"Daily" Race Discussion

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Mc_Yavel
I was looking forward to race from the back in all three events but I did not make the progress I was expecting on monday. Race A is good, put a 1.01.1 and manage to win two races today. One from 3rd and the other from pole.

Race B is like racing on ice, it take smooth input and bravery to attempt an overtake. People seems to be well behave in thoses conditions. 1.01.4 is my time at the moment but I didn't do many races.

Race C is fun but I only race for not finishing last. My QT is 1.33.4 with the 919 and it's only good to fil the back of the grid. Tried the R18 but can't really do the recharging trick, too much work and inconsistent lap time.

DR is droping fast. Lost 5 000 since monday.
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Favorable grids this time of day if that time was putting you P1/P3. A 1:01.0 was getting me gridded 8th last night and I lost 31 SR being ping ponged by people rear ending me, never hit anyone by my own actions. People purposely trying to hit me off the whole race after a melee in T1, not understanding I was a victim myself and wasn’t the cause of a chain reaction. So now I have to run a rehabilitation series FIA race to bring my SR up without a further risk of reset. All this at 45k DR and top split lobby. Total nonsense.

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To me race B has two types of people, those who respect the conditions and the "we will likely both lose unless this pass is clean" situation and drive clean, and then there's those that just hurl it up the inside because a) there's no penalty for contact and b) if your on the outside you're dead meat.

Inside, inside, inside, try anything outside and you get swallowed up peeps.
 
NevilleNobody
To me race B has two types of people, those who respect the conditions and the "we will likely both lose unless this pass is clean" situation and drive clean, and then there's those that just hurl it up the inside because a) there's no penalty for contact and b) if your on the outside you're dead meat.

Inside, inside, inside, try anything outside and you get swallowed up peeps.
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The good news is that the inside, glued to the curb, is probably the fastest line around the toughest turn there, with respect to being dive-bombed (the cut-thru / T2). Just park it on the curb, from entry to exit, if there's any potential of being bombed, and there's not much they can do short of the most egregious intentional shove of, even then, you're typically able to pull away on the left hander anyway. Sure, there's a potential for it in T1, but if you see them coming, stay wide and let them drive on thru to the old course, and you can usually avoid disaster there, too, if you suspect it's coming or catch it in the mirror before you turn in. A good race to pad your DR if you have a decent starting position / QT. But as interesting as it is to try it, the races themselves aren't so exciting enough to keep me glued to the seat for more than few in a row before it's boring. Might try the GTR just for variety before the week's over.
 
Timm Sheehan
How is the 908 doing in those races?
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There was a ~70k DR player in the 908 in one of my races yesterday, he was about a quarter second faster than me per lap (in the TS050) but seemed like his rear tires started going off towards the end and I eventually passed decisively when he got a track limit penalty.

The 908 is very annoying to race against in a hybrid as it's an additional rolling chicane on the exit of every chicane but then have 15-20 kph of overspeed at the braking zones. :dunce:
 
87lc2
Have been running Race C this week as I really like the GR.1 cars. First couple on Monday were rough as far as punting and bad drivers, but its seemed to calm down and had some good races last night.

Running the R18 and have a qualy time of 1:33.2xx which is good for nearly dead last in the rooms I'm in. I usually make it up to about 10th by Lap 2 with people going off and what not. Question is, I keep getting absolutely killed on the straights. I can usually keep my gap to the player behind in the turns, but just getting driven around on the straights and end up finishing somewhere in the 12-14 range. Am I missing something with these cars? I know they're hybrid powered and there might be a trick I'm missing? Just doesn't make any sense, these guys are coming around me like I'm standing still late in the race and my lap times are not suffering too much (running 1:34's early and end up at high 1:35/low 1:36 by the final laps).

Other than that its been fun racing, I find these cars easy and fun to drive (even with the DS4). I run TCS 0 and BB +1 and car feels great even towards the end of the race. Through the 5-6 races I've done I dont think I've even gotten a shortcut penalty and my laps have been consistent, but I feel like somethings off. Maybe I'm just slow and that's that which I can deal with, but it's odd to get reeled in like that constantly.
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For the same car (R18) it is one or more of these things:
  • they have extra hybrid power.
  • they maintained a higher corner speed.
  • they accelerated sooner.
  • they have better tire tread left.
  • they are managing second gear wheelspin better.

Gather data. Record a replay and then get in their car and compare their data to yours. Look carefully at the hybrid power level, corner speed, acceleration points and tire tread.

At Monza you should have sufficient battery power, up to 250 kph cutoff, except for "Curva del Serraglio" (post Lesmos). You can recover power for that straight too but it is difficult.

If you do not have sufficient battery for each straight consider the following:
  • Move to BB+3 you will recover more hybrid power but experience oversteer.
  • Adopt lighter and longer braking. It gains battery power AND helps tire life.
 
