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I think the reason PD often use hard tyres is because you're extracting the most out of a car with more emphasis placed on its strengths and weaknesses. So a handling car will have a better level of grip whereas another car makes up for it by speed or braking. If everyone ran softs, pros and cons between cars becomes less apparent since you're 'carried' more by the tyres rather than the car's own strengths.

I might be way off base but those were always my thoughts.
 
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Wow, thanks @Skinny McLean @kungtotte_ @RacingGrandpa @GOTMAXPOWER @bone_tone @NoStopN @05XR8 for helping me out (hope I didn't forget anyone)! Definitely have some food for thought now :lol:

What I got from all the advice is that number 1 (practicing on your own) will help me to be more consistent on the track in clean air, while number 2 (practicing in the race itself) will help me to learn more about how to drive when battling with other drivers. Knowing the track and being able to put in consistent lap times one after another can be used as some kind of baseline, so when I'm driving with tire wear I will just adjust accordingly.

My problem for most of the time is I know how to pass all the corners to get a lap time around my Q time or even faster, but my hands find it hard to recreate the exact movements lap after lap after lap. One lap I make a little error on turn 2, the other lap it will be some other corner. Add tire wear and psychological pressure of the race and small errors turn into going off-track or barrier collisions :boggled:
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👍 I get nervous at times. Mainly if I set a qualy time. It's like I have something to lose. When I don't qualy, I've got nothing to lose. I like to be the chaser. Guess it's a learned trait from Gran Turismo1-GT Sport.
My main goals are, finish one spot ahead of where I started and /or finish in the top 10. That's it.
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And just like that, my level of interest in the St Croix race dropped considerably. :indiff:
Hopefully, tire wear will slow down the FWDs after a lap or two.
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It'll depend how far ahead the rolling start is. If people are qualifying with the RCZ and using any FF, the best chance might be to use an MR. Catch the FFs at the left-hander at the beginning and end of the long straight and through the bridge section.

I waited. Wasn't going to run them. Put a set of BBS LM-Rs on. Painted them Gold Large flakes, changed headlights to yellow lights and said screw it.

When I saw it waa faster than the C7, even with my screw up, I thought how much "worse" will the rest of the FFs make those other times look.

I did a few Custom Races with the GT-R, Vantage, C7, F-TYPE, NSX and 650S. Naturally FR front tyre was worse than the MRs and the MRs seemed even f&r.

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I don't like defending the meta cars. But there is some logic in these cars dominating tighter tracks like Autopolis and fantasy tracks probably designed with Gr.4 in mind.

In theory St. Croix, Sardegna, Maggiore, Alsace are based on tight European roads. Racing a down-tuned 458, McLaren, Lambo.... would be a disadvantage(?).
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What I mentioned in response to sturk. I think the MRs may pull it off. Qualify with an FF and run an MR.

I may just qualify with the Scirocco and as I said, run the GT-R and see how it goes.
 
O604
I don't like defending the meta cars. But there is some logic in these cars dominating tighter tracks like Autopolis and fantasy tracks probably designed with Gr.4 in mind.

In theory St. Croix, Sardegna, Maggiore, Alsace are based on tight European roads. Racing a down-tuned 458, McLaren, Lambo.... would be a disadvantage(?).
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I just really dislike that hammering the throttle gives you understeer, instead of oversteer.
Before the nerf, the Lambo may have been competitive there.
Definitely not gonna be using any FFs. I may just fire up my Veyron, and cross-check some Peugeots. :mischievous:
 
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I may just fire up my Veyron, and cross-check some Peugeots. :mischievous:
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If I find a dead Pug carcass embedded into a wall, I'll know that you've been there.
 
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@cosme, almost all of this quotation can be seen in a video I posted last month. It's a race C from Big Willow. I damn near has an example of what we have stated since you asked your initial question. I made some mistakes & lost positions. But, I tried to calmly get back on track & didn't force a pass. I admit that on lap 10 after exiting the pits, I almost lost it on the long turn 2 & made a risky pass for the lead on lap 6. I'd made that pass before, but it doesn't excuse the fact that it was a high risk, low reward move. At least I didn't bump the guy out of the way. :lol: Regardless, If I made a mistake, I didn't try to make up for it immediately. On longer race C events, you'll likely have time to make up & lower the amount of damage to your SR/DR. On shorter race A & B, you'll just have to let mistakes (& sadly, bullies) go & try not to let your DR/SR get worse. I've been of the mindset of "an eye for an eye" when someone pushes me out of their way. It has rarely ever helped my DR/SR. It usually leads to you running yourself into a sand trap & rage quitting.

