Do you believe in God?

[shmogt]

No that's not really what i'm saying. I believe in Catholicism the most out of any religion and it feels right to me by far! My parents never pressured me into any religion. It's just that when your born into a family the first thing you know about religion is what your parents first tell you. So i or anyone else im sure would believe what they were traditionally brought into than anything else. And i WANT to be a catholic, i dont believe in anything else. Its just hard sometimes to grasp onto if its really real or not!

Lol your questions are the same as everyone in this thread. Who knows what the truth is. What I said is just how I feel about it all. I had the same style religious life as you where family is Christian and I than became one. I'm done with all the Christian stuff now and it was worrying at first as to if my life would be worse or not etc. My life is pretty much the same as it was before only I'm even happier because I don't have that extra stress about if Gods gonna judge me on something I do. If you like Christian views cool continue with it, but don't worry too much about the details as what parts are real and what are fake. Just live life and see what was right when you're dead like everyone else.

 

[Crushed]

Lol your questions are the same as everyone in this thread. Who knows what the truth is. What I said is just how I feel about it all. I had the same style religious life as you where family is Christian and I than became one. I'm done with all the Christian stuff now and it was worrying at first as to if my life would be worse or not etc. My life is pretty much the same as it was before only I'm even happier because I don't have that extra stress about if Gods gonna judge me on something I do. If you like Christian views cool continue with it, but don't worry too much about the details as what parts are real and what are fake. Just live life and see what was right when you're dead like everyone else.

True that 👍

 

[Antonisbob]

Same with me, it's all phony-bologna.

 

[Crispy]

Just to throw this at everyone.

There's no such thing as God, there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear. Everything (like science, religion, math, language arts, etc.) aren't real, it's just a set of principles setup by humans to try and understand what we are, which given what I just said, is nothing. Therefore, in a sense, we created God?

I'm not high, just wanted to throw something interesting out.

 

[HP]

Just to throw this at everyone.

There's no such thing as God, there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear. Everything (like science, religion, math, language arts, etc.) aren't real, it's just a set of principles setup by humans to try and understand what we are, which given what I just said, is nothing. Therefore, in a sense, we created God?

I'm not high, just wanted to throw something interesting out.

That's some deep sheet right there, you will get some harsh comments from both sides bro but not from me. One of the most intelligent things written in nearly 5000 posts 👍

 

[huskeR32]

That's some deep sheet right there, you will get some harsh comments from both sides bro but not from me. One of the most intelligent things written in nearly 5000 posts 👍

 

[shmogt]

Just to throw this at everyone.

There's no such thing as God, there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear. Everything (like science, religion, math, language arts, etc.) aren't real, it's just a set of principles setup by humans to try and understand what we are, which given what I just said, is nothing. Therefore, in a sense, we created God?

I'm not high, just wanted to throw something interesting out.

Lol good luck man I tried saying stuff like this and got screamed at bad.

 

[Strittan]

Lol good luck man I tried saying stuff like this and got screamed at bad.

You got screamed at? When? All I saw was people trying to explain things to you, but you refused to try and understand.

 

[Tic Tach]

......there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear.

What a mess.

Conflicting assertions:

a) There's no such thing as science.

b) Only what we can touch, smell, see, hear, is real.

Yet, science is the extrapolation of what we observe through those very senses.

 

[Crushed]

Just to throw this at everyone.

There's no such thing as God, there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear. Everything (like science, religion, math, language arts, etc.) aren't real, it's just a set of principles setup by humans to try and understand what we are, which given what I just said, is nothing. Therefore, in a sense, we created God?

I'm not high, just wanted to throw something interesting out.

LOL so we should stop going to school and become hippies? 👍

 

[sumbrownkid]

No that's not really what i'm saying. I believe in Catholicism the most out of any religion and it feels right to me by far! My parents never pressured me into any religion. It's just that when your born into a family the first thing you know about religion is what your parents first tell you. So i or anyone else im sure would believe what they were traditionally brought into than anything else. And i WANT to be a catholic, i dont believe in anything else. Its just hard sometimes to grasp onto if its really real or not!

Hence why some people say you must have faith in religion and not just believe it.

 

[Crushed]

Hence why some people say you must have faith in religion and not just believe it.

As well as every other religion

 

[shmogt]

You got screamed at? When? All I saw was people trying to explain things to you, but you refused to try and understand.

Yes but they all had what I was saying wrong. So their explanations had nothing to do with what I was saying. I tried to explain more but everyone was too focused on proving me wrong on stuff I wasn't arguing about. It's over now don't worry about it.

 

[Azuremen]

Just to throw this at everyone.

