Do you think Polyphony Digital views GTP?

[1241Penguin]

I have a feeling that most who voted "Yes" did so more in hope than reality.

 

[Mac K]

I have a feeling that most who voted "Yes" did so more in hope than reality.

What would make you say that? Just curious.

 

[TankAss95]

I have a feeling that most who voted "Yes" did so more in hope than reality.

Why? I can think of reasons why people would not want Kaz to visit GT Planet. Just look at some of the unnecessary things people have moaned about and suggested.

 

[Downhill Dino]

I have a feeling that most who voted "Yes" did so more in hope than reality.

Reality:

GTP: In closing, is there anything you would like to say to the GTPlanet community?

KY: The feedback we receive from our users – the positive and the constructive feedback – really provides energy for our company and really motivates us to do more. I think if we can keep up that relationship with the community, that would be great! Lastly, thank you all for your support!


from when Jordan interviewed kazunori. pretty self explanatory.

Which you seemed to have missed.


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Why? I can think of reasons why people would not want Kaz to visit GT Planet. Just look at some of the unnecessary things people have moaned about and suggested.

Right here sir:

All feedback is useful, may it be positive or not.

Any game developer, or any developer of any product needs criticism.

 

[Slash]

I'm sure they do. I could have swore I read somewhere that they are aware of the site and watch it regularly.

 

[1241Penguin]

Reality:

Which you seemed to have missed.

Indeed I did miss that.

Any game developer, or any developer of any product needs criticism.

No, TankAss is right here. There is a lot of constructive feedback on GTP, but at the same time, there is a lot of whining from people who aren't able to realize what is practical and what isn't. Just take a look at the motorcycle for DLC thread, many of the people who agree with it think that motorcycles would be a great addition for GT5, yet they don't realize that this can cause GT6 to be pushed back, and the addition of cars to be ceased.

So yes, there is constructive feedback (found in the Feedback section) and just plain whining.

 

[Jordan]

It was made very clear to me, in multiple, kind comments by someone closely involved with Gran Turismo's development (not Kazunori), that GTPlanet is an valuable resource for them. So the answer to the OP is "yes".

 

[TankAss95]

It was made very clear to me, in multiple, kind comments by someone closely involved with Gran Turismo's development (not Kazunori), that GTPlanet is an valuable resource for them. So the answer to the OP is "yes".

GTPlanet is a great site, but in the end it is the users' themselves that cast the general response to certain topics. The majority of people on GTPlanet seem to be mature and thoughtful, but to be quite honest I was disappointed by some of the attitude that many people were having during the first 12 months of GT5's release. It's great to hear that the response of the people behind GT is positive.

 

[nitrorocks]

I've never seen Jordan post in regular threads before. Why is that?

 

[shirakawaa]

Jordan, not trying to devalue what you've been told, but be aware that being extremely accommodating toward others in business relationships, towards customers, guests, etc, is a japanese cultural thing, a sign of politeness. Sometimes (at least to the eyes of westerners) it's hilarious because a person in order to avoid saying negative things that might hurt another person's feelings will answer in the most indirect way or even lie (for good) and expect him to realize that.

Probably the most common example: when in Japan you ask a person for something and he answers "that's difficult", he really means "no".
Another common example - A: "Would you like more X ?" B: "That's a little [too]..." (= "no")
Or, for example, when you're a guest in a house (in Japan) and the owner asks you if you want to stay some more time, you're expected to politely refuse, because he doesn't really mean it.

 

[McClarenDesign]

It was made very clear to me, in multiple, kind comments by someone closely involved with Gran Turismo's development (not Kazunori), that GTPlanet is an valuable resource for them. So the answer to the OP is "yes".

Good enough for me.

 

[TankAss95]

I've never seen Jordan post in regular threads before. Why is that?

Jordan: Sometimes, truth isn't good enough, sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.

TankAss95: We'll have to seek you.

Jordan: You'll look for me. You'll condemn me, you'll set the moderators on me. But that's what has to happen.

TankAss95: Because he's the hero GTPlanet deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll ask him, because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight.

 

[TokoTurismo]

It was made very clear to me, in multiple, kind comments by someone closely involved with Gran Turismo's development (not Kazunori), that GTPlanet is an valuable resource for them. So the answer to the OP is "yes".

This gives me a good reason to vote yes. Thank you Jordan. Voting now.

GTPlanet is a great site, but in the end it is the users' themselves that cast the general response to certain topics. The majority of people on GTPlanet seem to be mature and thoughtful, but to be quite honest I was disappointed by some of the attitude that many people were having during the first 12 months of GT5's release. It's great to hear that the response of the people behind GT is positive.

I agree with this. 👍

 

[another_jakhole]

Why? I can think of reasons why people would not want Kaz to visit GT Planet. Just look at some of the unnecessary things people have moaned about and suggested.

Jordan: Sometimes, truth isn't good enough, sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.

TankAss95: We'll have to seek you.

Jordan: You'll look for me. You'll condemn me, you'll set the moderators on me. But that's what has to happen.

TankAss95: Because he's the hero GTPlanet deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll ask him, because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight.

👍👍👍👍

lol \/\/\/ It didn't seem like a script at all at first. I thought they were replies to posts.

 

[nitrorocks]

Jordan: Sometimes, truth isn't good enough, sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded.

TankAss95: We'll have to seek you.

Jordan: You'll look for me. You'll condemn me, you'll set the moderators on me. But that's what has to happen.