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Thanks for all the tips and the video! What a race and what a rollercoaster of emotions :D
Love videos like this, only the most important parts of the race made the cut and I love the choice of camera when P4 made his way up to P1.
 
Well, if any of you use the Okayron, 261km/h before the braking point. I mean, I pulled the trigger a bit early. It just kept accelerating.

I did a few laps. Wanted to see how fast I could go before the point of no return. Had to stay on the brakes, even while turning left up the hill! Consistent 261km/h.
The FFs don't come close and most rwd top out at 256km/h.
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That's how many laps it took to figure where it's fast. The Village sector is flat thru the "S" bend(only I found to do so).
After braking, before the "S" bend out of the Village, it's stable.

If an FF gets nasty before that straight, you'll catch it and goodnight. Lights out. *Insert Cobra Kai "Finish HIM!" meme*

:indiff: The Ulcercan. This why I didn't want to run it. Didn't make the Top 20 after two runs(was .3 slower than the 20th placed M4). Handling and change of direction, felt better than the GT-R. Second highest top speed with a 258km/h. I think it can touch 259km/h.

Car felt alright, but that time doesn't reflect what I felt. Hey, good luck to those that know how to drive it.
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Edit:Gonna be a tough one for Race C. Stay on the RH all race or use those RMs.

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Oh, that was a sweet victory.
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The 458s looked good. P2 and P7(it became P3 after some carnage with the Vantage and TTs), stayed with me for the first two laps. The Vantage and TTs caught and passed us on RMs. I stayed patient.

When I saw they were only a couple seconds up the road, I pitted Lap 3. Started to claw back time as those three fought one another.

The two 458s were losing a bit of grip. I started reeling them in. Running the whole race on RH isn't the best as I was pretty quick while my RMs were wearing.

The 458s went off in tandem. I had a drag race with the Vantage. I stayed b hind the TT and the Vantage couldn't pass. It got a tow from me and just got alongside before the end of the straight. I gave room and it still bumps me once, twice, into the barrier!
I got up to speed and served it at the entrance to the bridge. It ate the corner that sticks out.
Post race, I told that player they shouldn't have hit me off.

Anyway, first race. Use the FFs to set a time and use what you want for the race. I'll try the Okayron next. ;)

Oh... I couldn't stop the car at the final 90° left-hander. Almost threw the win away. Good thing I had about a 6 second lead by then. :lol:
 
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Yeah, understeer punt is a definite move in race C at the moment. I got it twice in lap 1 and then near the end got a full blown launch into the wall to a dead stop. Several other impatient FF drivers poking a nose inside and simply running you off on exit. Hold the inside forever.

And I didnt know you could use Mediums so I was keeping up with guys on those at the start, but the punt ruined it. :banghead:

My stupidity could have paid off
 
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Last week i reached a milestone, 100 wins ! Nothing beats experience in this game, i was way worsee when i started ,sometimes i watch my old replays, damn i was hot garbage :gtpflag:
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, i used to drive with 2-3tcs all the time, now i dont turn it on at all regardless the car im in ,And yes I’m driving MT now , the extra acceleration out of corners and engine braking for extra rotation gets me every time,👍
Feels surreal that Now I’m closing in 80kp speed
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@Pigems was always my reference since i started so being a couple of tenth faster occasionally these days makes me feel on top of the world .still nowhere near perfect but I'm working on my edges,


And @Mistah_MCA your videos are gold man, keep up the good work :cheers:
 
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Ugh. Got on a lobby where people were simply pushing past and I ended up blasted into penalties twice. Couple of silly accidents, like iffy rejoins that were simply unlucky, then got seriously punted twice for penalties by the same driver. They apologized, but were pushing everyone around like it was a demo derby. Dont know what happened as they are usually clean, but this was a load of garbage.

Go from fighting for top 8 or so to fighting to not be Last. Not my idea of a decent race.

Trying to get a handle on the track but when I get run into a wall on turn exit turn 1 or 2 at the start of each race I dont know what to do. I blocked inside last time and they simply bumped me from behind onto the wall instead.

Edit: And driving clean, avoiding cars I still get a penalty as someone taps the wall and spins out into me. SR dropped from 99 to 60 in the second race. It is a disaster at the moment. Decided to run a legit qualifying lap so maybe tomorrow will be better. Most likely going to have to dawdle around at the back somehow to try and get my SR.:dunce:

Not usually a major issue, but I really like Goodwood and want a nice enough lobby for Wednesday.
 
