That helped me build a gap to cars behind.
Yeah no brakes at Lesmo 1, just lift throttle to load up the front tires before turn in. You can easily pull 2-3 tenths on people braking for that corner. Also I've done something like 75 laps of Monza this week and I'm still not braking late enough at Ascari, my first race I was losing half a second a lap to first place through there. :eek:

Nailed it. Along as you go in knowing that first chicane will be what it is, pretty reasonable to get decent finishes if you race smart the rest of the way.
Yeah, I've just been trying to be around or close to the first apex when I get rammed so I can cut the second apex using the extra momentum and rejoin the track on the inside. Of course, why people don't realize there's always going to be a traffic jam there on Lap 1 and actually slow down, I'll never understand. Maybe on Friday night's DRWF we can manage a clean lap 1, just to prove it's possible. :lol:
 
Why do you have your fuel map at 3? That is suicide for Race C this week.

Wow, I'm an idiot. That would explain it.


Race C
I blew the start every single time. I think I've had 3 grid races ever and you can't practice it anywhere. Grid starts in custom races are on 3 count. Why wouldn't they have that? This opens up for the next question. With all these failed starts and pushed back at the pack, every time I blew passed the chicane pile up every time, going from P16 to P5, and finished P5. Maybe just luck but would this be a possible strategy? Or is it possible to take a penalty through the chicanes to avoid the pile up? Also you can't practice 16x tread wear, only 10x, and AI is just horribly bad.
 
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Wow, I'm an idiot. That would explain it.


Race C
I blew the start every single time. I think I've had 3 grid races ever and you can't practice it anywhere. Grid starts in custom races are on 3 count. Why wouldn't they have that? This opens up for the next question. With all these failed starts and pushed back at the pack, every time I blew passed the chicane pile up every time, going from P16 to P5, and finished P5. Maybe just luck but would this be a possible strategy? Or is it possible to take a penalty through the chicanes to avoid the pile up? Also you can't practice 16x tread wear, only 10x, and AI is just horribly bad.
You can practice grid start with false start checks and high fuel / tyre multipliers in lobbies.
 
Race C
I blew the start every single time. I think I've had 3 grid races ever and you can't practice it anywhere. Grid starts in custom races are on 3 count. Why wouldn't they have that? This opens up for the next question. With all these failed starts and pushed back at the pack, every time I blew passed the chicane pile up every time, going from P16 to P5, and finished P5. Maybe just luck but would this be a possible strategy? Or is it possible to take a penalty through the chicanes to avoid the pile up? Also you can't practice 16x tread wear, only 10x, and AI is just horribly bad.
One thing that is helpful with regard to grid starts: I've read and it seems entirely true, that when you have any % of brake applied... the car absolutely will not launch. It's different than real life in that regard, so it's really safe to just conduct a launch start (A) with 60% throttle or so (more is just slamming the TCS dithering and taking away from a faster start, for most cars) and (B) foot on the brake, at any moderate pressure, and then release the brake pedal at the 'lights out'. Be sure to be ready to shift up, and there is little else to manage for an optimum start in most cases. I put the TCS on 2 (or 3 in extreme cases for high-HP, low traction RWD cars, but not really recommended as it will slow your upshifts) to avoid wheelspin, then flip it to my usual 0 after the first turn or next available chance.

You can practice it in the lobbies, as noted, but it's not too difficult once you realize the brake pedal is 'magic' and there is little to manage other than lifting off that pedal when the lights go out!
 
Made another Top 5 finish in Race C. Went from P12 to P4 with a 1.5 second penalty included.

Key is to avoid unnecessary conflict and wait it out. For the last 4 laps I was 2 seconds behind 5th place. Both 4th and 5th place were having an intense and clean fight for the whole time and had each other’s slipstream. As a result they kept pulling ahead of me and I couldn’t catch up. BUT, I knew they’ll make a mistake. And they did. On the last lap they touched and took each other out, and I gained 2 places. Just like that.
 
One thing that is helpful with regard to grid starts: I've read and it seems entirely true, that when you have any % of brake applied... the car absolutely will not launch. It's different than real life in that regard, so it's really safe to just conduct a launch start (A) with 60% throttle or so (more is just slamming the TCS dithering and taking away from a faster start, for most cars) and (B) foot on the brake, at any moderate pressure, and then release the brake pedal at the 'lights out'. Be sure to be ready to shift up, and there is little else to manage for an optimum start in most cases. I put the TCS on 2 (or 3 in extreme cases for high-HP, low traction RWD cars, but not really recommended as it will slow your upshifts) to avoid wheelspin, then flip it to my usual 0 after the first turn or next available chance.