KosmoKazi
The good news is that the inside, glued to the curb, is probably the fastest line around the toughest turn there, with respect to being dive-bombed (the cut-thru / T2). Just park it on the curb, from entry to exit, if there's any potential of being bombed, and there's not much they can do short of the most egregious intentional shove of, even then, you're typically able to pull away on the left hander anyway. Sure, there's a potential for it in T1, but if you see them coming, stay wide and let them drive on thru to the old course, and you can usually avoid disaster there, too, if you suspect it's coming or catch it in the mirror before you turn in. A good race to pad your DR if you have a decent starting position / QT. But as interesting as it is to try it, the races themselves aren't so exciting enough to keep me glued to the seat for more than few in a row before it's boring. Might try the GTR just for variety before the week's over.
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Pace is still pretty hot, Q-time is super important, as stated above I went from 1.01.5 to 1.01.4 and gained an average of 3 grid slots.

GTR to me is the better race car, WRX a tad faster but way, way easier to induce a slide which costs what feels like seconds not tenths.
 
I am one of those annoying Group 1 people, I drive the Mazda. You're all over me in corners, accelerate past on exit then I come flying by at 500khm at the end of each straight :lol::lol:
 
KosmoKazi
Favorable grids this time of day if that time was putting you P1/P3. A 1:01.0 was getting me gridded 8th last night and I lost 31 SR being ping ponged by people rear ending me, never hit anyone by my own actions. People purposely trying to hit me off the whole race after a melee in T1, not understanding I was a victim myself and wasn’t the cause of a chain reaction. So now I have to run a rehabilitation series FIA race to bring my SR up without a further risk of reset. All this at 45k DR and top split lobby. Total nonsense.

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Yup, it's terrible how people behave in races lately. Plain dirty or short tempered, it seems everyone thinks we made contact on purpose.

My play hours are during the morning, when I have days off and kinda play all day, I found myself starting lower and lower on the grid has the day pass and also see lot more of dirty driver in late afternoon. There is also a big SR.S crowd at the moment. Almost never play during the evening, it must be terrible.

The morning crowd is often relax, morning coffee with morning races, lot less of people so the split between pole and last is wayyy more than 1 sec (Alien not included). When there is 95% of the grid in the same second, you know it's going to get ugly as soon as someone put a wheel off the racing line.
 
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Two races today for me. One good, one kind of bad and my poor SR dropping like a rock.

Race 1 I start P9, we all manage to get through turn one just fine from my vantage. But, the 2nd chicane I get hit from behind and into the middle of it. Then I get reset before I can rejoin. Down to P18. I don't help myself by not being able to keep it on the track or going too deep on some turns. Thanks to so rage quits and a driver pitting I crawl back into P12. SR down to 82, but still S.

Race 2 I start P6. Mass chaos into turn 1, I gain 2 spots somehow. I go into Lesmo 1 side by side with another driver is a huge mistake it turns out. They don't leave enough room and I go off track dropping to P12. Eventually I get back to P7 and on the last lap I manage to get out of sorts on both chicanes and P8 catches up. I let them by before Ascari and fall in line for some draft. I try and make a move on the outside of the Parabolica. Not an ideal move, but I thought it was good at the time. Anyway, P9 is also in our draft and absolutely sends it as seen below.



I sneak by for P7. Post race the driver that was hit called my pass a cheap move, and left so I couldn't explain what happened. I lose 7 more SR and sit at 75 (A).

Now, while the race is challenging, it's very frustrating when you get stuck behind the slower drivers. I believe most of my SR loss is from getting into other drivers in the rear when they brake sooner then I expect. I should be able to somewhat anticipate some of their actions, but it's hard to anticipate chaos. It's a bad idea, but I'll run one race as an experiment tomorrow and see where my SR sits after that. It will probably be the end of the week for my racing.
 
KosmoKazi
Favorable grids this time of day if that time was putting you P1/P3. A 1:01.0 was getting me gridded 8th last night and I lost 31 SR being ping ponged by people rear ending me, never hit anyone by my own actions. People purposely trying to hit me off the whole race after a melee in T1, not understanding I was a victim myself and wasn’t the cause of a chain reaction. So now I have to run a rehabilitation series FIA race to bring my SR up without a further risk of reset. All this at 45k DR and top split lobby. Total nonsense.

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Did the guy in 4th hit you or someone else? He hit half of the grid in a daily race which we took part today. And he ran me off track in the last corner in last lap to get a position.
 
Well after finding my pace in race B I did quite well, up to my highest ever DR of 38,900. A little surprising as I dont quite have the pace I need but with my qualy lap I am top 5 now, rather than bottom 5, makes all the difference.

A lot of elbows out, each race has 2 to 3 guys just throwing it up the inside and pin balling the pack, super annoying.
 
Norrin Radd
ust set up another account as I'm trying something out, but Kudosprime doesn't want to play with it, any ideas? I know @Milouse comes here sometimes, but it's not a big enough issue to make a fuss.
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Indeed, there is a hole in Gran Turismo profiles (from #15,786,707 to #15,787,032) large enough to trick K' server that ids stopped at #15,786,706.
I just manually put things on rails again ;)

It shouldn't require more than 1 hour for a new profile to be found on K' profile search, unless something has gone wrong.
 