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Just tried the race C and I really have little idea about what car is best. The FF's look to be comfortably the best for 1 lap pace, so probably want to time trial in the Peugeot RCZ, but I am not sure about the race.

I tried the Dodge Viper, and it seemed pretty good, but I did get overtaken on the 2nd lap by someone in the Pug. The pug though seemed to run out of tyres on lap 3 (and I managed to get back past about half way round), and he pitted at the end of lap 3 for hards. I pitted at the end of lap 4 and when I came out on hards I had about 2 secs of lead, and I kept it about the same until the end of the race.

Maybe the Scirocco or TT might be worth a shot as they will have better tyre wear than the Pug so might last 3 laps on meds? For other cars maybe the Mustang or the Jag as they are both pretty quick?

Tbh the lap is something I have very little practice on, and I seemed to be taking different lines on a number of corners, so I have no idea what is best (apart from using the Pug for TT that is). Looks like it could be a reasonably balanced race.
 
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Just tried the race C and I really have little idea about what car is best. The FF's look to be comfortably the best for 1 lap pace, so probably want to time trial in the Peugeot RCZ, but I am not sure about the race.

I tried the Dodge Viper, and it seemed pretty good, but I did get overtaken on the 2nd lap by someone in the Pug. The pug though seemed to run out of tyres on lap 3 (and I managed to get back past about half way round), and he pitted at the end of lap 3 for hards. I pitted at the end of lap 4 and when I came out on hards I had about 2 secs of lead, and I kept it about the same until the end of the race.

Maybe the Scirocco or TT might be worth a shot as they will have better tyre wear than the Pug so might last 3 laps on meds? For other cars maybe the Mustang or the Jag as they are both pretty quick?

Tbh the lap is something I have very little practice on, and I seemed to be taking different lines on a number of corners, so I have no idea what is best (apart from using the Pug for TT that is). Looks like it could be a reasonably balanced race.
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You can definitely do a solid 3 laps on mediums in the Scirocco, and plenty are doing it in the TT somehow. Corvettes seem to be really solid there at the moment.
 
Lost Sheltie
Just tried the race C and I really have little idea about what car is best. The FF's look to be comfortably the best for 1 lap pace, so probably want to time trial in the Peugeot RCZ, but I am not sure about the race.

I tried the Dodge Viper, and it seemed pretty good, but I did get overtaken on the 2nd lap by someone in the Pug. The pug though seemed to run out of tyres on lap 3 (and I managed to get back past about half way round), and he pitted at the end of lap 3 for hards. I pitted at the end of lap 4 and when I came out on hards I had about 2 secs of lead, and I kept it about the same until the end of the race.

Maybe the Scirocco or TT might be worth a shot as they will have better tyre wear than the Pug so might last 3 laps on meds? For other cars maybe the Mustang or the Jag as they are both pretty quick?

Tbh the lap is something I have very little practice on, and I seemed to be taking different lines on a number of corners, so I have no idea what is best (apart from using the Pug for TT that is). Looks like it could be a reasonably balanced race.
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The GT-R felt good. I'm thinking the NSX and 650S are going to come alive as the week goes on.
The benefit of the GT-R is that it has good top end and it's exit speed with the AWD. Handling on worn tyres is still good, but braking suffers.

I'm soon going to try the Veyron and then jump in the NSX and 650S. We'll see as everyone get to grips(no pun intended) with the layout and what they can get away with.

So far, doesn't look like hitting the walls on your own, gives a penalty. Tokyo is notorious for that. Keeping it clean through the Village and Sectors 4&5, are the key.
 
Tried the TT in race C, it has good pace and if I can do 3 laps on Meds without too much time lost then others will probably get 3 down without any trouble . I ran second to a no-stopper with equal pace on hards though, so it looks as if that might be the strat this week.
 
cosme
Thanks for all the tips and the video! What a race and what a rollercoaster of emotions :D
Love videos like this, only the most important parts of the race made the cut and I love the choice of camera when P4 made his way up to P1.
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That view from 4th wasn’t really for the purpose of showing him gaining the lead. He had the best view of the Megane trying to spin me on that straightaway & all of the action in the turn before. The default replay angle missed the angry yob that thought he could spin me.
 
NoStopN
You can tell who hasn't seen the race or the summary post from the front page of the site. :dunce: Eh, depending on where you start & how bad the carnage is, a no stopper on the hards might be possible.
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Yes, that's possible. I did one just now and lost two spots from the bridge because I answered the phone and ran off. Finished p3,but was 2 seconds ahead before the accident.

Edit: SR back up from 78 to 91 in same race, inspite of running off once. Also made 3500 DR Bucks in 3 races
 
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