Do you believe in God?

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Do you believe in god?

  • Of course, without him nothing would exist!

    Votes: 626 30.5%
  • Maybe.

    Votes: 368 17.9%
  • No way!

    Votes: 1,059 51.6%

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A staunch believer in Pratt's hypothesis, eh?

But even Pratt's hypothesis allows for the existence of low density "roots" in mountainous regions (just a different kind of root). And nevertheless, Airy's hypothesis is still valid in explaining how the crust maintains regional isostatic equilibrium, in fact it is considered a far better model when explaining continental mountain ranges.

So yes, mountains do have "roots". Have you ever studied geology?
Yes I have. There's quite the gulf between the concept of increasing lithospheric thickness, both up into mountain ranges and down into the upper mantle, in orogenic mountainous regions and:
every mountain on earth has a root that goes into the earth several kilometers.
Mountain ranges may have deeper regions of lithosphere simply due to buoyancy - isostasy is just Pascal's Law applied to the body of the crust buoyed by the fluid of the mantle - but individual mountains do not have a mountain root akin to a tree's or a tooth's root.
 
Yes, yes, yes, no need to explain basic tectonics. It is a bit of a mix up. I saw your post:
Mountains don't have roots.
Which is in many ways a false statement. I got excited and had to correct you. Only later did I read back in the thread to discover the true nature of what was being discussed. Yes, his link is pseudoscience and not geologically valid whatsoever.
 
It was missing the word "individual" - but that should have been implied from the post to which I was responding...
 
Lighten up, bro! :lol: Why so serious?

If your comment was posted out of ignorance of human evolution and the species you sit in as a human that's one thing. If however (as you now seem to be implying) it was humour based upon insulting and derogatory terms to any group then its an AUP matter and will see you receive a formal warning.

So clarification from yourself is needed to identify if you are simply being ignorant or abusive, from that point on we will see how it gets handled.

However please do not consider the need to clarify your statement as optional, its not.
 
You do understand, however, that there is a difference between humans and non-humans, don't you?

I only say this because, just by reading what Famine wrote, you don't even start to grasp what REALLY makes us different from all other living beings.


PS - Including vegetables.

Not quite sure what you're getting at, care to explain for me? :p
 
If someone is not religious and is against it, do you think they should be able to say things like "oh lord" and "oh god" etc?
 
Those phrases have become such a staple in most people's vocabulary that there is usually little to no religious meaning in them.
 
But isn't it hypocritical when they say "religion is stupid" and then they say phrases involving God, Jesus, prophets etc?
 
No. It would be hypocritical if they said they didn't believe in a god and then prayed to that god every night. These are just phrases.
 
Here is another miracle of Quran for those who think. Quran has been revealed since 1400 years, how could you thinkthat a man could look inSide a woman during the developpment of a man? Think by yourself.

Surah 23
12. And indeed We created man out of an extract of clay (water and earth).

13. Thereafter We made him as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge) (and lodged it) in a safe lodging.

14. Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of creators.

Jeith L.Moore was one of the best scientist in anatomy and embryology. He has published a book "the developing human" which was considered in america as the best book of only one solo author. He has also received many awards.
He has accepted islam and said that he was happy to clarify the book of God with his books. And he says that the most simple way to describe the development of a human is wrote in the Quran.
 
Here is another miracle of Quran for those who think. Quran has been revealed since 1400 years, how could you thinkthat a man could look inSide a woman during the developpment of a man? Think by yourself.
Epigenesis, first described by Aristotle in his book "On the Generation of Humans" (as a competitor theory to the homunculus) six hundred years before Islam existed - and coincidentally translated into the Arabic Kitab al-hayawan at around the same time as the Qu'ran was written.

Does that make Aristotle a superior prophet to Mohammed?
Think by yourself.
Quite so.

If you're just here to post unsupported and outdated vague references by the Qu'ran to science and medicine already known about at the time again, you're gonna have a bad time.
 
Epigenesis, first described by Aristotle in his book "On the Generation of Humans" (as a competitor theory to the homunculus) six hundred years before Islam existed - and coincidentally translated into the Arabic Kitab al-hayawan at around the same time as the Qu'ran was written.

Does that make Aristotle a superior prophet to Mohammed?Quite so.

If you're just here to post unsupported and outdated vague references by the Qu'ran to science and medicine already known about at the time again, you're gonna have a bad time.

Strange, I don't find anything of him on internet that he wrote a book about embriology. Could you give me a link please?
 
Okay.

The Latin title is "De generatione animalium". The English title is "On the Generation of Animals". The Arabic "Kitab al-hayawan", which dates back to at least 800AD, is a translation of three works by Aristotle called "The History of Animals", "On The Parts of Animals" and "On the Generation of Animals", each of which was written around 350BC.
 
The problem is "oh my Flying Spaghetti Monster" doesn't really roll off the tongue as easily as "oh my god" does.
 
how could you thinkthat a man could look inSide a woman during the developpment of a man? Think by yourself.

How do people discover things like this?

Let me give you a clue, its involves dead people (hopefully) and knives.
 
Okay.

The Latin title is "De generatione animalium". The English title is "On the Generation of Animals". The Arabic "Kitab al-hayawan", which dates back to at least 800AD, is a translation of three works by Aristotle called "The History of Animals", "On The Parts of Animals" and "On the Generation of Animals", each of which was written around 350BC.

