Do you believe in God?

[Tic Tach]

You know you might get a better response if you didn't act as if you were speaking down on people are some how worse off than you.

Just a thought to consider.

Sorry, I fail to see that in my post. Just calling it like I see it.

 

[TankAss95]

Many people are waking up from the delusion. The only difference between them and those who are still christians, is courage and intellectual honesty.

First off about that faith thing:
http://whatisfaith.com/faith145.html#faith145
We all practice some kind of faith, in fact, you have done it 1000s of times before. We live by faith each day. It keeps us alive, wether your religious or not.

And about the whole concept of God. A belief in God doesn't have to be based on any religion, it could just be a belief that there is some kind of order in the universe by an above power. Believing in such thing requires logic to even comprehend and consideration to evaluate the plausibility of such idea. If such idea is an illusion, then perhaps many other things in this world are, too.

 

[El]

I think it was Morgan Freeman who said something like: "Bitch I aint no man of god, im a man of faith."

Or something like that.

 

[Tic Tach]

First off about that faith thing:
http://whatisfaith.com/faith145.html#faith145
We all practice some kind of faith, in fact, you have done it 1000s of times before. We live by faith each day. It keeps us alive, wether your religious or not.

No. What you are refering to is trust, like I trust that a chair will hold me up. But that is derived from logic, reason, evidence and past experience.

 

[shmogt]

No, we have a sense of humor. Most people who've been around a while know this about me.

I was more pointing out your last bit there, about how "well, my edit was before your post so" because, often times, people can start on a reply, get distracted, finish it up. And then the post time and the time you did your edit aren't so important.

Stop trying to be clever. You aren't doing a great job with it.

Stop talking. If I didn't say about the edit you would of said about how I ended it after the fact. Sorry trying to cover all my ground. Didn't know that is what super immature people do. Also before I posted that someone quoted my first post without the edit, but after I added it when I already explained I knew he was joking.

 

[El]

No. What you are refering to is trust, like I trust that a chair will hold me up. But that is derived from logic, reason, evidence and past experience.

Hmmm...Trust, faith...We need faith to get up in the morning, early humans needed faith to stay togheter as a group and survive. We needed faith to win wars, survive epedimics.

And to answer the thread question: No. I do not believe in god. And im happy there is no such thing.

And one more thing. Evangelical atheists haven´t really understood the concept of the whole idea. Healthy discussion is however welcomed.

 

[Tic Tach]

We need faith to get up in the morning, early humans needed faith to stay togheter as a group and survive. We needed faith to win wars, survive epedimics.

Wha?

 

[El]

Wha?

Facepalm, man.

 

[shmogt]

Wha?

He's saying there's a lot of things you don't know the outcome to some more dangerous than other and that we all need faith to believe we can do it.

 

[Tic Tach]

He's saying there's a lot of things you don't know the outcome to some more dangerous than other and that we all need faith to believe we can do it.

Again, I feel that trust or hope would be a more apt word than faith.

 

[shmogt]

Again, I feel that trust or hope would be a more apt word than faith.

Lol there all in the same boat. It's called confidence in yourself.

 

[McLaren]

Stop talking. If I didn't say about the edit you would of said about how I ended it after the fact. Sorry trying to cover all my ground. Didn't know that is what super immature people do. Also before I posted that someone quoted my first post without the edit, but after I added it when I already explained I knew he was joking.

Pot. Meet kettle.

 

[Exorcet]

We all practice some kind of faith, in fact, you have done it 1000s of times before. We live by faith each day. It keeps us alive, wether your religious or not.

I don't really recall.

The Sun rise? Evidence that has been gathered suggests it'll be there for a couple more years and that it would take something pretty big to shift the Earth from it's orbit. Could we wake up tomorrow and find the Sun 30484744848384757487483 miles away? Yes. Is anyone going to build an underground shelter in preparation for this? I hope not.

That my home won't be invaded by military forces? I'm not aware of any crimes I've committed against any nation, or any strategic resources under my home that might spark a conflict. In the case of a foreign military attacking, evidence suggests that my own country's military would step in before it would become my own personal problem.

That my computer works? Most things I buy seem to work. It's worked day after day for a while now. My family has a much older one. It still works. Studies I read when buying my computer suggested that there was a less than 50% chance of it malfunctioning before 2 or 3 years.

It's not faith if you're using evidence or reasoning. If you think my examples were unfair in some way, you can provide your own.

 

[Azuremen]

Pot. Meet kettle.

