Do you think Polyphony Digital views GTP?

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The problem is that they prioritized the wrong things that eventually took the game to the PS3 limits. Example would be B-Spec, 3D support, 60fps, course maker, the many repeated cars and other things that could have been left behind or at least toned down to give space for other things that would have made the game much more appealing. The game doesn't need better graphics or more cars.

I love Gran Turismo 5, and I see myself playing it until GT6 arrives, but I can't help to feel that there is "something" that keeps it from being the game that it was suppose to be.

Good post man, just to add my humble opinion, 60fps and course maker are great features. Of course, both need more work. We know 60fps aren't consistent and course maker needs more functions... point-to-point, more flexibility, new scenarios, etc.
 
Husky is right on point, good post
 
PDs focus is to much on "perfection". yet his idea of perfect isnt what the average gamer wants. They do need to implement things that will make the game more enjoyable to all of us. And these things havent all been adressed, and i feel like its taking PD to long to implement some of the simpler things the majority of people here have asked for.
PD have lots to do. They need to keep the game profitable by pleasing the casual gamer (in all parts of the world) AND keep the hardcore racer satisfied. They need to stay profitable to keep Sony happy. They need to do all this, while trying to remain faithful to the Vision of Gran Turismo and all those who appreciate it.

Some of us understand that PD work very hard to make their game more than a game and about their infinite battle towards perfection. It's impossible to do every thing the fans want at high quality, so some sacrifices to the product need to be made. Some fans will agree with those sacrifices and some won't. The fans of Gran Turismo on this site aren't a homogeneous mass, never mind the consumers of Gran Turismo.
 
I think they do. Just like you said, the feedback section is a good example like you said. They might when their bored :lol:
 
I think "keeping up with the Jones's" covers a majority (not all of course) of what the fans want. Now I have never played FM4 but I do lurk on ForzaPlanet. It seems if PD were to offer content similiar to that available in FM4, we would see a lot less wish list threads here.

Go for a quick lurk, do you notice a difference in atmosphere and dialogue compared to here in GTP? (Given the 16 months of GT5 versus the 6? of FM4).

Yet the same could be said for PD alone, they seem to have a few things that bind them, Sony's time line, being in line with Nissan (purely PD's making), watching what other race games do, trying to listen to the fans, and PD's own vision.

From what I've seen is that there is more people wanting PD to have diversity in cars and tracks. As well as better physics and a tire model along with a more creative freedom so racers can distinguish their cars from the hundreds of thousands that play. There are a few other things but none of these are to keep up with what NFS, T10, PG (were), Codemasters or any PC sim game is doing.

When you look at cockpits and weather you see it more of them trying to catch up with being behind the times. Same goes for the damage, but the switch from the unique license setup to leveling up instead is an obvious take away from certain other race games. That to me seems to imply that PD feel they need to mask to a small degree what others are doing.

As far as site content goes, there are so called "fanboys or diehards" that believe their beloved game could never do anything wrong. Or has always been on a linear path to greatness, sadly this isn't the case for either game. I do feel there are less wishlist in FM area, but that might be due to the game being out much less like you said. I see the wanting cars thing to be a double edged sword. FM has more popular cars and a better region ratio than GT, but with adding all the cars people want, the players hunger grows and since they add all these great cars a higher demand may occur. PD on the other hand really didn't add too much new, compared to what they ported over so it has the reverse effect but same outcome, a majority of what we played and raced in GT4, so now we hunger for more diversity and fresh cars to the series not just the game.
 
Hard for a company to change a game too much. If they get feedback within the game then they dont need forum. If they see that perhaps 5% use coursemaker and 3% use arcademode normally this means money not spend so good. But if they feel that the potential is greater than today they might continue developing this. On the other hand, if the game sells as plan then they dont feel they did something bad. Actually they might think they found a market that likes the way GT is. But hopefully they get inside game statistics that tells them where to go on and what to let go. Then this forum is nothing they use for development, but perhaps to just get here and get tips on how to setup a car better :)
 
What about endurance race saves fast forward rewind for replay cockpit and rims for standards ability to remove hud etc etc?Or did they get that from twitter?
 
TorqueHappenS08
GTP: In closing, is there anything you would like to say to the GTPlanet community?

KY: The feedback we receive from our users – the positive and the constructive feedback – really provides energy for our company and really motivates us to do more. I think if we can keep up that relationship with the community, that would be great! Lastly, thank you all for your support!

from when Jordan interviewed kazunori. pretty self explanatory.

Well. Thats a Marketing sentence.
They Sound is Bad since GT2-5 and they dont Give a .... .
The AI isn't that much better.

I am a Little Bit angry :P

And where is the community relationship when we - the Fans - wonder about Things like ...

- Are PD Reading gtplanet
- Do they lisen

They dont have a Forum...
 
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Good post man, just to add my humble opinion, 60fps and course maker are great features. Of course, both need more work. We know 60fps aren't consistent and course maker needs more functions... point-to-point, more flexibility, new scenarios, etc.

The problem with 60fps and GT5 is simply that its not constant and while at times its not intrusive at other times its a total pain.