Ok... Here is the book... But what does the book says? I also don't find it
 
DK
The problem is "oh my Flying Spaghetti Monster" doesn't really roll off the tongue as easily as "oh my god" does.

Yes, but that's the trick. It's too ridiculous to say it this way, so you stop using it completely. :D
 
CodeName
Ok... Here is the book... But what does the book says? I also don't find it

The very first link on that search gives you a Web copy of the book. How about you follow that, read it and learn something.
 
Scaff
How do people discover things like this?

Let me give you a clue, its involves dead people (hopefully) and knives.

A lot of that kind of thing was very much banned by just about every major religion until relatively recently, which is part of my "religion does nothing to advance mankind " thing.

Knowing about babies forming isn't difficult. The process of how it all starts is obvious to all and has been for ever. As for the later stages, the results of miscarriages give a good few clues. It's hardly some amazing revaluation.
 
I really am amazed with all the misconceptions endelessly repeated without critical thought. Hey, it's wikipedia, not a 100% reliable source, but at least this excerpt should give people, especially religion-haters, something to think about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissection
Unlike pagan Rome, Christian Europe did not exercise a universal prohibition of the dissection and autopsy of the human body and such examinations were carried out regularly from at least the 13th century.[2][13][14] It has even been suggested that Christian theology contributed significantly to the revival of human dissection and autopsy by providing a new socio-religious and cultural context in which the human cadaver was no longer seen as sacrosanct.[2]
Throughout history, the dissection of human cadavers for medical education has experienced various cycles of legalization and proscription in different countries. Anatomization has even been ordered as a form of punishment (as, for example, in 1805 at Massachusetts to James Halligan and Dominic Daley after their public hanging).[citation needed] An edict of the 1163 Council of Tours, and an early 14th century decree of Pope Boniface VIII have mistakenly been identified as prohibiting dissection and autopsy,[15][16] but no universal prohibition of dissection or autopsy was exercised during the Middle Ages. Rather, the era witnessed the revival of an interest in medical studies, and a renewal in human dissection and autopsy.[17] Some European countries began legalizing the dissection of executed criminals for educational purposes in the late 13th and early 14th centuries, and Mondino de Liuzzi carried out the first recorded public dissection around 1315. Vesalius in the 16th century carried out numerous dissections in the process of performing some of the most extensive anatomical investigations up to his time, but was attacked frequently by other physicians for his disagreement with Galen's studies of human anatomy. For many years it was assumed that Vesalius's pilgrimage to Palestine was an escape from pressures of the Inquisition brought as a result of his work with cadavers. Today this is generally considered to be without foundation and is dismissed by modern biographers.[18]
The Catholic church is known to have ordered an autopsy on conjoined twins Joana and Melchiora Ballestero in Hispanola in 1533 to determine whether they shared a soul. They found that there were two distinct hearts, and hence two souls, based on the ancient Greek philosopher Empedocles, who believed the soul resided in the heart.[19]
 
Aristotle didn't describe the embryology. He has only talked about an egg inside the woman body. He has also said that the sperm of a human contains the body of his child which contain in his sperm ( of the child ) the body of the future child etc... Which he thaught was the case of Adam that he contained all human beeing and Eve that ovaries contain the seeds of all human beings.
The Quran describes very precisely what is happening during the act of the formation of the baby in the embryo.
 
Aristotle didn't describe the embryology. He has only talked about an egg inside the woman body. He has also said that the sperm of a human contains the body of his child which contain in his sperm ( of the child ) the body of the future child etc... Which he thaught was the case of Adam that he contained all human beeing and Eve that ovaries contain the seeds of all human beings.
The Quran describes very precisely what is happening during the act of the formation of the baby in the embryo.

Seriously read a little more....

How, then, does it make the other parts? Either all the parts, as heart, lung, liver, eye, and all the rest, come into being together or in succession, as is said in the verse ascribed to Orpheus, for there he says that an animal comes into being in the same way as the knitting of a net. That the former is not the fact is plain even to the senses, for some of the parts are clearly visible as already existing in the embryo while others are not; that it is not because of their being too small that they are not visible is clear, for the lung is of greater size than the heart, and yet appears later than the heart in the original development. Since, then, one is earlier and another later, does the one make the other, and does the later part exist on account of the part which is next to it, or rather does the one come into being only after the other? I mean, for instance, that it is not the fact that the heart, having come into being first, then makes the liver, and the liver again another organ, but that the liver only comes into being after the heart, and not by the agency of the heart, as a man becomes a man after being a boy, not by his agency. An explanation of this is that, in all the productions of Nature or of art, what already exists potentially is brought into being only by what exists actually; therefore if one organ formed another the form and the character of the later organ would have to exist in the earlier, e.g. the form of the liver in the heart. And otherwise also the theory is strange and fictitious.

...second link and less than two minutes scan reading to find a lot more than you have just stated as if it were fact. Rather he claimed the exact opposite, being the source of Epigenesis which refutes Preformationism, and as such the source of embryology.

Oh and read some more

None of which gets away from the point that I made earlier and you have (not surprisingly) ignored....


CodeName
how could you thinkthat a man could look inSide a woman during the developpment of a man? Think by yourself.
How do people discover things like this?

Scaff
Let me give you a clue, its involves dead people (hopefully) and knives.

...just like the 'mystery' of the oceans you tried to claim earlier as a miracle, this is no miracle but rather knowledge that was around at the time. The only people claiming it as a miracle are the ones actively seeking one.
 
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