There's no such thing as God, there is no such thing as science. No such thing of anything besides what we can physically touch, smell, see, hear. Everything (like science, religion, math, language arts, etc.) aren't real, it's just a set of principles setup by humans to try and understand what we are, which given what I just said, is nothing. Therefore, in a sense, we created God?

I'm not high, just wanted to throw something interesting out.

You mean being a nihilist? Because science is just the study of what we can touch, hear, feel and see.

That's some deep sheet right there, you will get some harsh comments from both sides bro but not from me. One of the most intelligent things written in nearly 5000 posts 👍

Hardly. Though with your username, I'm not too surprised.

Yes but they all had what I was saying wrong. So their explanations had nothing to do with what I was saying. I tried to explain more but everyone was too focused on proving me wrong on stuff I wasn't arguing about. It's over now don't worry about it.

You seem to think you are some sort of special snowflake no one can understand because we aren't trying.

Perhaps you should consider explaining yourself better, because like many of us pointed out, no one could find anything of merit in what you were saying. At all. I still think you are just a nihilist in denial.

 

[Strittan]

Yes but they all had what I was saying wrong. So their explanations had nothing to do with what I was saying. I tried to explain more but everyone was too focused on proving me wrong on stuff I wasn't arguing about. It's over now don't worry about it.

That's probably because you twisted your questions around each time you got an answer.

 

[shmogt]

The problem was as azurmen pointed out they think stuff about me and judged me not my views or questions. I tried to explain more but someone would ask something and I had to address them which kept making me stray from the original points. Lol like someone tells me questioning Why is not important in the reason to what everyone is doing here and asking How we got here is better. I obviously want to know How as well and I don't really care if you think How is a better question to ask because this is what I think. I just wanted other views, theories, or similar questions but of course know one believed me and just thinks I'm dumb for thinking different. Again it's cool tho this is not the right people to discuss it with and is tough to address everyone's comments in type form as it takes much longer as opposed to sitting around a table and talking.

 

[HP]

Hardly. Though with your username, I'm not too surprised..

Hmmmm well I was 16 beers drunk when I wrote that but a post is a post & I will cop it sweet... The reference to science is what I would have disagreed with as there is clearly such a thing as that but I only read about every third word before drunkenly responding which I do apologise for.

The rest of what he wrote has some philosophical "truth" to it though. I won't get into philosophy here though, I dare say there's another thread just begging to be created for that old chestnut.

Note to self: Avoid forums when ****faced

& PS: I am proud of my username. The heathens of the north were a tough people who lived through hard times with pride, honour & a willingness to survive rarely seen now. If more people now lived with the same spirit as they did the world would be a much better place but instead it's filled with fat useless lazy fools hell bent on consuming everything like a plague of locusts, our ancestors would be horrified at what we've become; indeed so too would god if he existed.

 

[Strittan]

The problem was as azurmen pointed out they think stuff about me and judged me not my views or questions. I tried to explain more but someone would ask something and I had to address them which kept making me stray from the original points. Lol like someone tells me questioning Why is not important in the reason to what everyone is doing here and asking How we got here is better. I obviously want to know How as well and I don't really care if you think How is a better question to ask because this is what I think. I just wanted other views, theories, or similar questions but of course know one believed me and just thinks I'm dumb for thinking different. Again it's cool tho this is not the right people to discuss it with and is tough to address everyone's comments in type form as it takes much longer as opposed to sitting around a table and talking.

You really are impossible to have a duscussion with, aren't you? You did get answers, but no matter what people said it wasn't good enough. As I said, you never really tried to understand or read into it.

And for the 157th time, please structure your posts, and distinguish 'know' from 'no', and don't blame your phone for the errors.

 

[shmogt]

You really are impossible to have a duscussion with, aren't you? You did get answers, but no matter what people said it wasn't good enough. As I said, you never really tried to understand or read into it.

And for the 157th time, please structure your posts, and distinguish 'know' from 'no', and don't blame your phone for the errors.

I was the one asking the questions and everyone wasn't addressing what I was asking. It's impossible for me to explain clearer and I'm not gonna try anymore.

Where did I screw up know and no now?

 

[TankAss95]

Where did I screw up know and no now?

What?

Oops. Forgot. I'm not supposed to visit this thread anymore. Have mercy!

*leaves*

 

[Sam48]

Information cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

Not necessarily (Depending on your definition of info). I asked the same question when I was about 11 years old, and here's what I concluded (Keep in mind this is all theoretical). Imagine I have an indestructible metal pole that extends from the earth and out into space. At both ends of the pole it makes a 90* angle and continues for about one meter. There are also two disks, both with the alphabet stamped out in a circle around the outside of the disks at each end. So, if I'm on earth and I spin the pole, stopping on individual letters to spell something with the one meters worth of extra pole, the person who's, lets say, one light month away will instantly be able to depict my letter as I write it.