TankAss95: Because he's the hero GTPlanet deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll ask him, because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight.

👍

 

[ch3ng]

Reality:

Which you seemed to have missed.

Nah. Kaz talked about Community relationship etc. This was Marketing blabla.

Reality is we dont know if he or the PD staff Listen and we dont have a "relationship" with the devs.
Reality is we can't say if Avantador, Spa was added because the community Wants it or PD wanted it.

Reality is the Community complain about Sound, AI for over - far - 14 years know and they didnt listen.

Or they deleted some other features like Drag Mode....
Did the Community wanted this? I Doubt it.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'm sure you have proof of this apparent hypocrisy of specific people, then.

Of course he doesn't, rather he spouts what he wants to be real but isn't. All in a sad attempt to protect a game that does need help. With pCars coming down the pipe if they can achieve even half of what they have on the PC, games like GT and FM will have a real threat to their corner of the gamesphere.

I never understood why people set themselves up to like one game and then when others come out that are better, not try them. Why not ask for their favorite game to be better instead of proclaiming it is the best. I'd like someone to explain this to me, because it is the most confusing arrogance I've seen in a while.

 

[Jordan]

Jordan, not trying to devalue what you've been told, but be aware that being extremely accommodating toward others in business relationships, towards customers, guests, etc, is a japanese cultural thing, a sign of politeness. Sometimes (at least to the eyes of westerners) it's hilarious because a person in order to avoid saying negative things that might hurt another person's feelings will answer in the most indirect way or even lie (for good) and expect him to realize that.

Probably the most common example: when in Japan you ask a person for something and he answers "that's difficult", he really means "no".
Another common example - A: "Would you like more X ?" B: "That's a little [too]..." (= "no")
Or, for example, when you're a guest in a house (in Japan) and the owner asks you if you want to stay some more time, you're expected to politely refuse, because he doesn't really mean it.

I am aware of such cultural differences, but that doesn't really apply to this conversation or how the complement was delivered.

I think what most of you are struggling with is the question of why they aren't generally perceived to be responsive to user feedback.

 

[Cowboys965]

"Do you want to stay?"
"Yes."
"GET OUT!"

 

[The Bman]

I think they read GTP, but they don't view it often.

But I also think that Turn 10 reads GTP to see what GT fans want in a game and include it in Forza. Look at all the things we wanted in GT5 that appeared in FM4.

 

[Cowboys965]

I think it's coincidental. Porsche? And They already had a livery editor.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I think they read GTP, but they don't view it often.

But I also think that Turn 10 reads GTP to see what GT fans want in a game and include it in Forza. Look at all the things we wanted in GT5 that appeared in FM4.

I've noticed that too. There was a car I asked for, and it's in FM4. Funny right? It was that sky blue Jaguar.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I've noticed that too. There was a car I asked for, and it's in FM4. Funny right? It was that sky blue Jaguar.

I wouldn't be too concerned about that: the XKR-S is a highly sought after new Jag in general, and also one Jag would probably want to show off as much as possible in video games while it's fresh. Besides, T10 have their own DLC suggestion thread on their own forums, so there's bound to be lots of crossover.

Considering GTP is far and away the most visible online location for all things GT, it'd be silly if PD didn't look here. How often, and in what capacity, is unsure, but we do know they're very aware of us. It'd be very cool if they ever contacted Jordan for something similar to the "Forzalopnik" DLC T10 did a while ago 👍

 

[TokoTurismo]

I wouldn't be too concerned about that: the XKR-S is a highly sought after new Jag in general, and also one Jag would probably want to show off as much as possible in video games while it's fresh. Besides, T10 have their own DLC suggestion thread on their own forums, so there's bound to be lots of crossover.

Considering GTP is far and away the most visible online location for all things GT, it'd be silly if PD didn't look here. How often, and in what capacity, is unsure, but we do know they're very aware of us. It'd be very cool if they ever contacted Jordan for something similar to the "Forzalopnik" DLC T10 did a while ago 👍

Oh. Haha, guess I thought to much then. That would be awesome if they did that. That'll be exciting.

 

[Machate-man]

Has a PD representative ever contacted GTP/Jordan/Staff? E.G. have they ever come to US for feedback? It always seems we need to come to them to achieve anything.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Edit: Deleted

 

[SAVoxleitner]

Perhaps the people from PD are lurkers or something like that.

 

[Cowboys965]

Well, I've yet to see KAZUNORI_YAMUACHI

Or LOVE_THE_SKYLINE.

 

[RedPartyhat]

A lot of game companies check out the big fan forums of the games, I don't see why PD wouldn't. Just because they aren't answering to some of the updates and DLC content people want here doesn't mean they don't take a sneak-peek here and there.

 

[ch3ng]

I think they read GTP, but they don't view it often.

But I also think that Turn 10 reads GTP to see what GT fans want in a game and include it in Forza. Look at all the things we wanted in GT5 that appeared in FM4.

Well actually it is the other Way around. Except Free Roam. PD was planning it, Community - GT - asked about it . Turn10 ... well a other Studio with the help of Turn10 do it. Called "Horizon"

Maybe PD is planning to Add Free roam, but i think they should Focus on other Things. Free Roam consum alot alot od Time and Even Turn10 - which are a bigger Studio - dont so it. They added a other Studio.

83% of all gtplanet Wishes are and were already in the Forza Franchise.