At least the kettle is the cool kid in this, right?

Cause I am the cool kid.

Tic Tach, calling it like you see it isn't an excuse for a complete lack of tact and insulting the beliefs of much of the world. Word choice matters, more so when you want to produce a compelling argument that won't just irritate those you are talking with.

shmogt, there is no reason to continue talking with you, as you repeatedly fail to perform some introspection. Or much thought behind your posts.

 

[jagdrag77]

No I don't believe in god. There's too much suffering in this world...

 

[shmogt]

At least the kettle is the cool kid in this, right?

Cause I am the cool kid.

Tic Tach, calling it like you see it isn't an excuse for a complete lack of tact and insulting the beliefs of much of the world. Word choice matters, more so when you want to produce a compelling argument that won't just irritate those you are talking with.

shmogt, there is no reason to continue talking with you, as you repeatedly fail to perform some introspection. Or much thought behind your posts.

lol the majority of my post say stop judging others and if you don't agree that is your opinion. Of course the first thing you do is hate on me as a person as how I worded something rather than the actual thought. Now claiming you are the cool kid, the one who's right, there's no way anything you say could be wrong. Get over yourself. I thought about what I said a lot, but was forced to defend all the little things which caused it to become harder to understand. I'm over it, after like 25 pages you will never understand lol.

Tankass wtf is your picture lol?

 

[Famine]

There fine not caring about all the answers and just living day to day.

No, we're fine caring so much about all the answers that we want to get them right rather than just accepting any old explanation because it's available now.

 

[McLaren]

At least the kettle is the cool kid in this, right?

Cause I am the cool kid.

If you were the kettle, you would be the Bugatti one.

 

[Strittan]

http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/carolrb/christianity/christian_beliefs.html

^Information supplied above.

What are you trying to prove with that link?

I'll try to ask you this one more time, ok? What are your thoughts on God if he exist? Why is he not helping those who really need help? Does he have any power to help out at all? Again, your thoughts. Do not provide another useless link, please.

 

[TankAss95]

What are you trying to prove with that link?

I'll try to ask you this one more time, ok? What are your thoughts on God if he exist? Why is he not helping those who really need help? Does he have any power to help out at all? Again, your thoughts. Do not provide another useless link, please.

The Bible says there is only one God: "I am the Lord, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God," (Isaiah 45:5). Yet, the Bible teaches that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each called God.

God is a therefore a trinity that consists of the Father, Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

I believe god is an eternal being who created and preserves the universe. I believe he speaks, sees, hears, acts, and loves.

God does give help to those who need help - he offers salvation to those who have sinned.

I think I have answered all of your questions. I apologise if I have missed any out, if I have, please highlight them again.

Oh, and I was told to send more links. Wether you think they are useless is irrelevant. Many of the questions you have asked were actually in the site.

 

[Strittan]

The Bible says there is only one God: "I am the Lord, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God," (Isaiah 45:5). Yet, the Bible teaches that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each called God.

God is a therefore a trinity that consists of the Father, Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.

I believe god is an eternal being who created and preserves the universe. I believe he speaks, sees, hears, acts, and loves.

God does give help to those who need help - he offers salvation to those who have sinned.

I think I have answered all of your questions. I apologise if I have missed any out, if I have, please highlight them again.

Oh, and I was told to send more links. Wether you think they are useless is irrelevant. Many of the questions you have asked were actually in the site.

Nothing of what you say make sense though. They're just wild guesses.

He created the universe you say. Wow, that's pretty impressive. What's less impressive is that he allows earthquakes, floodings, cancer, AIDS and lack of food to kill millions of innocent people each year. Don't you find this the least bit ironic?

I'll repeat what I said a few pages back. If God exist, he seems to be nothing but evil. I don't blame him though, because I don't think he exist.

 

[TankAss95]

Nothing of what you say make sense though. They're just wild guesses.

He created the universe you say. Wow, that's pretty impressive. What's less impressive is that he allows earthquakes, floodings, cancer, AIDS and lack of food to kill millions of innocent people each year. Don't you find this the least bit ironic?

I'll repeat what I said a few pages back. If God exist, he seems to be nothing but evil. I don't blame him though, because I don't think he exist.

If you are so sure then why are you even asking then?

 

[Strittan]

If you are so sure then why are you even asking then?

I want to know what makes you so sure that he does exist.

One more time:

He created the universe you say. Wow, that's pretty impressive. What's less impressive is that he allows earthquakes, floodings, cancer, AIDS and lack of food to kill millions of innocent people each year. Don't you find this the least bit ironic?