Personally (and this is just that) I would rather have not had rain and the level of particle effects we have if it would have meant a solid 60fps. That for me in a driving title of this generation is higher on the priority list than rain, snow and thick smoke.

The course marker is great and I don't see that it would take PD that much work to expand on it, I had by this point expected to see more environments available as DLC and the range of options tweaked, I would however settle for just point to point, we know it can be done and would make the rally side of things a bit more worthwhile.



Scaff
 
The problem is that they prioritized the wrong things that eventually took the game to the PS3 limits. Example would be B-Spec, 3D support, 60fps, course maker, the many repeated cars and other things that could have been left behind or at least toned down to give space for other things that would have made the game much more appealing. The game doesn't need better graphics or more cars.

I love Gran Turismo 5, and I see myself playing it until GT6 arrives, but I can't help to feel that there is "something" that keeps it from being the game that it was suppose to be.


^ Post of the year. Thank you, kind sir, for your astute, perceptive observational skills.
 
PD should employ at least one person to visit important forums and "route" discussion between players and developers. How hard can it be?
 
PD should employ at least one person to visit important forums and "route" discussion between players and developers. How hard can it be?


:sly:



i think its harder than you think .
 
why would kaz and PD consider anything from GTplanet after the shneningans that happened?

i mean look at some people. Oh wow b spec yeah. rain yeah. more cars yeah.

later. oh no i wanted this. i didnt want rain. i wish pd this instead. blah blah. some are even questioning 60 fps. i mean what the hell? this aint pgr.


it's enough to make someone mad. No wonder kaz was kinda upset during his early twitter days at some 'fans' I doubt he would ever consider anything from gtplanet ever again whether it's members or the staff themselves.

The only person in this forum worth listening to is amar.
 
All feedback is useful, may it be positive or not.
 
why would kaz and PD consider anything from GTplanet after the shneningans that happened?

i mean look at some people. Oh wow b spec yeah. rain yeah. more cars yeah.

later. oh no i wanted this. i didnt want rain. i wish pd this instead. blah blah. some are even questioning 60 fps. i mean what the hell? this aint pgr.

I'm sure you have proof of this apparent hypocrisy of specific people, then.
 
Wouldnt it be great if GT Planet asked if they wanted a live Q&A chat with us?

Moderators would choose the questions they find interresting and hopefully we would get answers. Or if thats not possible, perhaps GTPlanet could write down like 20 most wanted answers from the community and send to PD/Kaz and we perhaps would get an answer?
 
Wow, that's not even feedback. Ignore and forget. Do not contribute to his ranting anyone. We don't want him in the forums do we?
 
why would kaz and PD consider anything from GTplanet after the shneningans that happened?

i mean look at some people. Oh wow b spec yeah. rain yeah. more cars yeah.

later. oh no i wanted this. i didnt want rain. i wish pd this instead. blah blah. some are even questioning 60 fps. i mean what the hell? this aint pgr.

What shenanigans would they be exactly?

People discussing what they like and dislike about the title? What they are happy with and disappointed by?

I would call that constructive feedback and all products need it, sycophants will not help anything develop.

I'd also love to know a little more about why you are surprised that people question 60fps. For a large number a solid frame rate is vital in a racing title and the dips that GT5 takes at times are, for me, a step too far.


it's enough to make someone mad. No wonder kaz was kinda upset during his early twitter days at some 'fans' I doubt he would ever consider anything from gtplanet ever again whether it's members or the staff themselves.
Ignoring the feedback of a pool of customers this big, regardless of what they are saying, would be a rather strange business move.

I think the issue may be more with your unhappiness that not everyone shares the same view as yourself.


The only person in this forum worth listening to is amar.
Much as I get on with amar and share many of his views on GT and FM (both positive and negative for both series) I don't agree he is the only member with anything of value to say.

One part of the forum you would do well with reviewing however is the AUP:

AUP
You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.

The staff have had to address your grammar before, please don't head down the same road you did last year, because you are out of warning.


Scaff
 
The problem is that they prioritized the wrong things that eventually took the game to the PS3 limits. Example would be B-Spec, 3D support, 60fps, course maker, the many repeated cars and other things that could have been left behind or at least toned down to give space for other things that would have made the game much more appealing. The game doesn't need better graphics or more cars.

I love Gran Turismo 5, and I see myself playing it until GT6 arrives, but I can't help to feel that there is "something" that keeps it from being the game that it was suppose to be.

Talking 'bout good feedback; someone translate this in Japanese and let's just mail them... (ah no... no known email adress for PD sadly :))
 
Yes i think they do,been saying it for a while now. Its like a free R&D department for them
 
We begged for an Aventador, and we got one. We begged for changeable wheels on Standard Cars, we got it. We begged for Spa, we got it. We begged for more RM's, we got more in the form of TCs. So I'd say yes they listen to us. :sly:👍
 
I bet their laughing at this thread...:lol:
 
TokoTurismo
Imagine THAT now. :lol:

Maybe you are Kaz...
Maybe one of the administrators is Kaz...
We may never know...
 
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