You can practice it in the lobbies, as noted, but it's not too difficult once you realize the brake pedal is 'magic' and there is little to manage other than lifting off that pedal when the lights go out!

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
 
The PS support page tells you that you will not be told what your errant behaviour was, nor will it be rescinded because all decisions are final. In all likelihood, it was for using an expletive (voice or typed) or term of abuse against a protected characteristic, because that's just about the only thing that PS takes any action against for regular players. That and sending pictures of your winky. The other thing is using the report function too much.
Yes, I do understand most of the situation and agreed that I most likely did go to the line, so most likely over it when I was getting penalties for people crashing into me after already being off track. And I cam understand my warning. My issue was that the PSN support person stated that any reply in any way to abusive messages could be considered as a violation. I specifically asked if that meant I could be punished for replying 'lol,' 'right' or 'report' when someone sends me the vulgar profanity laced messages that I have received in the past. He said yes. I would be considered as engaging them so encouraging it. That part I really found confusing. I was also told that with my warning I was pretty much now officially encouraged to never message another player again unless I already knew them as a friend.

I understand protecting the kids, but the reporting I have done about people sending horrible abusive or vulgar messages over and over, some peole reported multiple times over 6 months, and nothing happens. So just getting my head around the lot of it. Also figure I can use my admitted stupidity to help warn others, the line is very grey and be super cautious.

EDIT: On the other hand I did have fun running a couple of race C from the back to salvage my Fuji'd SR. No CRB though ad both times I lost it on my own somewhere and just drifted off track. Still a fun combo, but I don't have the guts or energy to do proper hard racing in it at the moment.
 
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One thing that is helpful with regard to grid starts: I've read and it seems entirely true, that when you have any % of brake applied... the car absolutely will not launch. It's different than real life in that regard, so it's really safe to just conduct a launch start (A) with 60% throttle or so (more is just slamming the TCS dithering and taking away from a faster start, for most cars) and (B) foot on the brake, at any moderate pressure, and then release the brake pedal at the 'lights out'. Be sure to be ready to shift up, and there is little else to manage for an optimum start in most cases. I put the TCS on 2 (or 3 in extreme cases for high-HP, low traction RWD cars, but not really recommended as it will slow your upshifts) to avoid wheelspin, then flip it to my usual 0 after the first turn or next available chance.

You can practice it in the lobbies, as noted, but it's not too difficult once you realize the brake pedal is 'magic' and there is little to manage other than lifting off that pedal when the lights go out!
I always just use the handbrake for me it's much quicker to release the button, and always only TC 1 in a straight line you shouldn't wheel spin and turn it off before the first gear change ideally as it slows you down changing gear
 
I've had a go at race C and B so far
Race C I made sure to do a decent lap manage to fluke a decent time and have been near the front or front row each time
Entered the chicane 1st
Came out in 17th because of a 7 punt train from a nutty bloke in about 12th
Manage to pick my way through the carnage and made few enough mistakes to catch back up and win the race,
The only other time I made it through and one guy stuck with me the whole race tried to pass on the last lap and hit the kerb at the chicane so I won

Race B
I really love hate this track, like it's great to drive in places but frustrating to pass
Right now I've had 4 laps after doing a couple races starting on. 45.2
Now I'm down to a 44.5 I think I can't remember but on pole most races now thank god, I can just about manage to string together 4 laps without bottling it
So I may finally get the 15 clean race achievement
 
I've had a go at race C and B so far
Race C I made sure to do a decent lap manage to fluke a decent time and have been near the front or front row each time
Entered the chicane 1st
Came out in 17th because of a 7 punt train from a nutty bloke in about 12th
Manage to pick my way through the carnage and made few enough mistakes to catch back up and win the race,
The only other time I made it through and one guy stuck with me the whole race tried to pass on the last lap and hit the kerb at the chicane so I won

Race B
I really love hate this track, like it's great to drive in places but frustrating to pass
Right now I've had 4 laps after doing a couple races starting on. 45.2
Now I'm down to a 44.5 I think I can't remember but on pole most races now thank god, I can just about manage to string together 4 laps without bottling it
So I may finally get the 15 clean race achievement

Only took me 600+ races just to get 10 clean race streak, lol few weeks ago at Spa. That's really fast at Fuji 44.5 can't imagine you'll be losing much just keep it together first lap!
 