 

[HP]

Nothing of what you say make sense though. They're just wild guesses.

He created the universe you say. Wow, that's pretty impressive. What's less impressive is that he allows earthquakes, floodings, cancer, AIDS and lack of food to kill millions of innocent people each year. Don't you find this the least bit ironic?

I'll repeat what I said a few pages back. If God exist, he seems to be nothing but evil. I don't blame him though, because I don't think he exist.

The answer to that will be that people kill people not God...

I'll say this though: if there is a god he sure is one sick puppy that's for sure.

Why allow us to suffer as we do when he could provide us all with a perfect existence now?

He can provide everything we need to live comfortably & in complete harmony & bliss. He could remove malice, hate, crime & all the nastiness but instead tells us that in order to gain bliss we must accept his existence, sans evidence, until we die & then we get the good stuff but, until then, we must suffer in a constant state of apology? That's bollocks!

 

[Hun200kmh]

You measure God by men's criteria Strittan. I don't blame you, since you don't believe in Him it's only logical that you do that.

In short, Your reasoning works like this.
1. God doesn't exist.
2. If He exists, he is evil.
3. Therefore, He doesn't exist.
4. Because if He existed he would be good and He would care about us.


This is a very interesting discussion if you consider the God that Christians, Jews and Muslims believe in. Because they consider him good and just.

But it adds NOTHING to the discussion of the existence of God. As in, the existence of a creator. God, Bad, or indifferent. After all, if God created the Universe, what possible meaning can we have, we, humans, in a miserable piece of rock circling a miserably small star, in one galaxy with nothing special about it ....

I say the hypothesis of a indifferent Creator of the Universe (or even that we are just a scientific experiment He checks every gazillion years to see how it's going) may be depressing at best. But all you say cannot contradict the hypothesis. The question here isn't "Do you believe in a good God?"

But I understand, this thread is placed in gtplanet. Gtplanet is overwhelmingly populated by persons from societies with a christian cultural heritage. Therefore, when you think about God, you think about the Christian God.

 

[Strittan]

The answer to that will be that people kill people not God...

I'll say this though: if there is a god he sure is one sick puppy that's for sure.

Why allow us to suffer as we do when he could provide us all with a perfect existence now?

Yeah, that's my point. Why is it that christians only give God credit for the good things in life? He has the power to create the universe, but not to help a starving child in Africa.

God doesn't kill people, people kill people. God doesn't help people, people help people.

You measure God by men's criteria Strittan. I don't blame you, since you don't believe in Him it's only logical that you do that.

In short, Your reasoning works like this.
1. God doesn't exist.
2. If He exists, he is evil.
3. Therefore, He doesn't exist.
4. Because if He existed he would be good and He would care about us.

I have never said God is good. Christians do, and I'm pretty sure the bible does too. Which is why I question it, because he doesn't seem good to me.

 

[TankAss95]

Yeah, that's my point. Why is it that christians only give God credit for the good things in life? He has the power to create the universe, but not to help a starving child in Africa.

God doesn't kill people, people kill people. God doesn't help people, people help people.

I have never said God is good. Christians do, and I'm pretty sure the bible does too. Which is why I question it, because he doesn't seem good to me.

Read Genesis chapter 1-3 for answers.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Read Genesis chapter 1-3 for answers.

You're starting to post Tic Tach style. Don't, it's a sign of weakness, I'm sure you can write your own replies.

 

[Strittan]

Read Genesis chapter 1-3 for answers.

In fact, I'm thinking of maybe reading the bible sometime. I bet my balls I'll believe even less in God after I've read it, if I ever will.

 

[TankAss95]

In fact, I'm thinking of maybe reading the bible sometime. I bet my balls I'll believe even less in God after I've read it, if I ever will.

Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters. Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God.
-Hebrews 3:12 (NLT)

I encourage you to look up a bible reading plan if you ever decide to read the Bible. You can find them on the Internet. It basically breaks the Bible down into digestible chunks that you are able to digest if you like. I encourage anyone to read the Bible, but just picking it up and reading from Genesis to Revelation will most likely just leave you confused and exhausted.
It fills my heart with so much pain that so many people dismiss Christianity due to the surrounding response or previous events in their lives, but try and take it from my point of view. I'm trying to help others and lead them into salvation, not because I am being a troll or by ignorance, but by kindness of heart. I really want to help people, rather than just be an annoyance in which I feel I'm being in this thread.