Milouse
Indeed, there is a hole in Gran Turismo profiles (from #15,786,707 to #15,787,032) large enough to trick K' server that ids stopped at #15,786,706.
I just manually put things on rails again ;)

It shouldn't require more than 1 hour for a new profile to be found on K' profile search, unless something has gone wrong.
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It's there now, great work thanks for everything you do.
 
Not trying to be snarky or anything, but is there some reason people find it impossible take turn 1 in race A this week? I know it is bad on most weeks, but tonight I've had 3 races in a row where masses of people all drive off at turn 1, leaving me trundling along strangely alone.

These are A and A+ drivers, some ahead of me on the grid, and simply driving clear off. Not complaining that much as it made for some eerily cruisy wins, but I just didn't think it was that hard. Despite the inherent carnage in this race I've been enjoying it for about 5 out of 7 races. The other 2 leave mental scars that may never heal. But the rest are mostly good. Did threaten a regular sketchy driver after they signed.ply shoved me wide on the final turn after being unable to pass me cleanly all race. Mentioned how they were known and had a reputation for this mess. Oddly they didn't enter the next few.
 
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787B is really good in Race C. Only problem was, the room was laggy. The car is of course excellent on the straights, but from the entry of the parabolica and accelerating the whole way through exit, it pulls away from all the hybrids. Wasn't too bad on worn tyres either. Was able to keep a 2-3.5 second gap ahead of the car behind, in the final laps. Then, I just accelerated too hard at T1 exit. Allowed the 919 to catch up. I let it go after the PZ. Saw nearly a top 10 run in the initial laps, but cars were ghosting. Some were way ahead and then right in front of me.
Oh well, one more Race B in the Atenza and I'm done for the night.
 
Redneckchef
Not trying to be snarky or anything, but is there some reason people find it impostor take turn 1 in race A this week? I know it is bad on most weeks, but tonight I've had 3 races in a row where masses of people all drive off at turn 1, leaving me trundling along strangely alone.

These are A and A+ drivers, some ahead of me on the grid, and simply driving clear off. Not complaining that much as it made for some eerily cruisy wins, but I just didn't think it was that hard. Despite the inherent carnage in this race I've been enjoying it for about 5 out of 7 races. The other 2 leave mental scars that may never heal. But the rest are mostly good. Did threaten a regular sketchy driver after they signed.ply shoved me wide on the final turn after being unable to pass me cleanly all race. Mentioned how they were known and had a reputation for this mess. Oddly they didn't enter the next few.
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I guess some people can't remember it is 150m and not the usual 100m. The car needs a parachute to stop.
 
Gotta admit, Race A is a pretty fun combination, at least for qualifying. I haven’t tried actually racing yet, but my best time so far is 1:01.185 - already in the top 500 for my region, even after a hiatus lasting a little over a month! But my Kudos’ target time is as low as 1:01.144. I wonder how I can beat it - or have I hit my limit? Given that the Countach is an MR car, I’ve definitely benfitted from having a forward BB, and I think it was specifically at -4 when I set my best time. I’m also not sure if having TCS on would help at all, though I did set it at 1 just in case.
 
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MIE1992
Gotta admit, Race A is a pretty fun combination, at least for qualifying. I haven’t tried actually racing yet, but my best time so far is 1:01.185 - already in the top 500 for my region, even after a hiatus lasting a little over a month! But my Kudos’ target time is as low as 1:01.144. I wonder how I can beat it - or have I hit my limit? Given that the Countach is an MR car, I’ve definitely benfitted from having a forward BB, and I think it was specifically at -4 when I set my best time. I’m also not sure if having TCS on would help at all, though I did set it at 1 just in case.
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I'm really liking this combo also. I think you may have the BB too high, it makes the car a little too stiff IMO. I started at -2 but was faster at -1. I'm currently at 100.2xx, but feel there is still a couple tenths there if I can get more consistent on the last turn. Check out @Mistah_MCA race guide here. You'll find his guides are helpful.
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Chevy Heavy
I'm really liking this combo also. I think you may have the BB too high, it makes the car a little too stiff IMO. I started at -2 but was faster at -1. I'm currently at 100.2xx, but feel there is still a couple tenths there if I can get more consistent on the last turn. Check out @Mistah_MCA race guide here. You'll find his guides are helpful.
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Kindly stop watching those videos.

I'm trying to catch up. :lol:
 
NevilleNobody
Cannot turn a time in that car TO SAVE MY LIFE. I do a lap, felt clean, felt fast, good apex, good exits...... 1.02.9. Where does 1.5 seconds go?
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Yeah, it's not as fun a car to drive, as when I first started playing and in past FIA races. The car doesn't tuck in, off-throttle, like the Scirocco & Mustang. Have to get on the throttle early, to bring the rear around.

My fastest is a 1:01.6xx. Slower than my 1:01.187 qualy in the Evo.
 

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