Don't care how mixed up the field was but I did manage to pull a CRB from Monza racing from the back. Had to evade a few issues as other drivers would forget about slipstream, but managed it nicely. Not fast, but got the job done.

Very mixed field though DR A through to D, SR S down to B. Including the D/B rated driver who was starting in front of me. Madness.
 
Why can't more people race like this guy? The irony is we both got punted earlier in the race. The sad thing is after he overtook me half a lap later, he got punted by the next driver he tried to overtake.


I like that track a lot. I think amongst fair racers that it allows good risk/reward potential and some creative lines for racing.

And for the clean racing... I don't think the poor sports that behave otherwise understand the appreciation and satisfaction of close racing, like when you know the car passing you is faster and earned the spot, but you tuck in close behind his bumper to protect yourself from further attack, or to start setting up for retaking it. So much more rewarding than punting people by divebombing or dooring someone.
 
Only took me 600+ races just to get 10 clean race streak, lol few weeks ago at Spa. That's really fast at Fuji 44.5 can't imagine you'll be losing much just keep it together first lap!
Well I'm on over 1500 races and still haven't managed 15 in a row
Not that long ago when it was a supra cup on one of the Kyoto layouts I was really quick and was getting pole and the win and even if I didn't win the battles were clean and I got to 14 in a row then on the last lap of the 15th race some guy tried to pull off a move on the grass spun Infront then I couldn't avoid but I carried on and won but the collision with me meant I got a penalty for contact and no clean race, I was fuming

Why can't more people race like this guy? The irony is we both got punted earlier in the race. The sad thing is after he overtook me half a lap later, he got punted by the next driver he tried to overtake.


With this kind of racing, it's good but it's really frustrating for both involved, like learning when to back out and conceed is just as good. Because especially on a track like this you lose so many seconds.

I haven't really found anywhere good to overtake at autopolis, I've got areas where I'm often able to get alongside and make a move, but stubborness, lack of radar and or jsut misjudgement mean it often ends in contact

For example into the double left before the first hairpin, the first hairpin it's self and the left after the fast down hill right. I can usually run up alongside and make the move but no one sees it which is frustrating often means I almost have to crash myself out to back out of it or get a silly sr down for nothing
 
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Well I'm on over 1500 races and still haven't managed 15 in a row
Not that long ago when it was a supra cup on one of the Kyoto layouts I was really quick and was getting pole and the win and even if I didn't win the battles were clean and I got to 14 in a row then on the last lap of the 15th race some guy tried to pull off a move on the grass spun Infront then I couldn't avoid but I carried on and won but the collision with me meant I got a penalty for contact and no clean race, I was fuming

I can only imagine it was difficult just getting 10 myself seems like after 4 clean races, something always happens. I've got hundreds of 4 clean race streaks though. :lol:
 
I can only imagine it was difficult just getting 10 myself seems like after 4 clean races, something always happens. I've got hundreds of 4 clean race streaks though. :lol:
I got none at Fuji last week cos I bashed the barrier every pit entry but other than those collision I probably would have done it
I'm hoping I can just do some lights to flag wins, I would do Monza but the chicane is such a lottery but if I get through it I'm sure I can
 
I got none at Fuji last week cos I bashed the barrier every pit entry but other than those collision I probably would have done it
I'm hoping I can just do some lights to flag wins, I would do Monza but the chicane is such a lottery but if I get through it I'm sure I can

That's a super crapshoot even if you qualify for pole you have to rely on the guys behind you. It's out of your hands at that point but if you can get thru clean fast exit you'll gap people. Can you do that 15 times? That's a tough bet!
 
Race A is very fun.Getting used to the small french half-hatch is very rewarding. It is tough tho, and the lack of momentum u can catty w/o penalties is sometimes nerve-racking when going side-by-side. Especially if it's a driver that you don't completely trust.
Race B is more challenging , mostly bc I suck around Autopolis in pretty much any car. I'll qualify around the top 5, but those top 5 are real fast gays and gals, so keeping up with then is non-existent. Still a fun track once you get a rhythm going though.
Have not even touched Race C yet cause I don't want to go backwards in DR/SR.
 
Race B is killing me... I really enjoy the layout but there is constant trouble in turn 1 and the hairpins - lots of aggression and the no-penalty bump from the inside. Keep getting slammed into and my SR and DR destroyed even when taking the inside lines to protect myself. Only upside is the aggressors usually end up wiping out a corner or two later from overdriving the turns. Just got SR dropped to 70 from 99 and am also at risk of dropping down to C DR. Pissed.
 
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