I hope that's not to confusing. (I also realize it isn't exactly on topic either, just a thought)

 

[niky]

And that's why you can't have an indestructible pole. Relativity limits the rigidity of any such instrument so that movement or vibration cannot propagate down the length of the pole faster than the speed of light.

In other words, your very long pole would flex... the movement would propagate down its length just like sound vibration travelling through a pipe.

 

[shmogt]

What?

Oops. Forgot. I'm not supposed to visit this thread anymore. Have mercy!

*leaves*

Lol someone said I used the word "know" and "no" wrong again and I'm asking where because I haven't said much recently and thought I got it all correct.

 

[dylansan]

What?

Oops. Forgot. I'm not supposed to visit this thread anymore. Have mercy!

*leaves*

I'm not a moderator. I can't stop you from posting here, and to be honest I really wish you would post here in a way that actually furthers discussion, but I haven't seen evidence of that so far. Go ahead and post here if you want, but don't be surprised when people get annoyed, as I have, when you claim to know the truth and then can't provide any evidence for it besides your own personal experiences.

And I don't appreciate your attitude, considering I'm only trying to get you to think, not force you to believe anything in particular.

 

[Crispy]

Looks like I spun off a big bash.

Anyway, for me personally, I go on the view of science. Hell, it's the only subject I have ever gotten an award for in school. I'm pursuing a career in mechanical engineering in fact. I simply wrote that post to throw something at everyone. I do personally feel that religion, language arts, math, things like that, are created by the human mind to try and figure out what we are. Some of them caught on, some didn't. Science, though created by humans, is supported by everything around us, and uses the principles we created (Mathematics mainly) to prove itself. Therefore it is a tool used by humans to try and learn more about everything around us. The thing is, science couldn't exist without math, language arts, or other principles, due to it having nothing to define it. We keep going on in circles, never ending circles.

 

[Strittan]

Where did I screw up know and no now?

See below...

The problem was as azurmen pointed out they think stuff about me and judged me not my views or questions. I tried to explain more but someone would ask something and I had to address them which kept making me stray from the original points. Lol like someone tells me questioning Why is not important in the reason to what everyone is doing here and asking How we got here is better. I obviously want to know How as well and I don't really care if you think How is a better question to ask because this is what I think. I just wanted other views, theories, or similar questions but of course know one believed me and just thinks I'm dumb for thinking different. Again it's cool tho this is not the right people to discuss it with and is tough to address everyone's comments in type form as it takes much longer as opposed to sitting around a table and talking.

No wonder you couldn't find it, it's quite difficult to read your posts since they lack structure.

 

[Famine]

Not necessarily

Yes, necessarily. That is the defining limitation of our universe - information cannot be propogated in excess of the speed of light in a vacuum.

I asked the same question when I was about 11 years old

Firstly, it's not a question, it's a definition. Secondly, you really think that at 11 you had the universe figured out better than all astrophysicists to this day?

Imagine I have an indestructible metal pole that extends from the earth and out into space. At both ends of the pole it makes a 90* angle and continues for about one meter. There are also two disks, both with the alphabet stamped out in a circle around the outside of the disks at each end. So, if I'm on earth and I spin the pole, stopping on individual letters to spell something with the one meters worth of extra pole, the person who's, lets say, one light month away will instantly be able to depict my letter as I write it.

No, they'd detect it slightly more than a month later - even if the pole was infinitely rigid (impossible), there'd be flexion in the individual atoms that make it up - there's more empty space in an atom by proportion than there is in our Solar System.

This is exactly how electricity functions. The electrons move at about 4mph along the wire, but because they're packed tightly in a wire (think of marbles packed in a drainpipe) any force put in at one end (push a new marble in) results in an almost instantaneous transmission of the force out of the other end (a marble falls out) - close to the speed of light in a vacuum, in fact. The speed is limited by the compression of empty space.


The upper limit for transmission of information in our universe is c, the speed of light in a vacuum.

 

[hampus_dh]

Am i the only one that feels Alex Colliers "theory" is way more plausible in how we came about or how our earth was created then any of the book-gods talked anout here?

He does not have a single proof but it seems like it's a million times more plausible.

 

[Strittan]

There hasn't been much discussion about Islam in here, has there?

The number of muslims has tripled since the 1970's, from around 500 milion back then, to over 1.5 billion today.

Thoughts?

 

[Dennisch]

I think it's all the same discussion. God, Allah, all the same.