A few realize this is basically what GranTurismo is and always will be. If you want this to be anything different nobody's stopping you from playing another game.
GT became what it is today because people loved the realism.
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Q: If you evaluate all these points how well does GT5 simulate racing?
A: Well if you want all of that stuff then go play one of the SimBin games.
So now we've gone from the common retort of "If you want some arcade racer with blah blah features, go buy product X" to "If you want properly simulated racing with blah blah features, go buy product Y".
The fact that we've gotten to the point that the argument for seemingly everything is now "go buy another companies product" is exactly why PD and Sony have comunicated more in the last 10 months about GT5's future than they have in the five years prior, and have made a definite effort to respond dirrectly to complaints. Where before there was hype, now there is substance, even two way comunication to an extent, even if it's still not at the level that some would want.
To some, continued discussion may be beating a dead horse, but to Sony/PD it's obviously been a tool of market research and a source of motivation to demonstrate that they are listening to constructive opinions, wishies, and/or mindless complaints, depending on individual perspective as to which is which.
Do we need to rehash the same silly is it a driving game, is it a racing game, is it a car museum, is it a rearview mirror decoration for your Yugo arguments? Probably not. But the underlying topics that often lead to the aforemention silliness are often very valid. Just because some people have to turn it into silly BS every time, untill a thread is reduced to worthless arguments about things like who's idea of the game is more correct than anothers, doesn't make the underlining debate moot. Continuing to assault such discussions by turning them to debates of purely personal opinions of things like personal notions of Kaz's vision or what GT has been or is ment to be, often making use of talking points not even really having any true bearring to the base disscussions in the process, maintaining as if said uttered opinions automatically quallify as inarguable fact, and doing so has a means to try and defeat any attempt at other's constructive criticisms amongst themselves, now thats a dead horse that gets beat waaaaaay past the point of pointless. Fact is, PD is listening, Sony is watching, debates will continue as long has people still get the feeling that they are being heard. The point of doing so is self evident in that regards.
The only GT game that really "let me down" before was GT3, which had some of the same issues, specifically, not enough content to keep me entertained as long as previous GT's.
But GT5, literally,
has nothing new I really care about.
Better graphics and physics come with a new platform, as do "premiums", these are all things that basically can't be avoided, it happens with every new system, graphics improve, and physics get better.
Being able to paint is awesome, and 10 years overdue, but they even fudged that up, RM's are great, but they existed 13 years ago, only to be removed at many players dismay for no known reason. So again, nothing new there. Online play is here, (finally) as it was with GT5P, but yet again, something that could have been in GT4.
So of the few "new" things I like, 1 is screwed up for unknown reasons and was 10 years overdue, 1 isn't new at all, just finally returned, another is not really "new" since GT5P had it, and again, should have probably been there for GT4.
The tuning "system" started out
legendary in GT1, and from I've read of realistic spec in FM3, Forza has them killed in that aspect. Why? Because PD hasn't been changing the game for some time now, it's been petty improvement over petty improvement, time and time again, the other games sustained, but it's gotten to the point where it'd ridiculous, they haven't really changed this game at all in at least 10 years, some aspects longer.
If it weren't for seasonals and updates, this game would have been done for me a long time ago, and that's not good for PD. Losing any customer is not good for PD.
Excellent post.
SP, and GT5
. I was referring to 3.
